Well, as long as you don't bring in about ~90-95% of all multiplats into the "looks as good or better." That means, the majority of games look/run better on 360.
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Well, as long as you don't bring in about ~90-95% of all multiplats into the "looks as good or better." That means, the majority of games look/run better on 360.
That or Vgleaks has failed to get new info on Durango.
They still have 3 days to go.
I'm just excited. That is all.
MSFT's silence will finally be answered.
China Dont Care
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How about we all sleep for 72 hours.
iceatcs
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I wish I can do that but I just saw the leak of 16 cores or 2TF etc. Not that easy.
pharmboy044
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Sony owns Rathet and Clank, they would never let their competition use that in their marketing.
It would be more like,
Conkers Bad Fur Day 2, from the creators of Fuse.....yeeaaah.
Phonomezer
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Will we finally get that holographic projector tho?
something fishy
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Not just vgleaks, but anyone.
No one has posted a leak the size of the original leak that all the sites got.
60 minutes. It's on TV, so not longer.
and again who are this "multiple sources"...devs? (i dont think so) or other pseudo hackers? ( like i said...supermtw etv etc)
i dont thin that gaming journalism is this serious to call "source" something that we really need to take with 100% if credibility
i mean ...vgleaks base their article on pastebin too....
and other sites do the same...so
i repeat..ur theory is good .....
but isnt the only possible..so dont act like if it is
specialguy
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Huh? It actually seemed conventional wisdom was the reverse. Most people figured PS3 was more powerful, but 360 managed to put out similar looking games anyway (most would attribute it to easier development)
Myself I've given up trying to decided which is more powerful. They are about as literally close to exactly equal as two consoles with vastly different architectures can possibly be imo. The argument will always go 360 had better multiplats, PS3 better looking exclusives (although I personally think this is overblown, it is what most people think)
Anyways, Cell gave PS3 some theoretical number crunching edge over 360. Didn't always show in games.
The way I see it TBH is the only people who post most of this information the pastebin are the type of people who dont actually have anything. If they did have something why not leak it to some place that will give the source itself more credence.
Hell why not actually leak the real document not just text.
Hell why not actually leak the real document not just text.
To be fair, I think you can say things that are true. Bungie is using Halo in their promotion of destiny even though that's MS' ip.
coz usually devs leak trough pastebin...coz they could lose their jobs
all the others (bloggers,hackers,lier) use sites...to become FAMOUSSSSS
The Living Tribunal
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Regarding specs..
I have come to peace with the supposed Durango-specs. Anything above that is just a plus (that is if there is a change in these specs).
The thing is, services/extra functionality does more to help to expand the market/biz than extra flops.
It seems that MS has positioned themselves better in this area than Sony...
But yeah, extra service/functionality will do more for sales than extra flops..
I have come to peace with the supposed Durango-specs. Anything above that is just a plus (that is if there is a change in these specs).
The thing is, services/extra functionality does more to help to expand the market/biz than extra flops.
It seems that MS has positioned themselves better in this area than Sony...
But yeah, extra service/functionality will do more for sales than extra flops..
Major Nelson just posted on Pastebin recently.
Doesn't mean anything... But still... lol
You have 0 chance of losing your job if you sanatise your documents before posting them.
Theres 0 evidence devs use pastebin.
nelsonroyale
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Definitely not every game
Oh, come on. Untold Legends looks better than any 360 exclusive!
Really, the difference in actual specs this gen was marginal. Funny that PS3 seems to be actually getting some of the better ports these days. If there is a marginal difference it has taken some devs 7 years.
i dont think devs have any interest to leak console specs....any freaking interest ...and when they do is to explain something or to fix another false leak...(at least from what i seen in the past)
friends of/hackers/bloggers etc etc...have it
and anywya theres 0 evidence that edge vgleaks ecc ecc used devs sources
So your saying that devs dont use pastebin to leak information.
Because your argument is a bit confusing.
Yes theres no evidence that vgleaks uses devs, nor eurogamer who said the samething, nor the other websites that said the same thing.
But seriously, to trust pastebin, which is just a dumping ground for shared code usually as a reliable source? thats nuts.
metareferential
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Honest question:
20 cu's, 64esram, 12 ram
Which one of these sounds real to you? Or are they all a Tale From the Ass?
Now I know this looks like something you've not seen on the leaked documents and Beta does = Final Hardware...
Now think carefully and choose wisely.
They all dont look plausible, any of them requires a major change to the APU.
I'll go with 20 CU's, please.
No, the spec-difference wasn't marginal but how they turned out to produce graphics. This happens if you only compare systems part vs. part, compare the numbers and say "winner!".
I guess Sony and IBM have both improved compilers and dev-environment over last years so that by now mutliplats look sometimes better on ps3 than on 360.
Now... Do we have documented papers from the actual Beta Devkits?
Pastebin is host to porn links and all kinds of other ridiculous stuff you wouldn't believe. Videogame rumors is just 5% of it.
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Lol, reminds me of the one I did several years ago for Forza 3 on the official forums. It even got namechecked by Dan in some video interview. My proudest moment.
im saying from what i seen in this years devs use pastebin .... to fix or shut down false leaks around..usually
ie. (crazy example) im cerny .....one day i go on internet and i read ...ps4 can do 0.7 tf.....i go upset but ill no go to vgleaks and spill them docs
i just open a pastebin explain good how the system work and that isnt a 0.7tf system
but as a ps4 engineer...i would no have any interest to go to vgleaks and spill docs ..for free
HollovVpo1nt
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Reiko's gonna Reiko.
Phonomezer
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It actually has 2 GB DDR5 and 12 GB assRAM. i know things.
CrunchinJelly
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Six pages overnight, Jesus you guys slow down a bit. 
No "Reiko" would assume all of it was true. According to common belief, right?
Has already been done. Many lulz were had.
Good good. I thought the length of the Sony event killed off the hype arch.
Why would they use pastebin or even care.
it would have the same credibility as vgleaks or edge or whatever to be true just 50%
specialguy
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12 ram doesn't if i recall correctly. nvidia made some card with asymmetric ram. (eg, 1.5gb on 128 bit bus and the like) i bet in a console it would be fine.
but might as well do 16 if you dont change the bus imo.
and why a dev should open their mind to vgleaks lol ....
vgleaks edge rumor come JUST from superdae and based on the same documents...and no dont trust in edge...their different source must be somethign close to superdae....deal with it
is for this that we have JUST THAT rumor..JUST THAT diagram ...not coz "nothing is changed"
Even if I did I wouldnt tell you.
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virgin games, wow. how things have changed.
You don't have to.
so because you dont trust a source I need to deal with it?.
Can someone show me a link to a site, that isnt pastebin, or using pastebin as a reference that mentions this stuff.
Or are you guys seriously hedging everything on a website used to share code. Rumours arent even 1% of it.
RAM is obviously the most plausible, since both the CU's and ESRAM would mean quite a bit larger die.
And from what I read from people who know more about this than me, 12CU's + ESRAM is already roughly the same size as Sony's 18 CU's.
And that is probably as large as you want to go because of costs, yields, costs/yields...
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