NSA reportedly bugged European Union offices in Washington DC, the UN, and abroad

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NSA reportedly bugged European Union offices in Washington DC, the UN, and abroad

According to a "top secret" National Security Agency (NSA) document, the US bugged the offices of European Union member state offices in Washington and at the UN and gained access to computer networks used at those locations. The latest report revealing spy activities by the NSA comes from German news magazine Der Spiegel, which says it saw parts of documents in whistleblower Edward Snowden's possession. Snowden was also behind leaks that revealed the NSA's massive PRISM program, designed to spy on internet users, as well as documents that shed light on the British government's involvement in the program.

"Europeans called out as a "target""

Today's leak, according to the Der Spiegel report, reveals that NSA efforts to spy on European Union representatives in the US granted access to conversations as well as emails and other documents stored on computers used at locations in Washington and the United Nations. Europeans were apparently specifically mentioned as a target in the source document, which is dated from September of 2010. The spying methods resemble those reportedly used by the British at the 2009 G20 Summit in London, which saw the UK's Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) tap into phones and computers used by heads of state. That surveillance campaign was uncovered by a separate Snowden leak earlier this month.

In addition to NSA efforts to listen in on EU representatives in the US, the agency is said to have spied on telecommunications at the Justus Lipsius building in Brussels (pictured above), where the Council of the European Union sits. EU member states have offices at the building with internet connections and phone lines, and it's presumed that the NSA tapped into at least some of those communications. It's not clear if this information comes from the same document, but Der Spiegel reports that five years ago security officers at the Justus Lipsius building traced some missed calls to NSA offices at a NATO building in Brussels.
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/29/4477646/nsa-reportedly-bugged-european-union-offices
 
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Wait, I didn't think Snowden had anything to do with the UK's G8 spying article.

This one is probably guesswork, because Snowden hasn't released anything to Germany yet.
 
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Kad5

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The Intelligence Community is out of line. With that being said this is to be expected. This is the point of the NSA's existence unfortunately.
 
empty vessel

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delirium said:
And I'm pretty sure that EU countries aren't spying on American politicians. * roll eyes *
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While every nation obviously has intelligence bureaus that collect information on foreign countries, it is not necessarily the case that every country goes to equally great lengths in its spying operations. There is reason to believe the US goes well beyond European nations in its spying operations. Except maybe the UK, who it always seems to be partnering with.
 
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Yeah countries spy on each other, even allies, though they're usually much nicer about it.

Look Europe. Just accept that we're Batman and we have to keep an eye on you just in case we need to take you down. You know, in case you get attacked by mind control or magic or something. We're still bros, we just have to plan for everything. You understand.
 
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hym

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You need to understand this is for your security, we can't let these EU and UN terrorists attack civilians.
 
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Averon

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Even allies spy on each other. I have no doubt the British and French have bugged American offices here and abroad.
 
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empty vessel said:
While every nation obviously has intelligence bureaus that collect information on foreign countries, it is not necessarily the case that every country goes to equally great lengths in its spying operations. There is reason to believe the US goes well beyond European nations in its spying operations. Except maybe the UK, who it always seems to be partnering with.
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Well obviously the US has a much bigger intelligence apparatus than the average European nation. It's a superpower and has interests worldwide.
 
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Guess its time for the gov to start publishing negative shit about Der Spiegel so people can forgive this.
 
Trojita

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This is actually way less shocking then them spying on their own citizens.

EVERY country spies on every other country. America is just in partnerships to share data with other countries that we also spy on.
 
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Trojita said:
This is actually way less shocking then them spying on their own citizens.

EVERY country spies on every other country. America is just in partnerships to share data with other countries that we also spy on.
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Bingo. There's no surpises here. And with the Patriot Act, people shouldn't be so surprised with PRISM either.
 
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dan2026 said:
Random question.

Does the name 'Patriot Act' disturb anyone else.

It conjures up creepy images for me.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/29/european-private-data-america

At least six European Union countries in addition to Britain have been colluding with the US over the mass harvesting of personal communications data, according to a former contractor to America's National Security Agency, who said the public should not be "kept in the dark".

Wayne Madsen, a former US navy lieutenant who first worked for the NSA in 1985 and over the next 12 years held several sensitive positions within the agency, names Denmark, the Netherlands, France, Germany, Spain and Italy as having secret deals with the US.

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Madsen said he was alarmed at the "sanctimonious outcry" of political leaders who were "feigning shock" about the spying operations while staying silent about their own arrangements with the US, and was particularly concerned that senior German politicians had accused the UK of spying when their country had a similar third party deal with the NSA.
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I'm not saying it's true, but these are interesting allegations.

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It's a bs article.
 
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We have defense forces for everything on neogaf.

akira28 said:
Yeah countries spy on each other, even allies, though they're usually much nicer about it.

Look Europe. Just accept that we're Batman and we have to keep an eye on you just in case we need to take you down. You know, in case you get attacked by mind control or magic or something. We're still bros, we just have to plan for everything. You understand.
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Thanks Big Brother.
 
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Ok. Now that this is revealed, I hope the countries of the world will react accordingly, which means hardening security and spying the shit out of the USA.

akira28 said:
Yeah countries spy on each other, even allies, though they're usually much nicer about it.

Look Europe. Just accept that we're Batman and we have to keep an eye on you just in case we need to take you down. You know, in case you get attacked by mind control or magic or something. We're still bros, we just have to plan for everything. You understand.
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Batman doesn't kill innocent people and does not commit acts of terrorism. The USA is definitely NOT Batman.
 
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