They finally want to play Mario without having to buy some Nintendo hardware. But that won't happen.
Nintendo's Iwata: "I don't recall saying I'd resign."
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Mysterious
Banned
Isn't the 3DS only "massively" successful in Japan, and not performing up to Nintendo's expectations overseas?
I don't recall seeing killer hardware unit sales in either NPD or the European tracker.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
(Just get rid of the Direct bit)
AC is doing well... not sure about HW I havent been keeping track
m.i.s.
Banned
Not in the West it isn't - sales are pretty much flat year-on-year. It should be in it's growth phase. And it's slowing down in Japan too.
And the Wii was never Iwata's idea anyway. Considering the Wii was trending ahead of PS2 sales at one point, Iwata seriously dropped the ball. Japan's Wii market was certainly the weakest link but it slowed seriously in the West too.
chertipros
Member
So did Kaz Hirai
Its still selling very well in the west, not sure why you'd need to downplay that. It was leading in last months NPD sales also
DeaconKnowledge
Member
That's not how market share works.
Why do people think a new CEO is going to change that?
w1gglyjones
Member
"Oh, you seem to misunderstand me. You see... I have no intention of resigning."
*claps twice*
Amazing.
Pokemon is really going to help a lot imo, I feel like X&Y are going to be the highest selling games in the series, possibly by a large margin.
Wondering if the global release will have any effect on sales, positive or negtive.
If you could elaborate more that would be great- I'm not a business guy at all. Is it realistic to meet the 100b yen goal with good 3DS sales and decent Wii U sales?
(Just get rid of the Direct bit)
...and the 3D Mario bit while you're at it. This jif is awesome. It's referential subject matter reveal was not.
Mysterious
Banned
Um no. That was Ken Kutaragi, who was "promoted" to "honorary chairman" and has since left the company.
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you werent satisfied enough with the other thread fights?
I really doubt the people who want him to resign really care about Nintendo's future. They want Iwata and Reggie fired just because. I even read someone from Europe say Reggie needs to be fired ASAP when he has absolutely nothing to do with NOE.
Just because it was unexpected doesn't mean it wasn't awesome.
It's only "massively" successful in Japan, yes. However, that in no way means it's doing badly in America or Europe. It's doing well, not amazing, but well
w1gglyjones
Member
Answer is yes: realistic. Actual Wii U sales target is unlikely though. Don't have the time right now, sorry. Match them up - they are in order, separated by spaces. Please understand.
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Operating profit in millions of year:
4,310 22,702 20,592 16,641 20,701 41,508 45,768 48,412 63,994 65,168 137,914 147,542 159,296 103,711 94,955 71,939 65,088 127,753 156,162 145,030 84,697 119,151 100,120 107,683 111,522 90,349 226,024 487,220 555,263 356,567 171,076 -37,320 -36,410
A few things to help them reach that goal:
Earthbound U
Pokemon MMO
Zelda U
Metroid U
My bad ass idea Nintendo can have for free:
The Legend of Nintendo - A game where Mario is the main character, exploring a zelda-like world filled with various Nintendo characters. You have all these great recognizable IP's and characters... I think exploring a giant Nintendo open world would be fucking awesome.
Theyve had zero innovation lately.. I feel like they need to take a risk with something brand new.
Earthbound U
Pokemon MMO
Zelda U
Metroid U
My bad ass idea Nintendo can have for free:
The Legend of Nintendo - A game where Mario is the main character, exploring a zelda-like world filled with various Nintendo characters. You have all these great recognizable IP's and characters... I think exploring a giant Nintendo open world would be fucking awesome.
Theyve had zero innovation lately.. I feel like they need to take a risk with something brand new.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
DS had pretty horrific launch period too, which people tend to forget. The early 2005 NPDs were brutal.
Really, Wii was the only launch of Iwata's that hit the ground running and was an unqualified success out the gates.
shinra-bansho
Member
Nintendo posted an operating profit of around 170B yen in FY10/11.
In that year they sold 17.5M NDS and 121M in corresponding software. They also sold 15M Wiis and 171M in Wii software. At that stage in the systems' lives I would assume the hardware was highly profitable.
Even if they were to meet their forecasts for this fiscal year for the 3DS and Wii U, and they won't, I really don't see how they'd reach that operating profit forecast.
Spieler Eins
Member
I'd like to see another CEO because the WiiU just had it's third E3 and it's outlook is still shitty. And clearly, problems are rooted deeply within a mishandling of their teams and apparently a complete lack of future proof by Iwata last gen. WiiU is a lost case anyway, but I'd like another good console by Nintendo next gen again. And with him calling the shots, that's not gonna happen anymore. The sole knowledge of handling a handheld in Japan isn't enough.
Oh completely agreed. The fact that it wasn't awesome meant that it wasn't awesome.
chertipros
Member
Kaz replaced Ken Kutaragi right after the ps3's launch. The ps3 moneysink and the PS vita failure all happened under him
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Since Luigi's Mansion 2 it's been having a great run in the UK, I know that much. And that won't slow down with Zelda and Pokemon coming out.
again what does any of this has to do with Sony?
5 fucking months of great game releases back to back on the system this year is considered a shitty outlook.
Wow, you're a fucking trip
newshinycd
Member
Goddamn. Operating profit? That seems a little far-fetched. Maybe you mean gross profit? That would make sense. Nintendo made 1.8 Billion USD for FY12.
Edit: Nevermind, financial analysis fail. I haven't had my morning coffee :<
Who would you recommend then? Someone from within Nintendo? An outsider from the West? Give me some realistic options.
I suspect that Iwata might be as good as it gets given Nintendo's corporate culture.
Spieler Eins
Member
5 months of games that look like they could have easily been on their last gen hardware and still don't offer any reasons to pay additional 100$ for that gamepad.
Mysterious
Banned
How did the PS3 moneysink happen under him, when the system's architecture (CELL!) and development of launch window titles were already underway by the time Kaz got to SCEI? He tried to salvage it into something consumers would want (with the PS3 Slim/rebranding), which is something Iwata should do.
I can read better jokes at Gamefaqs.
phosphor112
Banned
Unless you're including the sinking ship he inherited from Kutaragi (PS3), and then later Stringer (Sony), as he had no part in the larger policies or design of the PS3, that is a blatant lie.
m.i.s.
Banned
Yes, the sheer financial numbers are heavily stacked against him.
Well, whatever, this statement sounds like damage limitation. ie He doesn't want his future position in NoA to look like a demotion from his position of president of NCL.
Spieler Eins
Member
What joke? Wonderful101 looks like the only game this year that isn't a straight copy from a previous game.
chertipros
Member
The poster I replied to initially said that Iwata should be fired because he lost Nintendo some market share. Kaz Hirai did the same exact thing and has since gotten promoted to CEO of the entire company. I just wanted to point out how unrealistic getting fired from such a high position because of losing market share this early in the generation was