Do you like what you've seen so far from Wii U's visuals?

Mario Kart 8 isn't 1080p. Super Smash Bros is.

While I wouldn't go as far that MK looks worse than most current gen games, it doesn't strike me as particulary impressive (technically) either. I like the looks though. This is where Nintendo games often excel (just my opinion of course).

technically is well ahead of anything on last gen consoles, if only for the fact that it's full 720@60fps. But it also has great geometry, advanced lighting, depth of field and perfect (as far as I can tell) draw distance. Mario 3D is significantly less impressive.
 
The most impressive thing here is the fact that most of these games are either 1080p, 60fps, or both while comparable ps360 games are mostly 540p 30fps with some doing either 720p or 60fps.

Have we proven the wiiU is technically more capable than the ps360 yet?
 
Most of them are propping up anything that looks better than expected, as high as they can, with as much praise and hyperbole as they can, to downplay PS4/X1 visuals. It's transparent and quite disingenuous. I'm an idiot and I can see through it. With that said, it's not inferior to most current-gen games like you said. It's in the upper tier.


Mario Kart is 720p.

You said it.
 
I don't get whats inferior about it at all? Its 1080p 60FPS for starters...

720p 60fps and because its 60fps its inferior technologically to maintain it. Thats the point. Its nothing wrong with 60fps and decreased fidelity of course, its not technically impressive as current gen games and still is 60fps.

And there is some game called Wipeout HD that is 1080p and 60fps on PS3 and was released in 2008.
 
Mario Kart 8 graphics alone impressed me more than any Xbox One title shown.

PS4 graphics impressed me the most though.

When you say "impressive" it implies graphically and technically impressive. Nobody says "impressive art style", they say "beautiful/gorgeous/etc artstyle". So your statement here is that you think Mario Kart 8 is more impressive than anything shown on Xbox One.

I'm not an Xbox defender, but please look at these videos:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=583721
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=586676

Both games are far more graphically impressive than Mario Kart 8. If you can't see that, you really shouldn't be talking about what's impressive and what's not because graphics aren't an opinion, art style is an opinion. And The Division is also releasing on Xbox One, fyi.


The most impressive thing here is the fact that most of these games are either 1080p, 60fps, or both while comparable ps360 games are mostly 540p 30fps.

Have we proven the wiiU is technically more capable than the ps360 yet?
Only Smash Bros. has been confirmed at 1080p, iirc. Not sure where all this is coming from. Mario Kart isn't 1080p.
 
Seriously, Nintendo fans are blind.
Reading that it looks like early next-gen game, when technically is inferior to almost all current-gen multiplatform games or reading that lighting is better in something like Super Mario 3D in compared to Galaxy, when both have 90 degree the simplest shadows and exactly the same lighting conditions, its just scary.

At least Mario Kart has decent lighting, but still looks very inferior to most current gen games.
An example of someone who doesn't know anything about tech and is blind enough to think that normal people will believe his lie XD
 
An example of someone who doesn't know anything about tech and is blind enough to think that normal people will believe his lie XD

Nice posts history, just Nintendo topics.

Ok, if i dont know anything about tech, please enlighten us how lighting in new Mario is different to Galaxy. Or how tech is different in new game, how particles are different in new game, how geometry is more dense etc. I'm listening.
 
When you say "impressive" it implies graphically and technically impressive. Nobody says "impressive art style", they say "beautiful/gorgeous/etc artstyle". So your statement here is that you think Mario Kart 8 is more impressive than anything shown on Xbox One.

I'm not an Xbox defender, but please look at these videos:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=583721
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=586676

Both games are far more graphically impressive than Mario Kart 8. If you can't see that, you really shouldn't be talking about what's impressive and what's not because graphics aren't an opinion, art style is an opinion. And The Division is also releasing on Xbox One, fyi.

Those two games are definitely graphically impressive, and will be lucky to sell a tenth as many copies as Mario Kart. Seeing it in person, I'd say the point is that it's hard to imagine Mario Kart needing to look better than it does. But then again when I was 11 I finished the first level of Star Fox 64 and thought we had reached graphical perfection, so maybe I'm an idiot right there with you.

Anyway, XBone and PS4 are clearly more powerful than the Wii U, and will have prettier games. But all we've heard over the past two+ years is how the Wii U games will look like Saturn games next to the PS4/Bone. This is clearly not the case.
 
I'm not really interested in Nintendo but I came in here to say that the graphics are very nice. What I've seen so far seems quite beautiful and very crisp.

I'll always be eager to see better and better graphics but at the same I recognize that all machines are now capable of creating engaging images and movements. Developer ideas can be convey now without worrying too much about hardware. Now it's more about artistic ability and thoughtful design instead of raw horsepower.
 
And Gamersyde said WW is 30fps. So I doubt that one too.

I'm certain WW is 30 fps. I'm usually right on these things. If I saw it with my own eyes I could tell you for a fact, but I haven't.

and not to rain on the X parade, but organic landscapes are actually easier to make look good than detailed cityscapes. X looks really good. I would argue it looks a bit beyond what the 360 and PS3 can do, however it's nowhere near the Xbone. Technically, Dead Rising 3 is doing a lot more. *technically*.
 
And Gamersyde said WW is 30fps. So I doubt that one too.

Your point is..?

As I said, there are direct feed screenshots of MK 8 out there. All rendered in 720p (no bullshots btw. which is great). Very unlikely that they wouldn't release 1080p screenshots if the game was 1080p. Also, why specifically mention 60 fps but not the resolution if there was something to brag about (they did with Smash Bros).
 
Most of them are propping up anything that looks better than expected, as high as they can, with as much praise and hyperbole as they can, to downplay PS4/X1 visuals. It's transparent and quite disingenuous. I'm an idiot and I can see through it. With that said, it's not inferior to most current-gen games like you said. It's in the upper tier.


Mario Kart is 720p.

This is so dumb. At this point you are arguing for the sake of arguing. You are not going to convince anyone that your point is correct and they sure as hell aren't going to convince you of theirs.

The guy you quoted in that post is an idiot. Leaving it at that. I'm not going to even state my opinion on this topic so as not to fuel your rage.
 
visuals look nice... for 2006

lol you can get away with comparing them to late-gen PS3/360 games if you're daring but say 2006 games and i just can't take you seriously

Most of them are propping up anything that looks better than expected, as high as they can, with as much praise and hyperbole as they can, to downplay PS4/X1 visuals. It's transparent and quite disingenuous. I'm an idiot and I can see through it. With that said, it's not inferior to most current-gen games like you said. It's in the upper tier.

you go in every nintendo thread and try to downplay visuals. you can get away with that in the ps4/xb1 threads but we're immune to it here. it's like you think nintendo gamers have been playing Wiis the last 7 years and we haven't tasted the good word of real graphics. i game on PC. these visuals are fresh.
 
you go in every nintendo thread and try to downplay visuals. you can get away with that in the ps4/xb1 threads but we're immune to it here. it's like you think nintendo gamers have been playing Wiis the last 7 years and we haven't tasted the good word of real graphics. i game on PC. these visuals are fresh.
I don't consider it downplaying at all. Calling the new Mario Kart the most impressive game shown or more impressive than every X1 game and all these other ridiculous, hyperbolic claims should be called out, in my opinion. That's what I did, and I elaborated on why people probably make claims like that. The direct feed video and screens are out there. That's not downplaying.
 
I think both X and Mario Kart look wonderful and on par with many early Xbone/PS4 titles. But the general graphics fidelity of the latter's titles will improve exponentially in the coming years. Can I say the same for the Wii U? Over six years later, was there ever a title on Wii that looked significantly better than Twilight Princess?

Mario Galaxy definitely looked better than TP.
 
Looks pretty comparable to the worst looking ps4 and Xbox One titles.

There's an irony to this.

I didn't see this video until now...

Is it bad that Mario Kart 8 visually impressed me more than any Xbox One game shown?



Smash Bros was confirmed 60FPS?

I'd say the only Xbox One game that looked as good as what Nintendo showed was Metal Gear 5, that shit looked amazing.

Other than that, tears left my eyes as I watched the Nintendo Direct and I literally said, "This is Next-Gen..."
 
Mario Galaxy definitely looked better than TP.

And Xenoblade, in a limited Way.
Some parts of Last Story as well.
Donkey Kong Country Retuns, even though it was 2.5D could easily be mistaken for an xbox360/PS3 game output at a lower res.
Oh, Skyward Sword of course.
Twilight Princess hurts my eyes nowadays, SS is still playable.
 
There's an irony to this.



I'd say the only Xbox One game that looked as good as what Nintendo showed was Metal Gear 5, that shit looked amazing.

Other than that, tears left my eyes as I watched the Nintendo Direct and I literally said, "This is Next-Gen..."

In a topic about visuals and graphics, you're clearly confusing personal feelings and nostalgia.
 
I think they are good, obviously not as good as ps4 and xboxone games, but i dont really care enough for graphics. Id be fine with another generation of wii type visuals, actually.
 
KKRT00 has a history of completely ignoring art style when talking about how videogames look. It's perfectly fine to point out the tech behind the Wii U games and that it's lagging behind PS4 and xbone, but game visuals are more than that.

Mario Kart looks great amidst all the "next-gen" games and that's all that matters really.
 
Not really impressed. I think for the most part, people are just a bit stunned to see Nintendo games finally move up to today's standards.

Welcome to current gen, I guess.
 
I acknowledge that I'm probably in the minority here, and also that my feelings and subsequent response aren't really in the spirit of the question. That said, I've been pretty much living off of my 3DS lately. The games I've spent the most time with lately are Fire Emblem, Etrian Odyssey, Mario Kart 7, and just a little bit of Animal Crossing. These graphics are perfectly fine to me, and they aren't even the best looking stuff on the system. The games are pretty, if not overly detailed. But, mostly, what the 3DS is capable is enough (although there are certainly some instances where a low res texture is zoomed in on, or something equally unfortunate). The only concern I really have with the 3DS is it's ability to do large worlds and vast, open spaces.

Watching PS4 and XB1 footage, I am not impressed by the graphics. Better graphics are just not that big of a deal anymore. The scope and draw distance is impressive, but when we're just talking about filling out the background, I really can't get that excited. Artstyle is the one thing that makes a game (visually) pop for me these days, although I must admit that really I'm getting more interested in systems and general gameplay and less interested in graphics and stories.

I acknowledge that what was shown for Wii U was less graphically impressive than what was shown on the High End Twins. But the Wii U games came across to me mostly as "we're going to use all the juice we can get out of this thing to make a fun game", not "we're going to make it BIG AND SHINY". I am really excited to play those Wii U games, because they look fun. They also look pretty. All three consoles look pretty. Wii U is pretty enough for me to not care about it, and so PS4 and XB1 are beyond the point of diminishing returns for me.

I do plan on getting a PS4 though, because yeah some of those games looked really fun. But if it's just more "cinematic" or more lifelike, I could not fucking care less about it.

Agreed, to be honest, transistor is the game that wowed me more during the Sony conference and it was all because I really liked the art style, this E3 just asured me that I'll be buying a wii U this december/january while I'll keep a ps4 under watch for a while

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as you can see this is not a graphical powerhouse but it was the game that I managed to capture my interest for the ps4 the most
 
I'm only analysing gameplay footages.
Only final fantasy & mario kart were awsome to me (and x a little bit).

Let us just say, we can now confirm that wii u is really a mid gen console.
It's in between.

Still like to see better gameplay graphics from bost next gen consoles...
It's far below my expectations. I know that they could do allot better with their hardware.
 
There's an irony to this.



I'd say the only Xbox One game that looked as good as what Nintendo showed was Metal Gear 5, that shit looked amazing.

Other than that, tears left my eyes as I watched the Nintendo Direct and I literally said, "This is Next-Gen..."

Only Metal gear looked better and tears left your eyes ?

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Only Metal gear looked better and tears left your eyes ?


lol other than that... FFXV and NFS Rivals. The Xbox One conference had plenty of games I was interested in, but I really didn't feel impressed by any of them visually like that. After I saw MGS 5 it was like nothing else even attempted to reach those levels.
 
They looked really great to me. Especially X, Bayonetta 2, Smash Bros and Mario Kart 8.

I know I'll be sticking with PS4 and Wii U this gen. Microsoft had a chance to win me over and they would've gotten me but... you know what, let me try to stay on topic.

And yes i know they are technologically inferior to PS4 and Xbox 1 games, doesn't make them any less gorgeous to look at. I just got The Last of Us today and am playing through it now and despite watching all of E3 and all of the next-gen games, I still think it looks fantastic visually. Yes you can still tell it's a PS3 game, but it's still blowing me away visually and probably still will in years to come when I've already had my fill of "next-gen" games. This E3 showed me that Nintendo can make visually appealing games still with their "far outdated" tech, and really shows the strength a good art direction has.
 
KKRT00 has a history of completely ignoring art style when talking about how videogames look. It's perfectly fine to point out the tech behind the Wii U games and that it's lagging behind PS4 and xbone, but game visuals are more than that.

Mario Kart looks great amidst all the "next-gen" games and that's all that matters really.

Because art is subjective and i cant compare subjective. Of course people can like what they see, i love art style of many indie games, doesnt mean i think they are technically competent and will defend how they look in comparison to tech giants :)

I have no problem with games looking worse or bad if they are very good gameplay wise, hell i'm waiting for Starbound beta like for nothing this year. Also i would take Bioshock: Infinite graphics over BF 3 any day, even though tech is horrible in Infinite :)
 
people still give a shit about this? with the Wii being sub HD I get the complaints but with Nintendo going HD I don't even care anymore as long as it runs good and looks decent.
 
Like with the original Wii, Nintendo is very good at working with what they have. I know that the Wii U isn't as powerful as the other new systems (and I'm certainly not deluding myself into thinking it is), but what I saw looked really good and I know that's a testament to their familiarity with the hardware. It's the best argument for them NOT to go third party, imo.

Also, when I heard that all these games were running in 60fps (and 1080p in Smash's case) I see that as clear proof of the systems superiority over the current Microsoft and Sony consoles. Of course Nintendo's rather streamlined art styles probably helped them achieve these technical goals.
 
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