They still got it.
Sony and MS are going as far as integrating streaming into their systems!
Don't have the game?
Watch the game.
Buy game.
Nintendo of America not allowing SSBM to be streamed at EVO [Up: Decision Reversed]
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They still got it.
Sony and MS are going as far as integrating streaming into their systems!
Don't have the game?
Watch the game.
Buy game.
Dion Blaster
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#FuckOffNintendo
direct_quote
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I hope enough people blow up Nintendo twitter and Facebook so they reconsider...there's still a little time after all. I wonder if Nintendo wanted to run their own ads or something like that (like with youtube let's plays). Overall a really dumb PR move because even though EVO is a pretty big event, the backlash for not allowing evo to be streamed will be greater than the SSB series being shown in a "not Nintendo family friendly" way.
MOTHER FUCKING PROFIT!
Bitmap Frogs
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Augemitbutter
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more importantly, did they really consider not streaming KOF? or did the schedule just change?
Last I read, he wasn't interested in appealing to the competitive market because it didn't matter. Looks like there's a new interview saying that he's looking to the middle ground. I guess we'll ultimately see, but we all know what they were trying to do with Brawl.
I think they're just streaming more KOF.
equippedwithtowel
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It's a shame. Really, Nintendo does not even need the smallest amount of bad PR. Hardcore fans are virtually the only group they have right now for Wii U that might even be the slightest bit interest and they're doing something that could only alienate them.
I really, really hope Nintendo begins to change their ways before it's too late for anything to be salvaged from this gen.
I really, really hope Nintendo begins to change their ways before it's too late for anything to be salvaged from this gen.
Chie Satonaka
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The pokemon company is a subsidiary of Nintendo formed by Nintendo?
who cares? there's tons of other examples showing why nintendo doesn't value just the 4 year old and grandmas - the accusation is so ridiculous that it shouldn't exist at all. just today they announced a promo today for Fire Emblem (a nintendo game) and SMT. who do you think that was for?
Augemitbutter
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crisis averted.
APZonerunner
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Usually, yes, but in this case, this is a fallacy. If you boycott the Wii U and Smash Bros U, Nintendo will perceive a problem with the game itself (which there may well be, but let's say it ends up striking a perfect balance between Brawl and Melee for the sake of argument) rather than with this stuff.
Community handling and after care are things that don't directly effect sales (as much). The more powerful route is to cause some strong public discourse that could in turn cause a wider group of people to pass on the game.
There aren't after the 100k hardcore market, they are after the 5 million casual market.
The sooner people start to realise this, the easier it is to understand all this.
EmCeeGramr
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Sakurai is just trying to go where the wind blows. Nintendo in 2006-2008 was all about family friendly gaming for everyone, and Sakurai was open about Brawl's direction specifically being tailored towards that philosophy. Nintendo tries to say that they're for everyone, both casual and hardcore, in 2010-2013 and Sakurai talks about how SSBU will seek a middle ground.
Whiskeymatt
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This is the top news on most gaming subreddits now, for what that's worth. It's not going by unnoticed.
Mysterious
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Apparently for both of our mothers.
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Very much agreed.
Bayonetta means nothing.
Bayonetta is a charity case exclusive that was handed to them when people had delusions of Wii numbers in their eyes. Nintendo and Nintendo fans think that it will have a far bigger impact than reality will display.
And I guarantee that Sega and Inaba right now are regretting every moment of the situation they are in with the title.
But the people who are saying just kids and grandmas are being idiots.
If you mix in the strong public discourse in with the boycott of the system/games, I'm not exactly sure why Nintendo would still perceive the fault of the lack of sales be with the game itself.
Iwata should stamp his foot down, convince Miyamoto to create his own team and move on from the Board and then promptly pay off the rest of the old men with big fat pensions.
The old people need to go.
Agreed. Because Nintendo has their head in the sand with most stuff regarding communities, they need to be told that this isn't okay.
I really wish Nintendo had a booth at comic-con because I would RUN (not walk) to the front of the QA line and demand an answer for this shit.
But guess what? Casuals aren't going to easily come back to them like they had with the Wii. They moved on.
Nintendo had a chance to get the hardcore back, & right now, they're easily squandering it.
And the sooner Nintendo realizes that you hit the 5 million casual market by winning over the 100K taste-maker market, the sooner they can start being competitive in western markets.
bodyboarder
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But why would the want to turn away possibly 100k customers. A sale is a sale.
Killa Sasa
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I'm going to the damn tourney, not for Melee but still, and I'm just smh.
Deserve every bit of vitriol pointed at em right now. It's weird to see such a large company just not have a clue (or is it :/).
Deserve every bit of vitriol pointed at em right now. It's weird to see such a large company just not have a clue (or is it :/).
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There's an obvious thinking flaw here in that they don't consider that many of those people are brand advocates. They're the people who'd invite friends to play in dorms, at their house, and would organize local events. They're the early adopters that in part drive more people to pick up the console because they had fun with it at a friend's house, or because a close friend can't stop talking out it in real life, on twitter, facebook or etc. Network effects lead to a broader adoption. A lot of casuals look for purchasing advice from that crowd.
Carpe Libertatem
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Why should Sega and Inaba care? They get paid either way. It's not like Nintendo is withholding money based on sales (but if it sells well, more money for Inaba and Platinum)
Also, his point about Bayontta is not about having an impact, it's that Nintendo does care about people outside the casual market. Because if they didn't, they wouldn't have funded Bayonetta 2.
InsaneZero
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And that's gone so well for them thus far in this generation. How many WiiU's did Nintendo sell this month?
This. While I'm not a big fan of "competitive smash" (I feel the chaotic elements that tend to get banned by the scene add to the game and your reaction to it makes you a better player), being able to play Smash the way you want to is what makes it such a great game. Doing this alienates the most vocal part of the base, and will potentially keep them from buying the next game and dropping support of future entries (they'll just keep playing Melee).
Besides, this is the game that had a built-in tournament mode! If you don't want us to play tourneys, then don't put it in there.
-COOLIO-
The Everyman
they already lost the casual market though. the wiiu's only chance to keep afloat is hardcore nintendo fans.
That is true actually, Sega had written it off completely.
Mysterious
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To be honest, your repeated insistence over defending every single move Nintendo has ever made shocks me.
If it sells (which it will due to the dearth of games on the WiiU), it'll be a tidy source of profit for Nintendo, which Sega will miss out on.
Of course, if Sega was going to publish this game, it would be multiplat and would have to go up against the fall line up and new consoles across the entire board, so it would be a much different playing field.
Sega is not regretting their decision. I just feel bad for platinum. Out of bed with a lazy publisher to get in bed with...a lazy publisher.
So in other words, they're essentially getting nobody with this move? :3
Chie Satonaka
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They arent getting the 5 million casual markets so they better start taking care of their 100k markets
The sooner nintendo start to realize this, the better
Carpe Libertatem
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What am I defending here? Pointing out that saying Inaba and Sega would "regret" letting Nintendo give them money is a stupid thing to say?
HOLY SHIT ARE WE BACK!?!?!?!?!@?1?1