The Last of Us - Review Thread [Emargo up, scores in OP.]

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Huh, this may be the first game I've bought in a long time.
I can't get over how funny the Citizen Kane of video games popping up.
 
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I'm uncomfortable playing any game with a 14 yr old and a grown man as lone survivors in a post apocalyptic world. According to the Machinima video review, they hate each other at first then they grow to love each other. It's all dubious.
 
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antitrop said:
An actor. I have no idea other than that.
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He runs quarter to three. He has been reviewing video games since the print days. He is my favorite reviewer, as he plays all types of games, not just the AAA blockbusters, so his gaming opinions match up much closer to mine. Be warned though, he gives zero fucks about hype and fanboys, and uses the entire scale haha.
 
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Hats off, Naughty Gods.

damn.
 
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Loakum said:
What's it to you if we choose to talk about Polygon? This is a thread about TLOU review scores. Polygon gave a TLOU review score....you can see why we're discussing this..right?
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I don't think it's inherently ridiculous to speculate about plausible scenarios, here. However, where I begin to scratch my head is when it becomes clear that this is a serious matter with real repercussions, and discrediting them -- despite knowing that one won't be able to definitively do that -- is important.
 
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Loakum said:
What's it to you if we choose to talk about Polygon? This is a thread about TLOU review scores. Polygon gave a TLOU review score....you can see why we're discussing this..right?
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The problem is that you're diluting the thread and making it difficult to find posts that are actually worth reading.
 
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DatDude said:
This point was reflecting my stance on how Polygon wanted to be the odd one out, so they could get the most hits.

Thus purposely scoring it lower
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How are you ever going to prove such an accusation? Maybe the reviewer didn't enjoy the game as much as the majority? So what?

That's not a reason to get annoyed at them. You might get the game and agree with many of the points argued - heck, you might get the game and feel that 7.5 was too generous!
 
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sam27368 said:
Lol.

Polygons shady relationship? As evidenced where? Yes it's known that MS funded the documentary and they have been open about that. And I'm sure they receive just as much revenue from Sony from the massive TLOU banners I've seen all over the site.

Gies's hyperbolic tweets - I follow him and other journalists and I remember seeing just oas many tweets from journalists gushing over the game. So he's not allowed an opinion now?

3 - sorry I forgot you'd played and finished the title. And so fucking what if they did? Are those games not deserving? Maybe in your opinion.

4 - I forgot Polygon were the only journalistic outlet who got things wrong and jumped on the bandwagon too soon without thoroughly fact checking. We must single them out and burn them!
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Unfortunately, way too many people have these two setting when it comes to reviews.

It's either, "you rated this game higher than I believe, so you've obviously been paid off" or "you rated this game lower than I believe, so you're biased against platform X/know nothing about games/etc." Especially before almost nobody has played more than 20 minutes of a game.

As a result, when the vast majority of criticisms of reviews fall into these two categories, I can completely understand why game reviewers ignore comments on the review or threads on here or other message boards.

I have no doubt TLOU is a great game. But, you can find a bad review for almost every movies, even the major ones. And this isn't a "bad" review. It's just a less than fantastic review.
 
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Steve Youngblood said:
I don't think it's inherently ridiculous to speculate about plausible scenarios, here. However, where I begin to scratch my head is when it becomes clear that this is a serious matter with real repercussions, and discrediting them -- despite knowing that one won't be able to definitively do that -- is important.
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Kotaku got heavily discredited on GAF when they were banned from the forum. We can definitely discredit websites that deserve it.
 
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Steve Youngblood said:
I might suggest that this isn't a point worth proving. Maybe I've just got an antiquated notion of what a score means in this current "Scores are serious business because Metacritic is a big deal" era, but I generally don't consider assigning a score to a game to be a scientific process. There's no clear criteria for what differentiates an A game from a B game, and there certainly isn't when we introduce the 100 point scale. Further, I don't think there's anything wrong with allowing for the fact that there are imperfect factors that influence the score such as simply what kind of mood the reviewer is in that day.

I could be way off the mark, but to me the importance of the score is simply to give a general idea for what the reviewer thought of the game. "A 95? Awesome. That means he really liked it and I generally see eye-to-eye with his views. I look forward to playing it myself." That's how I view scores. I don't look to it as some objective metric of where it stacks up with every other game as I can only conclude that the process is inevitably pretty arbitrary.
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I completely agree, but I still think scores can be used to 'compare' games to a certain extent, but only when the reviewer and genre are the same (as I stated earlier). Example; if a specific reviewer gives Tomb Raider a '8' when he gave Uncharted 2 a '9', you can almost be certain that the reviewer though Uncharted was a better game.

Nothing more than that though, and I only made my statement to prove that the point Game Analyst is trying to make is wrong (imo).
 
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Steve Youngblood said:
I don't think it's inherently ridiculous to speculate about plausible scenarios, here. However, where I begin to scratch my head is when it becomes clear that this is a serious matter with real repercussions, and discrediting them -- despite knowing that one won't be able to definitively do that -- is important.
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lol, well some folks are just more passionate about review scores than others, I suppose. I can remember the whole hoopla over MGS4 review scores. lol
 
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StuBurns said:
I like Tom Chick's writing, it's not trying to sound like Sorkin script.
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Yep. I tend to disagree with his opinions, but his reviews are interesting to read.

Also, some of the reviews people quote are not actually that harsh. He's on a 5 point scale if I'm not mistaken, so 3/5 for Infinite isn't even completely at odds with some other reviews.
 
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Jarmel said:
That doesn't refute the quality of the review itself. People haven't argued about whether the criticism is valid but rather about Polygon itself. This is an ad hominem.
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They're attacking the credibility and honesty of the review, which is completely valid. If they were saying that Polygon hates pizza or isn't a patriot that would be different.
 
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So I'm not on desktop right now and checked that GT review is up on their website which I haven't watched. However I don't see their score posted on the first page.
 
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Toma said:
Kotaku got heavily discredited on GAF when they were banned from the forum. We can definitely discredit websites that deserve it.
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I think instances like the SimCity review fiasco do a far better job of making that case as opposed to questioning a middling reviews score. But that's just me.
 
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i-Lo said:
So I'm not on desktop right now and checked that GT review is up on their website which I haven't watched. However I don't see their score posted on the first page.
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No score, they said it s really awesome though.

They are waiting to add more footage and played more MP.
 
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Radec said:
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Hats off, Naughty Gods.

damn.
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Other than TLOU, which I haven't played, I don't like any of the games in that list.

Orayn said:
Oh, right. Some people were unhappy about me when I said essentially the same thing about BSI reviews.

The actual mentions of gameplay in these make me expect "pretty good," rather than "mediocre" like for BSI.
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You were right then and you're right now.
 
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Steve Youngblood said:
I think instances like the SimCity review fiasco do a far better job of making that case as opposed to questioning a middling reviews score. But that's just me.
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Certainly, and I am not singling out this score as THE reason to discredit them, but its a good reason to remind people of the mountain of shit they amassed so far.
 
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Fancy Corndog said:
They're attacking the credibility and honesty of the review, which is completely valid. If they were saying that Polygon hates pizza or isn't a patriot that would be different.
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No it's not. They're attacking the person/site on the grounds that it makes the review irrelevant. They haven't refuted the actual arguments present within the review itself.
 
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