I am a complete football and soccer novice, know jack shit about either. Is it possible they could do something similar in Europe?
Microsoft's E3 conference date is Monday, June 10th
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I am a complete football and soccer novice, know jack shit about either. Is it possible they could do something similar in Europe?
Nothing is as "uniform" -- there might be logistical considerations.
Sweet Aunt Nancys Panties
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The NFL is desperate to spread into Europe, but I doubt MS would spend money to help them do that. The NFL contract has to be mainly for the US. Localized content is a great thing if the region you're doing it in is as huge as Europe or in this case the US. Some people think everything a console offers should be worldwide. That's not feasible or smart. But it also shouldnt mean that MS ignores finding good content for those other regions.
Miles Quaritch
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With Football? If they did, it would be pretty big news over here. Football to Europe is what NFL is to the US.
I just hope they don't waste another $400m trying the same thing in Europe.
The problem is that Europe has many different football leagues, biggest ones being La Liga (Spain), Serie A (Italy) and Premier League (England) as well as the Bundensliga (Germany) is pretty popular. The issue is that these operate independently from one another, so MS would need to pay up to each of them (or just one or 2 of them). Its not like in the US where the NFL, NBA, MLB etc rule the whole sport they represent with a iron fist. It would end up costing them a fuck ton more to cover all these and gain the same effect as just doing this with the NFL
And then there is the language barrier as well as different countries with literally tens of thousands of TV channels
A better idea is to just really improve Xbox Live here, its really lackluster, unbelievably so, the US Live is amazing, just seeing the stuff you guys get is mouth watering.
And then there is the language barrier as well as different countries with literally tens of thousands of TV channels
A better idea is to just really improve Xbox Live here, its really lackluster, unbelievably so, the US Live is amazing, just seeing the stuff you guys get is mouth watering.
You mean because of all the countries involved?
I meant more football than ... us football, not sure europeans will embrace NFL when we have a popular alternative already.
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Countries, languages, networks, and leagues. Into's post above nails it.You mean because of all the countries involved?
I meant more football than ... us football, not sure europeans will embrace NFL when we have a popular alternative already.
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Thanks.
I guess at the least they should focus on UK first given they have a foothold here. (currently anyway ...)
if they don't offer cheaper solution to Red Zone AT LEAST, or NFL ticket, then for me I can't see me using it but will have to see how it's implemented while I'm watching games... I can get a lot of info from DirecTV too but it's slow and cumbersome... so I use my laptop or phone while watching TV.
IF X1 makes that hella easy then maybe they have something
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hehe. I'm not firing on all cylinders today.
SirMossyBloke
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I guarantee you if MS put $400 million into something Japanese only and not Football, you'd be complaining about it. Especially from what we've seen so far with MS. You're only arguing it's a good thing because you happen to be a fan and it's catering to your needs.
Sweet Aunt Nancys Panties
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I guarantee you that you're wrong.
It would be badass of a move, Brazil are eager for soccer too, but here there are big stakeholders monopolizing our championships rights, so IF they did bring the UK soccer through LIVE it would be colossal.
SirMossyBloke
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It's hard to argue with someone who supports $400 million into Football with someone with a Football avatar.
Well, from what SE had doing to them selfs early years, probably yes.
Also: I love Kane & Lynch and it's SE published.
Neko Mimi Mode
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Your post quality has decreased dramatically since those Jet Force Gemini rumours. Have you been drinking?
Can you imagine the meltdowns?
Microsoft have invested a metric shitton for Xbox One in Japan already though. New studio built from scratch. Expanding headquarters and taking on boatloads of staff. Games, of course. These things all add up.
It's a shame Microsoft have to invest in other things, but at the same time it's hard to be upset when they sink $1 billion into games alone.
no, I have done other posts as well but those probably do not count....
you can also find me making "negative" posts sometimes in the Sony thread as well. Mostly considering their strange love for and faith in Killzone or Squaresoft games as system sellers or just saying the PS4 still has no interesting launch games as well (they really do not, yet).
I would have posted a similar post in the E3 sony thread if I noticed the "news" were not discussed or mentioned at all.
Sweet Aunt Nancys Panties
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How many millions did Microsoft invest in Japan at the start of the 360? Many many millions. I didn't have a problem with that despite hating JRPGs. And if you read back, you'd see that I think the way they're using their 400 million is stupid. I'm also saying that spending a lot of money for content only valuable to one market is a good thing if that market is huge.
I think it's important to note that this is more of an NFL - Microsoft deal, not just an NFL - Xbox deal. From a games point of view it could be considered a waste of money, but the deal also includes using other MS technology, such as using Surface tablets on the sidelines etc..
Add in the advertisements for MS product that will likely be taking place, and it might not be such a bad investment as it first appears.
Add in the advertisements for MS product that will likely be taking place, and it might not be such a bad investment as it first appears.
If there is placed advertisement then yes a trip worthwhile.
Sweet Aunt Nancys Panties
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Alright, that actually is a better deal then.
Miles Quaritch
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Miles Quaritch
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Okay, now that makes a lot of sense and I guess it could seen as a pretty good investment if you factor everything in.
Neko Mimi Mode
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Hastily thrown together in a minute or so...
It's a seriously amazing game, not sure if I'd say it's the best XBLA game ever but damn if it doesn't come close.
It's a seriously amazing game, not sure if I'd say it's the best XBLA game ever but damn if it doesn't come close.
I'm not sure they will. If the game is years away then they may not risk showing anything. They don't want a VS XIII situation on thier hands.
Miles Quaritch
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Hastily thrown together in a minute or so...
It's a seriously amazing game, not sure if I'd say it's the best XBLA game ever but damn if it doesn't come close.
Nice, good to see Fable get some recognition.
It really is, I'd say it's easily one of the best games on XBLA. It's fast becoming one my games of the generation. I honestly still cannot believe someone created the zombie game I've been yearning for since first playing Dead Rising 1. Still blows me mind.
And with its excellent sales, I hope MS do the right thing and allow Undead Labs as much freedom as they need to patch the game, release additional modes/content and perhaps even fund a next gen version after UDL have finished the PC version.
John Caboose
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Yeah I noticed it too.
I've got a special image for "3 days left" coming up tomorrow. See you there!
Football is watched outside of the US too.
Crackdown 3!!
Mini will be DD only. Makes it far easier to sell them to One owners and potential one owners.
Also gives them more dosh when many replace much of their disc based 360 library with downloads like I most likely will.
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Must be Crackdown 3, surely.
Or Banjo Threeie, cause we need all the positive karma we can get.
Which countries would that be? As far as I know football is mostly irrelevant outside of the US but I could be wrong.
Thinking the same, but a disc would be nice. They need to bring those DD titles down and the amount of them way up. Hook that baby into the one and ready to go.
In the same way cricket and soccer are viewed in the US.
Not the football vs handegg debate, please! We've suffered enough in this thread
That's not what I want actually! I'm genuinely curious in which countries he thinks american football is anything but irrelevant.
Sweet Aunt Nancys Panties
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You're not wrong. It's a predominantly a North American sport despite their attempts to bring it to Europe and Asia. The fact that it generates 9 billion dollars a year in one region is exactly why saying they shouldn't partner with the NFL is so wrong.
Soccer is far more popular in the US than the NFL is in any other country. Except maybe Afghanistan due to all the service men and women stationed there.
hey I'm a good junior!
that one, however, needs to learn what tact is.
gaming age is literally flooded with negative x1 threads, we don't need that everywhere lol
If they can put a blanket price across all games on demand at launch time as a "special" they will rake in cash like there's no tomorrow. I think that would be a good strategy.
Then as the 360 winds down, stagger he specials to get more and more people over.
I would literally replace my entire collection if that were the case. Or not since it would allow disc based BC on One anyway.
Yup the NFL is huge and the deal MS placed far more reaching than a lame app. The whole I can do this now on my tablet, PC is the same argument people used when MS introduced Netflix streaming to consoles. In this case it's irrelevant, because they are using Smart Glass as well as the console.
I'm a fan of football and fantasy sports. No way has anyone done anything where I'm watching the game, and my fantasy stuff is updating in realtime, and I can cut to the highlight of my player scoring etc. All the while skyping with buddies at the same time on the same screen. Far from lame in my opinion.
Nobody is claiming it's a system seller in itself, but hey when I own one I'm definately going to use the capabilities.
My original point is that there are many ways other than games to promote your console. It was gaming new tht Sony was promoting the PS4 at the Champions League. But, we are talking 5 years of promo for Xbox One. The NFL is talking referees with Xbox logos and the entire league using Surface tablets. Plus the whole official partner thing that will probably include other advertising. Sounds like 80 million a year well spent to me.
You could also argue that it's going to be profitable for them which leads to more money being available for games. Whether that's actually the case? who knows.
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