Kotaku: We asked 3 questions to Sony about DRM and Used Games
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Master Genesis Dream
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So basically, they don't want to talk about it?
The way Ms is doing the disc installs, that is impossible. You WILL have to have an internet connection, since every game can be installed and played withtou a disc.. Publishers cannot choose.
Live Free or Die
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Those were already answered back at the ps4 reveal.
metalslimer
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Impeccable
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Seems like both companies are still working on all of this. Guess this means we need to keep tweetin.
If neither company commits by E3 I might wait a year for both consoles or longer.
If neither company commits by E3 I might wait a year for both consoles or longer.
Knux-Future
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I like how it is just assumed they will follow Microsoft.
Have some faith guys lol.
Have some faith guys lol.
THE:MILKMAN
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I can confirm "something" is happening.
Sorry
If we don't hear clear answers at E3, I think to some degree it will be bad news....
That is what I expect too. Anyone expecting otherwise will have a major disappointment at E3.
Thinking the same.
granabanana
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I have been suspicious ever since EA dropped online passes.
I'm sure they have a specific PR plan on how to deliver that information and until they're ready to follow through with that plan then being intentionally vague is their best option.
lol
CassidyIzABeast
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Really is amazing.
and they said nothing
Sounds about right, may as well just turn on TMZ.
Sony's PR team should definitely send him a bottle of Champagne.
So you thought that Sony, not saying a word after all the articles and tweets, was going to go "Hey, Kotaku's asking, of course we're gonna answer that one" or something?
E3's in 10 days, they won't bother commenting more before that.
Besides, they did give an answer, which is "same stance than we said we had on the issue". It's not like they used the classic "we don't comment on rumours and speculation".
Principate
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Because confirming would be even more free advertising unless the news was bad. But in the most likely case they haven't formally decided until recently like it was implied recently.
razoftblend
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Rumors of hardware in both consoles turned out to be true. XO's rumors turned out to be true. EA killed online passes just like that. Sony used online passes for their games.
I don't know, it doesn't look too good for gamers at this point.
I would somewhat get this if they hadn't said anything about used games prior to the Microsoft event but they've been vague and have had multiple statements about this since February. The rumors about used games being blocked were first attached to Sony so it's not like there's no reason to think that they won't do something similar.
Not really since T2 doesn't even know what MS is doing, and is speculating along with us.
What rumors about the PS4?
Staying quiet is the smartest option--say nothing, let the Internet vent its frustration at MS, then after MS has clarified their position Sony can come out and explain their system, highlight the ways they're better ("we let publishers decide!") and people can see them as a victim of a situation set up by MS's evil policies.
Unless they're going completely region- and DRM-free, saying anything makes no sense when they can just let MS blunder into the PR fiasco. So basically I agree; if they have good news now would be the best time to give it, silence indicates things tip the other direction.
Metalmurphy
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You better hurry up Sony, those new GPUs are looking quite tempting.
scrapplejoe
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so say Microsoft comes out and says "We have a Used game policy... its just like before where you can trade your games in, but the dev's get a cut and so do we"
and then sony comes out later (since their conference is later) and they say "NO used game policy...muahahahah)...
I would think the Dev's might be a bit peeved at this and lean more towards working with Microsoft
and then sony comes out later (since their conference is later) and they say "NO used game policy...muahahahah)...
I would think the Dev's might be a bit peeved at this and lean more towards working with Microsoft
Master Genesis Dream
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I find it hard to believe that MS will have some kind of DRM which publishers want and Sony won't.
And it's cute watching people trying to make themselves feel better by saying "Sony will leave it up to the publisher!". Yes and you can count on one hand (maybe two fingers) the number of publishers who won't use it.
If you don't want to see the number of MS 3rd party exclusives increase dramatically, you have better hope Sony has some sort of DRM because that's where the industry is headed.
You may now misdirect your anger towards me.
And it's cute watching people trying to make themselves feel better by saying "Sony will leave it up to the publisher!". Yes and you can count on one hand (maybe two fingers) the number of publishers who won't use it.
If you don't want to see the number of MS 3rd party exclusives increase dramatically, you have better hope Sony has some sort of DRM because that's where the industry is headed.
You may now misdirect your anger towards me.
granabanana
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well said
Glorified G
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Every single third party will be paying their own servers to constantly check to authenticate their games?
link?
If Sony had no plan to restrict used sales, why wouldn't they say anything immediately after Microsoft was getting attacked left and right for their rumored plan? The longer this silence goes on, the more likely it looks that, even if they don't have the exact same thing that Microsoft might have, it'll be something pretty similar.
razoftblend
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The CPU type, the GPU being more capable than XO's, the touchpad on the controller. The one we're missing is the offline game authentication one. That's the one people are assuming is what Sony is going to do for used games and may require a fee.
Syphon Filter
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I agree but what about the 24 hour drm, do you think Sony will do something similar there as well?
Devs are not part of this equation. It is all about publishers. If publishers want to share revenue to devs, they certainly can, but zero percent of used game sales will go to devs. And publishers will not drop support for PS4.
I honestly don't think that's very clear at all. At this point (taking Take Two's comments into account) they're not even sure they'll benefit from MS used game sales.
They have little to gain from announcing their plans now. They have tons more to gain by waiting ten days.
I don't see how people expect them to announce anything at this point.
andthebeatgoeson
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Is drm why Nintendo is getting hosed? Root for the good guys.
Mind games.
It's sort of an arms race. If publishers boycott Sony because they don't have a drastic DRM system implemented by default, that also reduces potential sales of their games a lot. Not only this, but in a context where a lot of people seem very unhappy with MS's policy, XB1 sales might not be as good as the 360's.
sechsterangriff
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I fear we won't hear anything more concrete until they're ready to talk about prices and launch details...
Sony has traditionally announced the price at E3. Let's hope they do the same this time.
Sony has traditionally announced the price at E3. Let's hope they do the same this time.
Hosed in what way?
PolarGamer
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Oh come on. Video game journalism is shitty enough as it is. Are we really going to ask them NOT to ask questions?
Jonathan Blow was shouting at Twitter the other day for the gaming press to ask more questions and dig on stuff like Xbone's infinite cloud power. All sites could easily get hold of some cloud expert and ask about the reality of the idea and so far none have done so (please correct if wrong). Extremely frustrating that games journos seem to think work only consists of waiting for press releases and invitations to staged events.
More questions please. And printing bs answers from PR boys is a nice way of telling people they at least tried.
Impeccable
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Used game sales are down, DLC sales are up. There is no chance in hell that used games profits would outweigh a whole platform's sales. Ever.
You can just have a one time activation and tie the game to an account. Killing used games completely.
And yes, every big third party has such a system. They are called Origin, Uplay, Bnet ect..
andthebeatgoeson
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I thought you would say that.
Visualante2
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I think they literally don't know and are scared to tread on someone's toes. I don't think we'll even get clarification at E3 unless they decide to go to war with Microsoft on this and make it part of the message (seems unlikely because now is the perfect time to be exploiting that)
razoftblend
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That might be one of the reasons. They can still use online passes, but those are seen as evil. EA was hoping to get off of that by having MS become the evil guy, except this time they can block a whole game and not just the online portion. It may explain why they're not getting any of those sports games when the Wii got those
Different people say different things.