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Vita PSN Game & Service Thread | May 2013 | Lovecraftian Wasteland
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No thanks, I'd prefer not to buy Legends of War.
I had my launch Vita stolen awhile back and at the time I really had not planned another purchase for atleast another yeat/ year and a half. What ended up pushing me over the edge was all of the indie game announcements. I get more than enough of the "AAA" experience on PS3 that it does not need to be the main experience I get from the Vita.
Personally I feel like indies try allot more new things out then the big pubs, and devs so im usually always interested in checking out what they do. It helps that allot of them are good/great games. I would love soms open world games on Vita, but ill be perfectly happy if the system becomes primarily a home for niche japanese games and indies. The PS4 will take care of whatever the Vita lacks imo.
CaptainTiptop
Member
Dang, I wish I could take screenshots of UMvC3. It looks so damn great.
In fact, most fighters besides MK look great on Vita. Need to check out Blazblue/wait for EU PS+ to copy NA PS+.
In fact, most fighters besides MK look great on Vita. Need to check out Blazblue/wait for EU PS+ to copy NA PS+.
Sony expects to ship 5M PSP+PSV from April to March.
Don't expect Gran Turismo or anything else not announced yet, apart from multiplatform indie games.
Sony can give me all the indie announcements they can get - just wish they would mix it in with announcements of bigger games. The problem is right now it's only indie announcements.
Yeah I really hope they announce a vita version. I could see that happening, but I could just as easily see it NOT happening.
Yeah I really hope they announce a vita version. I could see that happening, but I could just as easily see it NOT happening.
Their new tactic does appear to be 'underestimate, then raise later' though. Think they realized constantly lowering estimates every quarter was bad press.
Wait. So you think Sony themselves won't make games for it until it sells better?
Well, not only indie games - they announced Epic Mickey 2, Invizimals, Jak & Daxter Collection. As far as big games like Uncharted, Killzone or Assassin's Creed, Sony has historically only announced them at major gaming events like E3 and Gamescom.
It is important to keep in mind that Sony (SCEA) especially only really announces big titles at events like E3, and the VGAs so if they are going to do so then it should be in a couple weeks.
If the Vita gets stuck in a corner and they ignore it then sadly we will have our answer on that front. Indies will ensure my Vita stays with me though, games like Terraria, Spelunky, and Hotline will get a solid amount of playtime out of me.
So what you're telling us is that because they're expecting to only sell 5 million Vita systems, they've basically got nothing planned.
Great .-.
Fixed.
IIRC they also have Sly Collection coming. I believe Sony knows they need software. That's why I fully expect 2 brand new titles revealed at E3 with the hopes of pushing Vita.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say GT Vita could be likely... the second game is a mystery...
End all be all, if sony wants to sell vitas, they gotta bring the games... a price cut isn't enough, but it will solidify the deal
The second game is another uncharted game, wouldn't be a bad thing...
or whatever bend is working on!
Reluctant-Hero
Member
Are we already forgetting Killzone Mercenary and Tearaway? I think those will be the "big" first party releases this fall.
Does Jak & Daxter really have a set release on June 11th? That's what Amaxon is showing.
Does Jak & Daxter really have a set release on June 11th? That's what Amaxon is showing.
While this is true, they've also announced several bigger games (bigger than something like Invizimals, which is really only big in Spain) outside of big conferences or events. I can't remember specifics right now but I know Killzone 3 was one. It definitely happens. I just wish we would get some big announcements of new Vita games before E3, especially since Vita is likely to get a little pushed under the rug by PS4 at this year's E3.
I know you're a little bitter about the lack of game announcements, and that's fine because I don't like it either, but lets be realistic. They obviously will continue to make games for it. They continued to make western PSP games when it was doing terribly in the west. And I know it was still doing better than the Vita is now, but the PS2 did a lot better than PS3, yet PS3 gets even more Sony support than PS2. It's not only about the sales when you're talking about first party development.
Hey! a bit off topic but im working on my Gameroom so any ideas to spice it up would be appreciated 
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=57253984&postcount=1190
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=57253984&postcount=1190
ThatStupidLion
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Hey! a bit off topic but im working on my Gameroom so any ideas to spice it up would be appreciated
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=57253984&postcount=1190
remove photo of you and your significant other and I think you're good to go!
but really - get some nice framed gaming artwork up on those walls.
Except it's pretty obvious that Sony prioritizes home console development over handheld development. We wouldn't have the huge disparity in lineups on PS3 and Vita this year if it wasn't the case.
YouEnjoyMySelf
Banned
Agreed. Looks good but doesn't really say "game room". Definitely some art/posters on the walls. Maybe a shelf with some gaming memorabilia?
corrosivefrost
Member
Media shelf with games and guides?
They do and it's probably understandable for them to do that with their demographic [although I worry they are confusing economy problems with interest due to various things], especially given this is the year the PS4 launches. But no way will we not have the most amazing handheld library ever by the time the systems done. It's like not even 1/3 of the way there yet. Don't believe the lies. It has been the second best selling platform for a while now, okay Japan likes their handhelds more, but they also like 3DS, and most have one already. Knowing how hard it is to convince 3DS users to buy another handheld and the way iOS made people play games portably, it's not unreasonable to expect considerable growth imo. Especially with a decent advertising budget. Really hoping Vita goes hand in hand with PS4.
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btw dark arisen is pretty fun
It's only been #2 in Japan, and the PSP has shown that success in that region means little when Sony is fine in allowing those games to rot as JP-only .
CaptainTiptop
Member
Tearaway is super cheap on ShopTo. Hope they get the Special Delivery pack. I need more LBP costumes all the time.
ThatStupidLion
Member
man SO hyped for that game.
wonder if bonuses will come with digital pre-orders.
not a fan of that finger though on the box art...makes me think they are referring to the finger being a "second" character... and will play a major role. have heard though that LBPvita implements the touch controls really well, so i'm expecting these controls to be more welcome than for instance in uncharted.
wonder if bonuses will come with digital pre-orders.
not a fan of that finger though on the box art...makes me think they are referring to the finger being a "second" character... and will play a major role. have heard though that LBPvita implements the touch controls really well, so i'm expecting these controls to be more welcome than for instance in uncharted.
But only Japan has had the price cut so far, and they've been pretty western focused to me, I remember people suggesting they may start working on Japan again but I don't think so, seems futile mostly. Unless Nintendo drops the ball by switching too much focus to Wii U.
Western PSP users all pirated, come on, they'll make more of an effort!
I'd argue that Japan should be the one Sony pours money into Vita since PS4 likely won't be doing much business there. They bought 50 million DS and PSPs last gen. The problem is that Sony's done fuck all to build their IPs in that region, and don't seem interested in buying the third party games needed.
What's that about a rideable pig!! Mentioned in that second Tearaway picture above.
Also the LBP costumes look pretty fantastic, haha, might pre-order it for that, usually I don't care about the costumes really and don't even pre-order too often. Too cute though.
Japan is pretty small though and competition with the 3DS is so high, despite them loving their handhelds...There is potential for a lot more world-wide imo but yeah that's not really safe.
Seems they clearly intended to start off with western support with the Vita anyway though, given the launch titles and main game focus.
Maybe they also know they can't really compete with people who already own a 3ds as well and are giving people time to enjoy it? As each year passes I only see Vita comparing stronger with the 3DS unless Nintendo is really ontop of their game for the whole cycle (...) or Sony fumbles the Vita fast and strong, which I have faith they won't.
They do seem hesitant to invest with the Vita again recently, totally agree. I can't blame them, but I'm hopeful they'll show stronger support when things are more certain. Sucks that it seems that will take a while with rumours of e3 being pretty uneventful for Vita in terms of new stuff :/
Also the LBP costumes look pretty fantastic, haha, might pre-order it for that, usually I don't care about the costumes really and don't even pre-order too often. Too cute though.
Japan is pretty small though and competition with the 3DS is so high, despite them loving their handhelds...There is potential for a lot more world-wide imo but yeah that's not really safe.
Seems they clearly intended to start off with western support with the Vita anyway though, given the launch titles and main game focus.
Maybe they also know they can't really compete with people who already own a 3ds as well and are giving people time to enjoy it? As each year passes I only see Vita comparing stronger with the 3DS unless Nintendo is really ontop of their game for the whole cycle (...) or Sony fumbles the Vita fast and strong, which I have faith they won't.
They do seem hesitant to invest with the Vita again recently, totally agree. I can't blame them, but I'm hopeful they'll show stronger support when things are more certain. Sucks that it seems that will take a while with rumours of e3 being pretty uneventful for Vita in terms of new stuff :/
I would, but Farming Simulator isn't out yet in the US
Schobeleth
Member
It really is insanely dumb now small things like that still haven't been fixed.
Hey, want to change your avatar?
Oh, you don't have a PS3? TOO BAD
But.. I want to have a unique avatar.
Sorry, we just can't figure it out. It's too hard!
I really wish I could change it from the Vita, I usually do all my gaming on my Vita these days so I wish it was a one stop device for all the PSN settings/features, but it's not. Do you guys think it's the ancient PS3 holding it behind it terms of connectivity (because they can't figure out how to have them communicate fully) ?
Hey, want to change your avatar?
Oh, you don't have a PS3? TOO BAD
But.. I want to have a unique avatar.
Sorry, we just can't figure it out. It's too hard!
I really wish I could change it from the Vita, I usually do all my gaming on my Vita these days so I wish it was a one stop device for all the PSN settings/features, but it's not. Do you guys think it's the ancient PS3 holding it behind it terms of connectivity (because they can't figure out how to have them communicate fully) ?
Honestly I'm still angry about how many PSP and PSone games require transfer from PS3 to work. SCEA hasn't added any more onto the Vita store in ages.
Things are not going to get better. Retailers are not going to continue stocking Vita, and third parties aren't going to suddenly start making a tonne of games. Betting on the west was incredibly foolish, especially given the most successful western IPs on PSP still aren't on Vita.
April EU Playstation Store charts
Guacamelee! was in first place for PSN games. The vita version has nearly 4 times the ratings.
Edit: Oh, there's a thread, lol.
Guacamelee! was in first place for PSN games. The vita version has nearly 4 times the ratings.
Edit: Oh, there's a thread, lol.
The Tearaway Facebook page.
That's all the more reason to give them a chance to catch up over the next year or two, and people have been saying that about retailers since it first came out! Ridiculous, Vitas are tiny, there aren't even that many games and not storing Vita will make people think your store is behind the times. Hell in Japan it seems they'd be more likely to remove big Wii U space or shelf it with the Wii.
West made more sense than Japan to me. iOS made people bored of gaming on the console. Worldwide market access, 3DS dom in japan with its year lead.
Price goes down in west, world buys it, third parties jump on board and things get better. Seems like a logical path and no one can tell without the research how much a better price would tip things. Sony would have done that research. They're not going to give up on it, it being their only existing stamp on the dedicated handheld market and all their research to make an incredibly capable device. It also affects other parts of their company, even the home platforms so pulling it makes absolutely no sense to me. Opportunity cost lol. How about the actual cost of what you spent and threw away because you didn't support it enough.
I wish Amazon uk would hurry up and make Tearaway available for pre-order. Yes, i'm that excited to buy this game. I rarely pre-order games but i'm looking forward to it and i'm interested in the soundtrack (knowing Media molecule, it should be a great soundtrack). I also pre-ordered Puppeteer and Rayman Legends. Got to support the platform games 
Schobeleth
Member
Yeah it's weird, I think they're trying to avoid putting more games out that have those CFW exploits but at the same time there are lots of games you just can't get unless you have a PS3. It is dumb.
I wanted Suikoden 1 before on my Vita but I didn't feel like buying it on PS3 and transferring it - eventually I caved and went through the trouble but what if someone wants to play said game and they don't have a PS3 to transfer it from? They're screwed.
Instead they're putting "import games" onto the Vita PSN which makes EVEN LESS SENSE because they're COMPLETELY IN JAPANESE .... seriously wtf is going on at SCEA?
In regards to the Vita's situation atm, Sony REALLY needs to cut the price on the damn thing, and on the memory. That's easily the number one gripe people have with the system, I think if the entry price is more approachable people will actually look at the games, because there are lots of them. I'm just so tired of the stigma that it has no games :\
Indies are far more willing than AAA games to go down the complexity route. Something like AI War gives lengthy, epic matches. And then there's the king of complexity that is Dwarf Fortress. Or just crazy stuff like Coniclysm. It's all a matter of what you choose to play and how much fun the various games are. The prejudice that all indie games are just artsy stuff or simple platformers is extremely wrong though of course those are the easiest to advertise to a mainstream audience. The complex indie games are niche, as complex games are wont to be, and often not particularly pretty. Sturgeon's law applies, of course.
Retailers can, and will convert the little shelf space devoted to Vita towards 3DS, PS3, PS4, 360, etc.
If there's any market that has been enamored with mobile game to the detriment of traditional handhelds it's the west. Japan has had pretty complex phone games for years and that never hurt the PSP, and DS. I don't think people are getting tired of iOS casual gaming either, or else things like Puzzle & Dragons wouldn't be making millions. I also feel it's foolish to think the 3DS owns a monopoly over the Japanese handheld space. The DS was a stronger performer and the PSP still sold 20 million units to that platform's 30 million in the region.
A price cut will only work if there's software to continue momentum. Sony's not going to suddenly get Activision, Take2, Bethesda, EA, and more to make Vita games when they're already abandoning the platform.
Those PSone Imports are going onto the Vita store because they're new releases in North America, and the publisher is pushing them to be on there. Most publishers have forgotten about the PSP/PSone Classics they put up, and so they won't pester SCEA to put them on the Vita store. Third parties shouldn't have to bug Sony to get that done. SCEA should be testing games for compatibility, and putting them up as soon as they're found out to be compatible. We have a bunch of games that are compatible with Vita but aren't on the Vita store. It's not like this in Japan, or Europe. It's solely an SCEA problem.
Didn't realise it was that strong but how much of that was because of piracy support, ultimate emulator/pre-smartphones, MH etc...
Price cut will have some software at the very least, killzone and tearaway. Cod was a joke, killzone isn't the best brand franchise, but the vita is an fps machine without an fps. Cod had a better chance but it was quite early and we also know how it went and likely why. Let's not rule them out yet. We may already know about Killzone but I bet they want to go after more than just people casually aware the vita exists, so its release should have a lot more effect than its announcement. Although, GTAV :/
About retailers, people have been saying that for ages, has it been happening? Did we see signs of it last year with a significant number shops who were initially stocking it and then later not? Who is to say they wouldn't stock it later when Sony make announcements for new titles and they get pre-order phone calls as well. It sounds more like a scare tactic then something to be actually concerned about after a year of seeing nothing, while people were saying vita is going to disappear from stores any day now. I know it doesn't have the best stockage or exposure already but it's not something to worry about independent- it relies on games, price and marketing more than anything and should be flexible.