Margaret Thatcher has died

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Blog excerpt going around that simply nails it:

You didn't see the BBC news channel. They just had an interview with former President de Klerk, the man who engineered the end to apartheid.

He stated what a good friend she was to him & to South Africa. She understood the complexity that the country faced, while always reminding him how opposed she was to apartheid

So the idiots in here trying to imply she was racist shows how little alot of you knew what she stood for.
 
A friend shared this with me:

Your celebrations at Margaret Thatcher's death are misplaced, says David Stubbs, for "Thatcherism never died, it was never truly even un-elected"

[...]

What needs addressing as a matter of absolute urgency right now, however, is that Thatcher 's legacy is one of gross, almost comically staggering inequality. We are not all in this together.

http://thequietus.com/articles/11886-margaret-thatcher-obituary

The income inequality increased in all developed countries, even in Sweden (more than in UK or US actually, I think)which never went the Thatcher route.

http://www.oecd.org/sweden/49564868.pdf

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/03/income-inequality-oecd-report-rising_n_857057.html
 
I think I found kurtrussel's facebook

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I'm referring to the string of responses at the beginning that had people saying they would get banned if they posted what they thought of her. It seemed to still be drawing questions near this end of the thread.





I asked what was so taboo and bannable about expressing a political opinion on GAF. Surely, we've had unkind words for politicians here before. It's not even like Thatcher was on the political side that GAF tends to align with. GAF also doesn't ban for language unless you're personally attacking or harassing another member. The admin even endorses the word "cunt". How much worse can their rant be? The response has been 'People just hate her so much', which doesn't answer the question. The dots connect themselves, but I'm still waiting on responses.

No they don't. You're moving the dots around so that when you do join them together they say

'I AM A SEXIST PRICK'

and you can feel smart.
 
GAF: The place where it's okay to dance on someone's grave, but not okay to make a light hearted remark based on a tired stereotype

I've added your previous posts to mine at the head of this page, to prove that an impression of you can be built from much more than 'a light hearted' (offensive) remark about a place and its people.

Your post also takes no account for Thatcher's actual actions which contributed to the widespread distaste she's now receiving, which sums you up.

Ignorant. Completely fucking ignorant.
 
GAF: The place where it's okay to dance on someone's grave, but not okay to make a light hearted remark based on a tired stereotype

I wasn't dancing on anyone's grave actually and trust you to play the "look see, look at what they are doing" card.

I'm done, she's deceased, I won't be celebrating but I certainly feel no sympathy either. Respect and goodwill is earned, not demanded.
 
GAF: The place where it's okay to dance on someone's grave, but not okay to make a light hearted remark based on a tired stereotype

You're a ignorant knobend, as proved with the Hillsborough remarks you made in The S*n thread.

With ignorance, you can go one of three ways

1) You try and learn, and admit your lack of knowledge
2) You carry on in blissful ignorance
3) You act like you know and spout bullshit, and expect people to take your opinion seriously


You fall resolutely into category 3. Do one.
 
"Today is a good day, good riddance. Rot in Hell wench. You will not be missed and may the world remember ye for the monster ye were."

one of me best mates on thatcher's death. I share similar sentiments.
 
I've added your previous posts to mine at the head of this page, to prove that an impression of you can be built from much more than 'a light hearted' (offensive) remark about a place and its people.

If you're more offended by a throw-away comment that is nothing more than a repeat of a stereotype that's regularly appeared in Viz, on popular observational comedy programs and probably in a gazillion and one other places than by the multitude of "I'm glad she's dead" posts in this thread, then your priorities are seriously fucked.

You're a ignorant knobend, as proved with the Hillsborough remarks you made in The S*n thread.

Fancy a debate? Pro tip: Last time I checked, debating is the way to go on GAF. Mindless insults, the like of which you've chosen to employ above, are effectively a one way ban-ticket.
 
Fancy a debate? Pro tip: Last time I checked, debating is the way to go on GAF. Mindless insults, the like of which you've chosen to employ above, are effectively a one way ban-ticket.

So be it. You mindlessly propogated lies which have been disproven, first by witness accounts and plain logic, and too many years later in the court of law. There's no room for debate there.
 
Fancy a debate? Pro tip: Last time I checked, debating is the way to go on GAF. Mindless insults, the like of which you've chosen to employ above, are effectively a one way ban-ticket.

Mindless insults are a one way ticket to a ban, you say?

What does that entail exactly? Permission to walk into a Primark and pick the shellsuit of his choice? The right to steal any car stereo he chooses?

Fucking good.
 
If you're more offended by a throw-away comment that is nothing more than a repeat of a stereotype that's regularly appeared in Viz, on popular observational comedy programs and probably in a gazillion and one other places than by the multitude of "I'm glad she's dead" posts in this thread, then your priorities are seriously fucked.

2 - Whilst the Liverpool fans certainly WERE NOT the catalyst of the disaster, you can hardly say they were entirely blameless.

Pro tip: never enter a twenty mile radius of Liverpool with that opinion, lest you get stoned to death.
 
There's apparently a Conga line on the go in George Square, Glasgow just now.

Council response to social media comments about Baroness Thatcher and George Square
In response to comments on social media sites suggesting people are planning to hold a party in George Square following the death of Baroness Thatcher, Glasgow City Council has issued the following statement.
Regardless of whether or not it's appropriate to have a party to celebrate someone dying, this event was organised without involvement or consent from the council and we have safety concerns for anyone attending.

Organisers of legitimate events must get permission to use the square. They must also satisfy the council that they will take safety precautions such as providing first aiders, sufficient public toilets and stewards, as well as obtaining public liability insurance.

We urge people to stay away.
 
If you're more offended by a throw-away comment that is nothing more than a repeat of a stereotype that's regularly appeared in Viz, on popular observational comedy programs and probably in a gazillion and one other places than by the multitude of "I'm glad she's dead" posts in this thread, then your priorities are seriously fucked.



Fancy a debate? Pro tip: Last time I checked, debating is the way to go on GAF. Mindless insults, the like of which you've chosen to employ above, are effectively a one way ban-ticket.

Debate what?

You are factually incorrect

It would be like debating the existence of socks
 
This just reminds me again how little Americans are taught about foreign governments. I don't know anything about British politics and have only heard the name of Thatcher in passing. Yet people here keep name dropping Reagan. :P

I don't know how I should feel about this. Probably indifference?
 
This just reminds me again how little Americans are taught about foreign governments. I don't know anything about British politics and have only heard the name of Thatcher in passing. Yet people here keep name dropping Reagan. :P

I don't know how I should feel about this. Probably indifference?

thatcher was more or less girl reagan
 
This just reminds me again how little Americans are taught about foreign governments. I don't know anything about British politics and have only heard the name of Thatcher in passing. Yet people here keep name dropping Reagan. :P

I don't know how I should feel about this. Probably indifference?

Well, on the international stage she was significant in ending the Cold War. Domestically she helped build Britain into a financial powerhouse, at the expense of many, many people in industry.
 
The lie that Liverpool fans were responsible for the Hillsborough disaster. You'd know that if you were in any way interested in the debate that you were talking about. Its not a debate if you're unwilling to listen to the facts.

I explicitly said that I believe the Liverpool fans WERE NOT reponsible. Repost my quote and you'll see that's what I said. What I did say is that I believe some of their subsequent actions hindered rescue attempts after the initial disaster. I don't think that's a lie and was one of the key motivators towards the all-seater and, more recently, the FSA safer standing initiative.
 
This just reminds me again how little Americans are taught about foreign governments. I don't know anything about British politics and have only heard the name of Thatcher in passing. Yet people here keep name dropping Reagan. :P
?

That's what college is for. You don't waste valuable minutes of high school teaching 1980's British politics.

Hell, the American/World history classes I took could barely get you to modern times (the past 30 years). They had to cram it all in the waning days of the class.
 
People have been banned for far, far less than expressing the amount of hate she gets from certain areas.

I've honestly never seen it. If it's not directed at another poster, all kinds of vitriol tends to fly. And it's not like it's not substantiated by facts. I'm genuinely curious of why there are eggshells here.

The dots don't connect themselves, otherwise a vocal majority would be aware of just what the fuck you're referring to. What's actually happened is you've connected the dots yourself in a bespoke fashion that leans towards a fallacy you've created, rather than the extremely valid reasons people have given.

The hate Thatcher inspires within reasoned, law abiding citizens with a sound moral compass should demonstrate the scale of hurt she produced, and tell you that this goes way above gender.

And if the reasoned hateful response is possible, why are people holding back on it here? I've honestly not seen any kind of ban on someone expressing political opinion as long as it's not racist/sexist/insulting a poster directly.

If I'm wrong, I'll back down on my assumption, but I still haven't seen what else it could be.

They just mean they want to do a huge expletive ridden rant, its fairly clear and obvious

Again, I've never seen that get banned on its face if it's not directed at another poster or just really dumb/hateful in some way (and there seems to be plenty to back up their rant here)

...where has anyone brought sexism into this thread (except yourself, of course)? You're projecting. I don't know enough curse words to describe my hate for the woman. but I certainly don't hate her because she is one. She would've done the same shit as a man.

Oh, and thanks for calling me a sexist, that's really made my day, that has. >:(

I dont think I saw you among the opening posts of people saying they'd get banned, so I wasn't really referring to you, I don't think. But I apologize for it if it's making you feel bad. Maybe I should reel the rhetoric back a bit, but I'm still wondering what could have been so bad that it couldn't be said without surely getting banned.


Eh? Not seen anything of the sort here. I imagine there's a lot here who don't want to be banned for saying very harsh words over someone who gained huge notoriety here and hasn't even been dead for a day.

Again, I don't see how making mean comments about a politician's rule is so controversial, even if they died. It's very odd for so many people to fear the ban hammer over it.

It's because GAF is sometimes sensitive to bashing the dead, not because they're holding back sexist remarks.

Perhaps, but many seem to be in agreement that her policies were controversial, at best. Again, I've never really seen someone banned over reasoned political views as long as they weren't outright offensive. Even dead people's.

CHEEZMO™;53131569 said:
Stop talking about things that aren't happening.

Feel free to ignore me, I'll indulge you with the same.
 
Jesus it's all over the local news too (I live in Lincolnshire, where Thatcher was from). Bored of hearing about her.
 
Thatcher regarded Mandela as a terrorist.

By definition, he was a terrorist.

He signed off on a bombing in Pretoria which killed 19 people and injuring hundreds more.

It goes back to the definition of what is a terrorist, what is a freedom fighter. Wouldn't Thatcher be guilty of hypocrisy if she called the ANC freedom fighters & the IRA terrorists?

Personally, while I think Mandela was courageous for standing up for his beliefs, he didn't hold a candle to the courage & beliefs held by Steve Biko
 
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