RobotMafia
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But Gakai is just for PS3 games isn't it? There isn't any reason to use it for PS4 games.
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But Gakai is just for PS3 games isn't it? There isn't any reason to use it for PS4 games.
It depends on soft factors. Status quo this gen for the PS3 is that always-online DRM is allowed, but the fear of losing sales to publishers who DIDN'T has kept it from being used in anything but a couple of Capcom's PSN titles. (This is similar to how region-locking is allowed, but has only been used for P4A and a karaoke app on Japanese PSN.)
IMO Sony is likely to continue on this path, which is why they haven't been too loud about their policy. The question is whether not mandating it will lead to an ecosystem like the PS3's, where almost no one locks down because it's a competitive disadvantage.
I don't have your faith.
I think some people will learn to take it, as long as they get to play their COD.
Marmaladefire
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Not only that, but to all but the type of person who would post here, it's straight up complicated. Billy's mom and Sara's mom go black friday shopping together and get two Xbones for their kids, and pick up a game each. The kids decide to swap games for a week after they tire of them. They stick the discs in and suddenly "WHY WON'T SARA'S GAME PLAY ON MY XBOX?" This will be happening all over the country.
Tidus_Great
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interesting read. thanks TC
Because the only way to make money is the way MS does it.
Unknown Soldier
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You thought that the DRM boss only had one stage?
The worst part is how there isn't a checkpoint between each stage, so you have to kill the first stage form and over until you can kill the second form!
Thanks, #4 was confusing me a bit. Wasn't sure if it was saying it's worse than it appears or there were far worse options in the works.
It would be great if Sony just put up logos of all the games coming to PS4 to negate Microsoft's buyout.
I'm wondering this as well. Where is the reasoning for that line of thought coming from?
Several people have confirmed that ME2 will not be exclusive.
PoP may or may not be exclusive, as the OP does not explicitly say either way.
Well, CBOAT didn't comment on the exclusivity.
I would be shocked if they were exclusive though.
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kittens
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For reals. We should all be talking to the gamers we know and telling them about this stuff.
Indeed.
By. The. Millions.
There IS the possibility they get it in their head that as MS is doing this that Sony can jump in too! And try to pressure them to adopt similar. This is the basis of the feelings (for me) that Microsoft was going to have to go if they went down this path (which they did), because them trying to push it can cause it to spread and be unable to be shaken off, doubly so if they succeed but perhaps even if they don't. A complete throttling, should Sony only maintain the status quo anyway, would probably set back efforts to implement this kind of DRM outside of the PC space for quite awhile, especially as Steam's not even half as bullshit as this.
And if Sony can manage to get the message sent that yes, they have CoD too, HOPEFULLY that severely mitigates that problem. They still have that fucking exclusive DLC though, but that is timed.
Gaikai will be used for PS4 games. It's a content delivery system. That "play as soon as you buy" tech they've talked about is all part of the Gaikai platform.
No, man. At some point pubs have had meetings with MS and Sony about piracy, ect. Is it too crazy to think that each company would have a plan in place too appease the pubs?
MS has theirs at a system level, and Sony has the pubs put it in their games.
Is it crazy to speculate that?
Either way, johnny madden is gonna be fucked with either console, right?
JoeyJungle
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And if it's a 3 stage boss fight then fuck my life
3rd form is usually the easiest
They don't have to take it, though. They can just get their COD fix on the PS4. As negative word of mouth about the XBOne spreads, so will positive word of mouth spread about the PS4, eventually becoming the console of choice for both hardcore and casual gamers.
...assuming it has none of this draconian DRM bullshit, of course. If it does, both Sony and Microsoft can go die in a fire.
Duxxy3
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My guess is that ea will use origin and UbiSoft will use uplay as some form of DRM, whether it be online passes or something else. Other than those two I think the ps4 will be DRM free.
CambriaRising
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By this time tomorrow we will know definitively whether ps4 will have drm. There isn't much more to say than that.
QisTopTier
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The whole pretend we have exclusives stuff pisses me off more than anything. But that's how micro has always been since 360
It may be a hard position to negotiate from. Take a look at it using game theory. What can the publishers do without revealing Microsoft's position and thereby giving Sony a reason to defect in this prisoner's dilemma?
devious.one
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I keep seeing others say it, but I don't think CBoaT was saying that Dead Rising would be exclusive, only some capcom DLC would be exclusive.
It would be interesting if pulling this shit when the industry was set to contract ends up leading to a full on crash. No success at expanding user base, and a lot the user base that is there just up and leaves over this stuff rather than putting up with it, at least in great enough numbers that the games that they're throwing this crap on simply can't make enough to justify their development. It really isn't the best time to be dicking around with user rights at any rate.
Ok guys I'm out of the shock phase (the MS scum has sunk in).
I just wanted to say thanks to CBoat for the truthfacts, really appreciate them so far and I hope you can provide us with more. Also thanks to the mods for keeping the thread title and OP as-is, no translation or anything else. This OP is gold to be messed around with and will probably go down in the annals of GAF.
I just wanted to say thanks to CBoat for the truthfacts, really appreciate them so far and I hope you can provide us with more. Also thanks to the mods for keeping the thread title and OP as-is, no translation or anything else. This OP is gold to be messed around with and will probably go down in the annals of GAF.
Everyone is in the "wait and see" approach.
I'm sure the agreements they have in place with the publishers have clauses that forbid them from announcing titles without publisher consent.
darkistheway
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Well, this year they'll play it on their current gen systems. Next year, if the market rejects the xbone they'll play it on PS4 or their current gen systems. The ubiquity and market presence of COD is one gen old; it won't automatically make the Xbone a success.
Lonewolf_92
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How about this:
Cloud = DRM according to CBOAT
MS requires all games released for XBONE to incorporate cloud functionality
Devs rush to do so as they don't want their games to not be on the successor of the popular 360 (not knowing the blacklash that would come regarding MS DRM later)
Games are designed to use cloud functionality as per requirement, regardless whether they are single player or multiplayer, games cannot be played offline or are crippleware when played offline (ala Simcity, which might have been EA testing the waters)
Just a random thought on how it could be worse.
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kittens
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Isn't COD: Ghosts confirmed to be an Xbox One timed exclusive? That could have a big impact, but hopefully not a lasting one.
Some are being really optimistic admittedly, or that's the impression I get. I'm being cautiously optimistic; I suspect at worst it's going to still be the more appealing Digital platform than the X1, even if retail games are fucked up.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Well I guess, that's that.
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Zok310
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We can figure sony's position on DRM from 3. If this was MS idea from the start and they went to 3rd party devs for support surly Sony would have been building the PS4 without DRM in mind until EA and Ubi came up to them and said "hey can we do this on the PS4, MS is doing it?"
Hopefully Sony would have told them no PS4 won't make it mandatory but if you want your games to support that we can add that freature for you.
So from that is it safe to assume that PS4 will support DRM if the pub wants it and it won't be mandatory or as restrictive like xb1?
About money hatting devs to not mention their PS4 games, that's just some low down dirty shit. I hope those games bomb.
it's not
I think just timed exclusive DLC again.
I wouldn't say it's safe to assume at all. Sony mandated online passes for their games, which is already a step taken towards this stuff. They're still entirely up in the air on taking it further or not.
If the 299 price point is true, xbone definitely will not fail
outsida
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That's the line that sealed it for me.
BlastProcessing
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My Sony Abu Dhabi source tells me that GT6 is actually really short and the plan is just to play through the whole thing on stage. 55 minute conference.
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