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[dragonelite]

Said yet?

Could it be that the pc is just a developer environment that is needed to run beta or debug builds. There seems to be a secondary box in each stand with a cable running to the pc.

 

[Fezan]

I doubt that. Why bother with apha dev kits last year if they could just visualize the whole thing with any PC? They shipped 7970s to get devs GCN core to work with.

just my assumption.
if it's not the case why use such a powerful card?

 

[YouEnjoyMySelf]

Titan only has 6GB, the Xbox One is sporting 8 and is clearly superior. So I don't see why people need to make such a fuss, it's a slightly worse GPU.

Also where are the haters now? XBONE is packing a Titan. 500 bucks doesn't seem so expensive now, does it? Bitches

Come one, come all! See two posters on NeoGAF who have no idea what they're talking about!

GDDR5 =/= DDR3

 

[HoodWinked]

good job on reposting the photo shopped picture with the cloud.

GAF->GAF->GAF

 

[syko de4d]

This isn't news. They did the same thing with the 360.

yeahe and the xbox 360 hardware was perfect at launch.

 

[mkenyon]

people are going nuts for nothing right now. Devs can run windows phone games on emulators. MS could have built an x1 emulator for devs.

Corsair 650D + H60 + high end motherboard =/= MS emulator.

That's a custom rig.

 

[maquiladora]

Maybe they aren't xbone devkits? Maybe just running the PC version of the game.....on PC's.

 

[PlayALLtheGames]

I guess it turned out fine (except for the Tweeted crash) but those PCs don't look like they got any breathing room stuck in those tiny wooden cabinets. Why would you set them up like that

 

[Chaos17]

people are going nuts for nothing right now. Devs can run windows phone games on emulators. MS could have built an x1 emulator for devs.

Let's just say that we desagree that we will (maybe?) downgraded games ?

 

[Ploid 3.0]

Of all the things to use a PC case with a glass door, why would you use one for a box at E3..

 

[Trojita]

I guess it turned out fine (except for the Tweeted crash) but those PCs don't look like they got any breathing room stuck in those tiny wooden cabinets. Why would you set them up like that

They are trying to emulate the cooling of the 360.

 

[Durante]

I guess it turned out fine (except for the Tweeted crash) but those PCs don't look like they got any breathing room stuck in those tiny wooden cabinets. Why would you set them up like that

Well, at least the CPUs are watercooled.

Of all the things to use a PC case with a glass door, why would you use one for a box at E3..

That's certainly the most amusing part.

 

[The Cowboy]

I've no issue them demoing games on the PC (common practice), but its very strange that the card isn't AMD. In fact surely AMD would/should have requested/demanded that all demo units use AMD CPUS & GPUs right?.

Very weird to have a deal with AMD and then demo the games using Nvidia.

 

[Crisco]

Yeah, there is no way those things were running "virtual XBones". Certainly not on top of Windows 7 with just a normal desktop PC. These were plain old PCs running PC code. Not unprecedented but certainly deceptive and the argument that they were "spec'd to the XBone" is very shaky.

 

[coldfoot]

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Why?
I doubt the Xbone API at launch goes much lower level than DX11.1 already does.

 

[Durante]

Yeah, there is no way those things were running "virtual XBones". Certainly not on top of Windows 7 with just a normal desktop PC. These were plain old PCs running PC code. Not unprecedented but certainly deceptive and the argument that they were "spec'd to the XBone" is very shaky.

Yeah, I agree that this is by far the most likely explanation.

 

[RK9039]

PC games confirmed at E3?!

 

[charsace]

Corsair 650D + H60 + high end motherboard =/= MS emulator.

That's a custom rig.

well an emulator is software so any rig that has the power to run it can run it? there are emulators for android hardware for development. i would think a high spec PC would be needed to emulate an x1.

 

[Durante]

PC games confirmed at E3?!

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/07/pc-gaming-e3s-dirty-little-secret/

 

[Caayn]

Yeah, there is no way those things were running "virtual XBones". Certainly not on top of Windows 7 with just a normal desktop PC. These were plain old PCs running PC code. Not unprecedented but certainly deceptive and the argument that they were "spec'd to the XBone" is very shaky.

HyperV says hi!

 

[Ploid 3.0]

Said yet?

Could it be that the pc is just a developer environment that is needed to run beta or debug builds. There seems to be a secondary box in each stand with a cable running to the pc.

Hmmm nice, I didn't see those small boxes. All and all though, this doesn't matter. We'll find out sooner or later how smooth the games run compared to their E3 demos. I'd wager that a good amount of us aren't even interested in the box so this is just for the sake of discussing and trying to figure things out. Sleuthing if you will, getting a scoop.

 

[TheGreyHulk]

So much for "games were running on a PC w/ comparable specs"

the gpu on the xbone is super weak in comparison to a GTX 780 or even a 680.

You would think they would use a radeon 7870 as that's still much more powerful than the 7790 level gpu in the xbone

 

[Sethos]

Come one, come all! See two posters on NeoGAF who have no idea what they're talking about!

GDDR5 =/= DDR3

DDR3 is clearly superior.

 

[MrCunningham]

Haha it it being liquid cooled aswell?

Looks like the corsair logo on the CPU

Maybe they are being water cooled to keep fan noise down during the show? Or perhaps to insure that they won't cause overheating problems on the show room floor?

PC games confirmed at E3?!

*Dolan_E3_was_all_PC_games.jpg*

 

[Gestault]

Any word on what the second "box" accompanying each PC tower is? They appear to be wired into each other.

Also, "enhance" on original

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Why?
I doubt the Xbone API at launch goes much lower level than DX11.1 already does.

Maybe I misunderstood your point. I thought you were making the point that a much, much better GPU was negated by access to lower level APIs.

 

[Clevinger]

Making the game look better than it actually will at launch.

I wonder if that isn't true. Mainly because the video demo they had of Ryse looked really damn good graphically. Like, really impressive. And then someone (MS? Crytek?) released some screenshots of the actual game and it looked much, much worse with really faded out colors and not at all impressive.

I guess we'll find out soon.

 

[Polymath]

This probably explains why Microsoft always referred it to "In engine".
This way people couldn't even sue them for this because all they did is run the xbox one games from a PC with either the engine or some sort of emulator....

Always found it weird how MS made these kind of statements where as Sony just clearly said " Running live on playstation 4"

 

[Portugeezer]

Windows 7 and NVIDIA.

Doesn't get much more anti-Xbone than that.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

Hahah, would have been a nice first post.

Yeah. Unfortunately, I was powered by the cloud

 

[rohlfinator]

Oh man, how are they going to code to the metal when they don't even have the right metal?

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Yeah, there is no way those things were running "virtual XBones". Certainly not on top of Windows 7 with just a normal desktop PC. These were plain old PCs running PC code. Not unprecedented but certainly deceptive and the argument that they were "spec'd to the XBone" is very shaky.

They have to be spec'd to X1 because that demo station is for LocoCycle. Its a X1/360 game.

Unless you're trying to suggest Turn 10 and others built out full one time use pc versions of their games.

 

[charsace]

I wonder if that isn't true. Mainly because the video demo they had of Rhyse looked really damn good graphically. And then someone (MS? Crytek?) released some screenshots of the actual game and it looked much, much worse with really faded out colors.

I guess we'll find out soon.

ryse is one of the few games people saw running on an x1.

 

[komaruR]

quick! some1 reverse engineer xbox gaming os to emulate it on win7 pc!

 

[Osiris]

I have a Titan, looks like I'm set if that's the case. But looking at it closer, the way it looks is not like a Titan. Definitely looks like a GTX 680.

versus.

That's definitely a GTX 680, and not the GTX 700 series or Titan.

Its a 780, not a 680:

 

[DBT85]

How has this thread, the third on the subject got more replies than all the others? Oh, the title.

 

[KillerTravis]

I think Xbox One games will look just fine.

 

[140.85]

Related?:

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/06/i-got-thrown-in-microsoft-jail-for-taking-pictures-of-nothing/

So, after being at the party a while, getting my chance to try the game, chasing down the girl with the fancy hot dog tray and drinking more gin, I began to wonder about what they were running all these demos on, since I didn’t see a single Xbox One. All the wires just led under tables and into cabinets.

So, they were hiding the actual hardware, which I figured was probably some dev Xbox One units or something. And I’m curious. I wondered what these units looked like, so I decided to peek behind one of the cabinets. It was dark, so I took a couple quick photos with my flash so I could see.

What I saw was profoundly underwhelming. Just a laptop and a bunch of wires. I was just about to forget about the pictures entirely and find the guy who walked by with the raw tuna somethings when a massive goon packed into a fancy suit approached me.

“You need to come with me, sir,” he said.

 

[VanquishUK]

Titan only has 6GB, the Xbox One is sporting 8 and is clearly superior. So I don't see why people need to make such a fuss, it's a slightly worse GPU.

Lol.

 

[tafer]

Making the game look better than it actually will at launch.

Ugh... can you imagine if this actually happens.

Or that the difference between the PS4 and the X1 is bigger than expected.

 

[androvsky]

Any word on what the second "box" accompanying each PC tower is? They appear to be wired into each other.

Looks like a UPC or power conditioner, actually.

 

[Windom Earle]

Any word on what the second "box" accompanying each PC tower is? They appear to be wired into each other.



Also, "enhance" on original

Need to keep a steady flow of secret sauce.

 

[RE_Player]

Has it come out yet how much RAM is set aside for games with the Xbox One.

 

[Struct09]

Since it appears to be LocoCycle, I'm going to guess they are just Twisted Pixel's dev boxes (not dev kits). This kind of thing isn't uncommon at trade shows.

 

[PFD]

It doesn't look like a development kit. It looks like a PC with Windows environment.

Pretty sure someone reported seeing a demo crash to windows 7, so yeah.

Edit: beaten 5 pages ago, lol

 

[Osiris]

Has it come out yet how much RAM is set aside for games with the Xbox One.

Yes, 5GB for games, 3GB reserved for the O/S.

 

[Crisium]

Its a 780, not a 680:

Notice the silver on the 780. That is nowhere to be found in the PC pic. It is a 680.

 

[TheD]

I think they are runing virtualized xbone sdk on these pc. thats y they are using high end gfx card because they are emulating games

Virtualization =! emulation!

You would not need such a powerful card to match a the xbone.


The most likely answer is that it is a windows build of the game running.

 

[diehard]

Windows 7 and NVIDIA.

Doesn't get much more anti-Xbone than that.

A Windows kernel and DirectX API are anti-Xbone?

 

[Terbinator]

It's a 670 at worst. It isn't illuminated so i can't see it being anything from the 7xx range (or a 690).

So it's a 670 or 680 - you'd imagine the latter.