Ninja Scooter
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So the Kin, windows 8 and the surface never happened?
Kotaku: Next Xbox will require online connection to start games
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So the Kin, windows 8 and the surface never happened?
Alligatorjandro
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If true I wont buy one.
phosphor112
Banned
Awww shit. Lmao. I really was hoping this wasn't true, but since it is, this is just fucking bad.
MikeE21286
Member
Silence and the negative rumor mill is hurting this thing among the core right now.
Not sure if MS cares any more, but that is what the brand was built off of. Ignorant for them to ignore that.
Not sure if MS cares any more, but that is what the brand was built off of. Ignorant for them to ignore that.
Metalmurphy
Member
Define "substantial". Because it has happened just last year.
yankeehater
Member
What happens when there is a storm and your internet is out, but your power isnt? I have had that happen to me a few times.
[Clark Gable]
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If true, looks like I'm sticking with PC all gen next gen.
Blame Stephen Totilo.
PopcornMegaphone
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Yep. I hate how the good paying customer gets screwed with stuff like this.
I'm reminded of this gif:
XtremeXpider
Member
I remember if someone posted something from kotaku, then he was bashed because "it is kotaku, it is bs". Now, Kotaku is a reliable realiable source...
For me, Kotaku is the same than weeks ago, another webpage with some info, but it is funny how a source can became "reliable" if it said something that I want to hear.
What are we, in 2005 again? They don't think that, and if they did they wouldn't be right. They've sold almost 80m 360s, not 80m copies of Halo.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
So, in addition to the leaks/rumors last year and earlier this year, there's obviously more than 3.
I just don't get why some have heard about it and others haven't.
Have you read the thread? The possible issues that people have brought up or how many people have bandwidth limits or bad internet (ie in other countries that aren't NA).
[The stuff below is aimed at everyone in the below camp]
Saying "Who doesn't have a connection" is incredibly short sighted (and that goes to anyone who is in the "Who doesn't have a connection, my internet is great" camp)
but I suppose if it doesn't effect you, it's fine. They can do whatever they want but as long as you're not effected, who cares right? Yeah...
Me too.. or at least I thought so. I constantly get the 'disconnected from battle.net' message in Starcraft 2. If I got booted 3 minutes later the game would be unplayable.
Only works if theres no competing platforms. 99% of xboxs games will also be on the PS4.
That's the one reason why I wouldn't buy a console.
Dark Octave
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Wow.
Microsoft's focus has moved to the center entertainment console above all else. Gaming is being pushed to the back on this next console. I think if they do the subscription idea (the way they are doing office 360, windows 9) they will likely make more than they currently do. The subscription idea means you would ALWAYS have to have a plan to use the console. Likewise they would subsidize the price of the console: See 199.00 vs PS4 399-450~.
Always online + subscription means they have a constant flow of money. If you don't pay for the service you have a paperweight. The service itself costs Microsoft little to maintain, so its always positive cash flow. Low price point will sell people on purchasing the new console since it is so much cheaper than the alternatives. Being integrated with Netflix/Youtube/The video store/Running all windows 8 apps, and not having to "worry" about selling services or excluding people from anything since everyone will have access due to the subscription requirement.
They could have an additional tier for game streaming, or a tie in with cable companies or something to further subsidize the price if they some how manage to get someone like comcast to accept the console as a DVR.
In the end even if they sold half as many consoles next gen, having 100% gold subscriptions would net them drastically more money than this past generation has.
Always online + subscription means they have a constant flow of money. If you don't pay for the service you have a paperweight. The service itself costs Microsoft little to maintain, so its always positive cash flow. Low price point will sell people on purchasing the new console since it is so much cheaper than the alternatives. Being integrated with Netflix/Youtube/The video store/Running all windows 8 apps, and not having to "worry" about selling services or excluding people from anything since everyone will have access due to the subscription requirement.
They could have an additional tier for game streaming, or a tie in with cable companies or something to further subsidize the price if they some how manage to get someone like comcast to accept the console as a DVR.
In the end even if they sold half as many consoles next gen, having 100% gold subscriptions would net them drastically more money than this past generation has.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
You do realize EDGE online, who nailed the PS4 stuff, also reported this months ago, right? It's not just Kotaku.
Aquamarine
Member
GAF is a huge community. I for one have often thought that Kotaku is reliable when it comes to their serious articles...like this.
Well, they did
- turn Rare to a ... sports game making team
- turn Fable to a kinect linear action game
So, why not ?
grimshawish
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Just ignore their 'eastern' coverage and their alright.
They even have the best site layout back!
googleplex
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No fucking way this is true! I'm no fan of MS, and but there is no way in Hell that they are this stupid.
Get a second home.
Voice of Reason
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Those still sell though. Something like this wouldn't.
R
Rösti
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I apparently did. This was obviously not intended. I'll change it right away. Thanks for noticing:
The real URL is https://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1366.
Mithos
Member
We can hope.
So people with crap internet or even no internet, people who have shite internet caps so don't want to connect the 720, kids who want the 720 in their bedrooms but don't have internet there etc, none of these people are going to be able to play use the 720?, i can't believe Microsoft would be that stupid or would be willing to lose out on a considerable amount of people (lets not forget that only about half of 360 owners go online).
I still feel that something has been 'lost in translation' somewhere.
I still feel that something has been 'lost in translation' somewhere.
1) A lot of people don't keep their consoles connected to the internet, either because they can't or because they don't want to.
2) It's been proven time and again, that problems do not only originate from the user's end, but the company's.
If they have a problem with their servers and as a result everyone is unable to play their singleplayer games, that's an issue.
It has happened very recently with SimCity and Diablo 3.
Penguins&PolarBears
Member
This makes me think there is an OnLive style component to the system.
It's funny how people assume the reason they're doing it is for DRM. No way would MS limit their customer base just to enforce some kind of draconian piracy protection. It's not even like piracy was a huge problem for Xbox 360.
Obviously there is server side computing going on if the machine is dependent on a server connection.
This is really exciting if true. Hoping they are really thinking big with the next Xbox and going to do something radically different and forward thinking.
People always think the market isn't ready, but they always underestimate how fast the market can change. Look at how Netflix streaming has so many more subscribers than their disc by mail service. People didn't believe that was possible 5 years ago.
It's funny how people assume the reason they're doing it is for DRM. No way would MS limit their customer base just to enforce some kind of draconian piracy protection. It's not even like piracy was a huge problem for Xbox 360.
Obviously there is server side computing going on if the machine is dependent on a server connection.
This is really exciting if true. Hoping they are really thinking big with the next Xbox and going to do something radically different and forward thinking.
People always think the market isn't ready, but they always underestimate how fast the market can change. Look at how Netflix streaming has so many more subscribers than their disc by mail service. People didn't believe that was possible 5 years ago.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
let's forget about kotaku then. how about that edge article (edge actually being a credible magazine)? how about the countless rumors we've had on several sites about this? and yes, kotaku has a somewhat shitty reputation, but sometimes they do get things right.
Dark Octave
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Would have made better sense if it bounced off of his chest and hit her in the face.Yep. I hate how the good paying customer gets screwed with stuff like this.
I'm reminded of this gif:
How about kids bedrooms and such, or locations where a connection just isn't available like when you take your 360 to a friend's house. A network outage, your Wi-Fi signal dropping, your router dying.
There are plenty of times when people aren't able to get connected, hell there's apparently 30+ million Xbox 360's that have never been online if the numbers are to be believed.
There are plenty of times when people aren't able to get connected, hell there's apparently 30+ million Xbox 360's that have never been online if the numbers are to be believed.
How about if their servers can't handle launch? Launch for every game being the launch of SimCity. Holy shit
grimshawish
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Also holy crap at the Kotaku 'image comment' thing.
XtremeXpider
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I know it, there are some rumors, I'm not saiying that it is false, I mean how a web can be "reliable" if it say what I want to hear.
But even with Edge saying things about "always online", as Kotaku said, it can be an speculation from the source, or a misundertanding. I think it is not a confirmation at all.
Thanks
This- SO much this!
Rumor or not- putting trust in Gies or Kotaku never seems like the right path to take.
Speculative as the rumor is, if this is true, my goodness. It'll be really problematic when losing connection in the middle of a session, or having trouble shooting protocols while turning on the Console.
Sigh.
Rumor or not- putting trust in Gies or Kotaku never seems like the right path to take.
Speculative as the rumor is, if this is true, my goodness. It'll be really problematic when losing connection in the middle of a session, or having trouble shooting protocols while turning on the Console.
Sigh.
Miles Quaritch
Member
What happened last year? I don't remember there being downtime for more than an hour or so. Maybe I missed it?
womfalcs3
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This isn't just Kotaku reporting this... it's several sources. Kotaku's article just adds to the fire.
shinobi602
Member
Soooo...what happens when the servers go down?
Also Microsoft better make sure its pretty clear that this is whats going to happen when they start advertising this thing because i can imagine a lot of casual gamers that don't look for gaming news on the net are going to be pretty pissed off if they buy a 720 without knowing this, i could see a pretty big backlash.
Crimson_Gold
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720 am cry?
Maybe it was your super fast PS3 downloads hogging all the bandwidth.