WrestleMania 29 |OT| RematchaMania XXVIII-2: Out with the new and in with the old!
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He'll shake the Rock's hand, Rock will tell him how great he is. Cena will be wearing his trademark smirk, then lift his foot to an angle and turn his heel on the mat.
Mr. Luchador
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That's all really good subtle heel material too. I AM THE WORLD'S MOST NICEST PERSON.
amodelmerol
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Vince: John... It's time you go heel again
Cena: But Vince, I don't want to....
Vince: IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU WANT TO!!!!!!
Officerrob
Banned
It is, but they fight that as much as possible. How many people in their 30's do you know who use the word "ca-ca"?
a Cena heel turn isn't even necessary and he'll still be the same smug character, only the chants will be reversed
Want to make Cena tolerable? Stop having everything end in cenawinslol.jpg. stop the overcoming the odds angle. He's Superman, the adults know it, the kids know it. all it does is make people suffer through a 15 minute promo about how he's a failure BUT NO MORE!
Want to make Cena tolerable? Stop having everything end in cenawinslol.jpg. stop the overcoming the odds angle. He's Superman, the adults know it, the kids know it. all it does is make people suffer through a 15 minute promo about how he's a failure BUT NO MORE!
To be honest, he couldn't pull it off.
He's just laughable bad, I wish he would just go away.
Every time I think a Heel Cena would be better, I remind myself how much I hated Cena the rapper.
gunstarhero
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On my way to MetLife for the tailgate party right now. Gonna be a LONG best day ever.
If he's the same smug character, he's going to get booed by everyone. I don't boo Cena because he's a face and cheer Punk because he's a heel, I boo Cena because he's boring, stale and annoying, I cheer Punk because he's entertaining as hell.
All that would change is Cena is actually meant to get booed. Assuming he doesn't fundamentally change. Really, he could never be a better heel then to just take his Super Cena character and turn it up to ridiculous, sarcastic levels, so that the kids hate him too.
UberTag
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Don't know if you guys caught this blurb on the evil Wrestlezone.com site or not...
Original Plans For IC & US Titles
Original Plans For IC & US Titles
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
Cena is right tho
You can't please everyone
If he acted more heelish, he'd let down the kids and soccer moms
If he stays the same, he'd let down the 30 year olds
He became too popular for his own good.
Look at The Rock's run between 2001-2003
Rock was the face of the company going against a heel Brock Lesner who was destroying everyone.
The fans turned on Rock during his match with Brock for no reason despite being the same character he always was.
Rock comes back as a heel to beat up Hogan at No Way Out then his last match with Austin and got cheers.
I blame Canada for this.
edit: It also depends where the fan turn happens. Daniel FRYIN might not even be in the spotlight if it wasn't for the ROH crowd marking out at that Raw last year.
You can't please everyone
If he acted more heelish, he'd let down the kids and soccer moms
If he stays the same, he'd let down the 30 year olds
He became too popular for his own good.
Look at The Rock's run between 2001-2003
Rock was the face of the company going against a heel Brock Lesner who was destroying everyone.
The fans turned on Rock during his match with Brock for no reason despite being the same character he always was.
Rock comes back as a heel to beat up Hogan at No Way Out then his last match with Austin and got cheers.
I blame Canada for this.
edit: It also depends where the fan turn happens. Daniel FRYIN might not even be in the spotlight if it wasn't for the ROH crowd marking out at that Raw last year.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I thought they boo'd Rock because of Hollywood
Get out. Four weeks ago, he wasn't a big Fandago fan either, yet now he's reported as being a big Fandago fan.
Dirtsheets lol.
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
here's the Brock vs. Rock match if you've never saw it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHtqOnoc2WQ
The setup for this match was amazing
They didn't even have a face to face meeting until the last Raw before the ppv. It was all built up like a UFC match where it was video packages of them training for the match. Just something WWE doesn't do anymore which is sad. Smackdown during the brand split use to have tale of the tape before big matches.
It might have been but what's the difference from Rock then and Rock now?
He only came back to take the title off Undertaker. Undertaker didn't want to lose to Brock yet and they were saving Brock/Angle for Mania.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHtqOnoc2WQ
The setup for this match was amazing
They didn't even have a face to face meeting until the last Raw before the ppv. It was all built up like a UFC match where it was video packages of them training for the match. Just something WWE doesn't do anymore which is sad. Smackdown during the brand split use to have tale of the tape before big matches.
It might have been but what's the difference from Rock then and Rock now?
He only came back to take the title off Undertaker. Undertaker didn't want to lose to Brock yet and they were saving Brock/Angle for Mania.
This would have been cool. Filled the gap left by the MITB match. I think it would help if those two titles were unified too.
Then they'd have only one belt holding jobber instead of two!
It's obviously bullshit.
Officerrob
Banned
The difference between the Rock then and now is that time has passed and he now has nostalgia on his side. The Attitude era has taken on a mythological aura of the time when all of wrestling was great, and Rock was one of the top stars during that time. Ironically, one of the reasons that era is looked back on so fondly (IMO) is because the Cena era has been so bad. Mix those two together and you have a crowd 100% in favor of Rock over Cena.
Go to a mirror, say Komedy Kane 3 times in front of it, and he shall appear.
Wuthering_Heights
Banned
You guys hoping for a Cena heel turn are fucking crazy.
You know, deep down in your heart of hearts, that tonight is going to end the same way it always does.
Super Cena overcomes the odds, clean pin, the music hits, he raises the belt, stupid grin, fade to black.
Blahblahblah.
You know, deep down in your heart of hearts, that tonight is going to end the same way it always does.
Super Cena overcomes the odds, clean pin, the music hits, he raises the belt, stupid grin, fade to black.
Blahblahblah.
It's still nice to want things, though.
You're probably right.
Damn, this would've been pretty good.
Wuthering_Heights
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Hogan is really the best example since he was at one point the most requested Make a Wish guy, he turned heel, and kept doing Make a Wish and charity stuff. The main difference being it wasn't publicized on WCW TV in self congratulatory videos a few times a month. During the height of the NWO, Hogan/Hall/Nash/Savage were still requested all the time. Vince McMahon was requested at the height of Austin vs McMahon. Austin himself was still requested after his heel turn. Rock was still requested during Hollywood Rock. HHH was requested all during the 2000s, where he was the main heel most of the time.
I think that kind of thought is actually insulting to the fans since they openly admit its fake, have their wrestlers do promotion out of character all the time, and even show the big bad heels doing the same charity/Make a Wish/Tribute to the Troops/BA* stuff on TV every week in video packages. All but the very smallest of kids get it.
The Incarnation
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Probably, that said we're the most difficult to influence with advertising. That's where the money is.
It's not the demographic buying the goods.
You can see a similar thing with the game industry, and probably most others. With making things accessible.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
I believe in myself, I believe in this heel
I believe in myself, I believe in this heel
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I believe in myself, I believe in this heel
I believe in myself, I believe in this heel
I believe in myself, I believe in this heel
I believe in myself, I believe in this heel
I believe in myself, I believe in this heel
I believe in myself, I believe in this heel
I believe in myself, I believe in this heel
I believe in myself, I believe in this heel
I believe in myself, I believe in this heel
I bought a Punk shirt. And a Daniel Bryan shirt.
And if they hadn't increased the shipping to 25 dollars (because of same lame tax excuse even though most of the time customs won't tax it) I would've bought a Damien Sandow shirt (and maybe a robe because Damien Sandow is the best ever!)
And where's my plaid cutesy AJ t-shirt anyways.
D
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Hope to see some of your pretty #faces at the end tonight~ Will be at a friend's watching, hopefully posting from ye olde mobile.
Master Thespian
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The biggest Cena fans of all.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
I will fly to New Jerse...York and rush the ring so Cena will hit me if I have to. Hitting a fan is a heel turn.
Not true. Eddie punching a fan in that ladder match was a face turn.
Jeff Albertson
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OH WRITTEN IN THE STARS A MILLION MILES AWAY!
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There's no way Cena's ever going to telegraph the heel turn in an ESPN interview, of all things. That'll be his attitude and answer to the question until the day he turns, because his eventual turn already has "shocking, out-of-nowhere" written all over it.
Think about it. How else can he answer that question? He's not going to say "Yeah, I've thought about it, it could potentially happen down the road."
Think about it. How else can he answer that question? He's not going to say "Yeah, I've thought about it, it could potentially happen down the road."
It's just bullshit these days that the mentality in regards to Wrestlemania seems to be 'we're going to get the buyrates and the ticket sales anyway so we don't need to have any big, gimmick-based matches.' God damnit - you put everything on the line for Wrestlemania. Don't save shit up for your petty PPVs.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
I will wear a Cena shirt and mutter cruel things under my breath about Post Cereal and New Balance and he will hit me, the biggest Cena fan in the world.
TheNatural
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People are just using the Cena heel thing as an excuse for change. Everything in wrestling eventually gets stale, and what's going on has been stale for years.
This is the ninth year of the Cena run at Wrestlemania, which basically ties Hulk Hogan's run from Wrestlemania 1 to 9. Then again that was a different time, there weren't 14 PPV's a year to tire up.
This is the ninth year of the Cena run at Wrestlemania, which basically ties Hulk Hogan's run from Wrestlemania 1 to 9. Then again that was a different time, there weren't 14 PPV's a year to tire up.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Because no one likes faces no matter what. If he's heel there's a chance the internet will like him. Or something
cartoon_soldier
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Yea...that's not true. People don't like one tone characters that have been the same way for 5+ years.
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