I was only speaking on your assertion your bills are paid and then you are given 53 ontop of that.
I've stated as much every bloody time. It's clear you are being obtuse on purpose. And I am done this time.
Margaret Thatcher has died
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I've stated as much every bloody time. It's clear you are being obtuse on purpose. And I am done this time.
Joel Was Right
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Is a state funeral a real possibility?
Arsenal2022
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Its a ceremonial funeral, similar to a state one, but her body will not lie in state at Westminster Hall, and she will receive a private cremation.
CHEEZMO
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frankie_baby
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Cremation? So there goes the hopes of thousands that were planning on vandalising her grave
How did you manage to grasp that nugget of complete reading miscomprehension from what I actually typed?
I'll try again in plain English.
The guys works, and claims he only receives £2700pa from his employment.
He also receives housing benefit.
His housing benefit was cut, so he rang up saying he'll have £53 per week to live on after the cut and challenged IDS to do the same.
He got investigated, turns out he likes gambling, has sky tv, with broadband and a mobile..... I then said he was lying.
See You Next Wednesday
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She was like an even eviler Ronald Reagan.
frankie_baby
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The fact she's been senile and old for a while doesn't detract from the pain she caused when she was younger and not senile
I guess what I'm getting at is, how do you prevent people from selling their own houses? Landlords couldn't acquire properties that weren't willingly sold. They didn't buy them directly from the council at a discounted rate, they brought them from private sellers at a price that 'the market' felt was perfectly fair.
I'm swamped with work at the moment so I'm probably overlooking some huge and obvious loophole or predatory acquisition or something. I'll do some more reading later on.
Only 4 PMs over the last 200 years have had a state funeral. Wellington, Palmerston, Gladstone and Churchill.
Arsenal2022
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I wouldn't be surprised if that was a factor in it. However, it does appear that Thatcher herself had a significant amount of influence over her own funeral (St Paul's rather than Westminster Abbey is by her request for example), so perhaps she wanted to avoid that circumstance.
frankie_baby
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No not usually (think Churchill was the last to get one)
ringwaldhaze
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Anyone honestly surprised by the reaction is simply ignorant of the history surrounding the subject. Whoever you vote for and whatever you think of the reaction is irrelevant. Being surprised, though, really is odd.
CyclopsRock
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It's a bit different, though. Our Navy is far smaller than it used to be, but when the new Carriers come online, it'll be a much more effective fighting force than it was in 82. Between the Type 45's and the Eurofighters in Ascension, I think the decline of the RN back then was fairly "special" (insomuch as it's not really the case, now).
Miles Quaritch
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Well, I'm certainly not as happy as some people are about her death, but neither am I particularly sorry of care about it either.
This woman destroyed large parts of the country, she ruined the rail system and made it one of the worst and overprices in Europe, handed over our utilities to private companies, she destroyed entire towns and cities during the Mining strike which was the genesis of people living off benefits which resulted in far less social mobility, she also presided over a deregulation of the financial sector and we all know what happened there.
Essentially, we're still paying for all her mistakes. Generations of families stuck of benefits, all of which can undoubtedly be traced back to the late 80's/early 90's, a terrible rail system that is both antiquated and disgustingly overpriced and a financial sector that almost brought our country to its knees.
The only thing she didn't destroy was the NHS, but worry not, good ol' Cameron has that covered. Baseless cunt that he is.
This woman destroyed large parts of the country, she ruined the rail system and made it one of the worst and overprices in Europe, handed over our utilities to private companies, she destroyed entire towns and cities during the Mining strike which was the genesis of people living off benefits which resulted in far less social mobility, she also presided over a deregulation of the financial sector and we all know what happened there.
Essentially, we're still paying for all her mistakes. Generations of families stuck of benefits, all of which can undoubtedly be traced back to the late 80's/early 90's, a terrible rail system that is both antiquated and disgustingly overpriced and a financial sector that almost brought our country to its knees.
The only thing she didn't destroy was the NHS, but worry not, good ol' Cameron has that covered. Baseless cunt that he is.
So I'm ignorant of the history, am I? I fucking lived through it all and have very vivid memories. It doesn't excuse dancing on graves.
Where were all your posts complaining about her policies when she was alive? A lot of people celebrated when she left politics. Celebrating her death is fucking ghoulish.
The Librarian
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As someone born and raised in the US who has no stake in this whatsoever (no "regional bias"), you seem to be waving away the criticisms of those who don't like her and attributing that to "regional bias." From what I've read in this thread and elsewhere, if she ravaged communities as much as she did (despite how necessary these actions were), if she didn't supply some level of means to help these communities get back on their feet, she deserves some amount of hatred.
So how is this a controversial perception that risks getting someone banned? I'm not understanding why everyone is so scared to talk about her policies...
It's because they want to say some sexist shit that's irrelevant to her politics, isn't it
Miles Quaritch
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Living under a rock? People have been condemning her policies for years. It's impossible to have the missed the various complaints levelled against her and her policies.
Arrowgigantic
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There are plenty of people in the U.S. who have the same (lack of) regard for Reagan as Britons do for Thatcher. The actual difference is that the people who like Reagan go apeshit for him, while Thatcher fans seem somewhat more reserved and realistic.
Nothing wrong with celebrating a person's death. Plenty of people deserve to die.
What is interesting I think is to see how many here celebrating Thatcher's death were complaining of people celebrating the death of chavez or bin laden or saddam etc... Plenty, probably.
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EDIT And it isn't it's the lowest amount of JSA you can get (under 25 no dependants)
Arsenal2022
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It's because of the sheer hatred they have of her, the language they would have to use to describe her would get them banned. It's nothing to do with sexism, its just if they didn't keep their emotions in check, what they would say would seem grossly offensive.
Its easy to underestimate how much hate Thatcher does receive, and justifiably so in some senses.
You can't really, I bet a lot sold after the boom, took massive profit, then went back to renting.
Her politics were objectionable, but she was a bold and commanding leader, I have some respect for her purely based on those things. I can't say I think this is some sort of dark occasion, I won't be taking to the streets hammering bin lids or anything. I might finally watch The Iron Lady though.
Kinky John
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Good.
What are you talking about?
Argentinians seem to be happy about the news.
http://www.clarin.com/mundo/Murio-Margaret-Thatcher_0_897510394.html
http://www.clarin.com/mundo/Murio-Margaret-Thatcher_0_897510394.html
They might dare to have another go now she's gone..
You missed my point. I'm totally aware of how Thatcher is generally viewed by Joe Public in the UK, and how a lot of her policies have been widely condemned. But she's been inactive and ineffective for many, many years now. Her death doesn't change anything. It's not like a current dictator has just been deposed.
Don't cry for her, Argentina.
OverBlood 3
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Hahaha I love Kinky John "The audience are like ginger in my hands"
ringwaldhaze
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But her death just brings the subject into the public consciousness again. If you'd specifically asked Joe Public what he thought of Thatcher on Sunday he would have said the same thing.
Miles Quaritch
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You can't. I know a couple of people (friends of my late parents) who bought cheap council homes in the 80's/early 90's and are now making a killing by renting them back to councils. They are eagerly awaiting the next big sell off. It's an incredible money maker.
Another failure of Maggie's, soon to made much, much worse by the baseless cunt PM we have now.
It also can't help that british media seems to be glorifying her, when she was a really awful person.
EdibleExplosives
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Rest in peace Market Thatcher.
Miles Quaritch
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thezerofire
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what is going on with that font?
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