Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]
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Haha, now that would have been anticlimactic. "Thanks for setting up the stage for us! ...and we're done."
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
I would like everyone to remember this series when they complain about game balance in IH, IHL, etc. Sometimes shit just goes south.
Alliance was clearly stacked by final and hongaf.
shira
Member
Can't believe how many times AC said monster, well at least there isn't a champagne bottle
game was stacked against quantic; we need to reform dreamhack and the entire competitive scene, cancel all tournaments, let's just have small scrim leagues until we can eliminate the stacks. CM is also too tryhard and makes people sad, let's see some reverse captain's mode TI3
Where are my buddies ikuu, guesong, and bluemax? They will find more flaws than I can and expose this fraudulent tournament.
Perfect.
I still think someone with Source Filmmaker talent needs to make a "Can't Stop the Rock" video about Warlock and his golem.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Just had a miserable game. In the first minute our Sniper dies top to their trilane, specifically Shadow Demon. He then teleports down and says, I kid you not:
"can't farm up there"
"sven go top"
When we go "uh...you want to replace Sniper in a rough lane with Sven?"
"fuck u"
"muted"
"fuck u"
"can't farm up there"
"sven go top"
When we go "uh...you want to replace Sniper in a rough lane with Sven?"
"fuck u"
"muted"
"fuck u"
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
There's a reason Wisp is so fucking scary.
With his recent buffs timber is pretty beast
If he can get quick levels he can wreck everything. 3 pure damage nukes is nothing to laugh at
I hope we see him played more competitively
shira
Member
They won every game except for the Fnatic game at Dreamhack with either Tree or OD.
All 2 games OD and tree were first phase bans they lost
Just reading this makes me want to hit things. I've stopped playing Dota since I have no one to play it with here in Australia, and solo queuing has lost 100% of its appeal to me. Can't wait to hit up those NA servers again.
You'll feel the same way no matter the game he plays.
How is one supposed to play Warlock?
I play it quite often when playing with my friend, but not sure about what is a good build actually. Usually i pick Shadow Word and Fatal Bonds first.
But just a moment ago it occurred to me that wouldn't it be better to take Fatal Bonds and Upheaval, start a battle with Fatal Bonds and then cast Upheaval to prevent the enemies from running?
I'm not good at gauging when to use Shadow Word for healing and when for damage.
I play it quite often when playing with my friend, but not sure about what is a good build actually. Usually i pick Shadow Word and Fatal Bonds first.
But just a moment ago it occurred to me that wouldn't it be better to take Fatal Bonds and Upheaval, start a battle with Fatal Bonds and then cast Upheaval to prevent the enemies from running?
I'm not good at gauging when to use Shadow Word for healing and when for damage.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Upheavel...eh, its nice, but its really situational. Skill it if you have a hero who can take advantage of it, but if you don't expect significant early kills in your lane then stick to the Bonds-Word build. If you're laning with a carry I'd definitly max word first to give them more lane presence.
The way I usually build Warlock is to start going for Refresher as soon as I get a Ring, buying wards along the way. Double Warlock ult is ri-goddamn-diculous.
I see. Requires a bit of teamwork, a teambattle perhaps?
I'll try to remember to build for Refresher, not that i ever get past core items in matches. Die a bit too much.
TouchMyBox
Member
Does anybody else's Dota 2 crash to desktop 1-2 times a day with no errors or anything since one of the patches last week?
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
There's actually quite a few things you can complete solely at the side shop.
I think Vertopci has this problem as well
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
The thing is...Upheaval just isn't that good :/ I mean, I guess you can use it to gank if they don't see you coming, but in teamfights its really not that good. I keep trying to think of when it would be useful but all I'm coming back to is early-game kills. I might skill it early if I was laning with a Juggurnaut for example.
Usually in teamfights I throw it out as an afterthought because after Bond, Golem, and a Word on somebody I have nothing else to do
Reminds me of my matches. That is, if i ain't dead by that point.
EDIT i swear Bounty Hunters, Riki and others are fixated on me.
EDIT If DOTA 2 has one big flaw (aside from good tutorials), it is that the matches are too long. I'd prefer something that is about 30min at most.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
The thing about Upheaval is it's a channel, not a targeted AoE like Midnight Pulse or the like. So you just sit there motionless, as a sitting duck, so long as the spell goes on. Your movement (even if just to distract) and right clicks are going to be more useful in the vast majority of cases, unless you have someone who can really take advantage of slowed targets like a Lycanthrope.
Upheaval is really good, its just really awkward to use, mostly due to Warlock's cast animations and his ranges. Most people end up casting his Golem at max range, which then requires warlock to then walk for 1.5 seconds to get close enough to start using Upheaval. Ideally, you want to Golem/Bond/Upheaval, getting both spells off during the stun time, but they are in decreasing cast range, going 1200/800/700, so what happens most of the time is you are lucky if you get bonds off before they scatter.
Technosteve
Banned
blink dagger warlock? you know what i'm going to pub this out as research
Gully State
Member
Why not force staff instead? Since he doesn't need to be that close to drop golem.
I noted above that this games matches are a bit long (along with bad tutorials), but one additional big negative occurred to me: This game is hard to play casually, just a game every now and then. Especially if you don't read about strategies and other stuff... but i guess that is a problem for all games with heavy eSports focus.
Top-rated Warlock guide on DOTAFire includes a Warlock build with Blink Dagger as core. Never tried it myself; Force Staff sounds better.
Technosteve
Banned
gunna play him like tidehunter
You do have something to do, micro the golem!
If we'd be talking about me, i wouldn't have to do that either. For some reason i get to games where the enemies have a lot of anti-summon attacks and spells...
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