UFC 162: Silva vs. Weidman |OT| God or Fraud

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185 is just not a very good division and Weidman is unquestionably the best after Silva. It's not Weidman's or Silva's fault, but there just aren't very many fun fights to be made with the dregs that make up the rest of the division.

Belfort: I don't think even a roided Belfort could handle Weidman. Weidman is actually a really smart fighter and would just weather the initial blitz and basically finish Belfort any way he wanted in R3-4.
Okami: This is actually kind of an interesting matchup even though the fight would suck from a watchability POV. Weidman just feels like a much better version of Okami, but I'm not sure he could finish him. Thankfully Dana hates Okami so we'll never see this fight.
Bisping: Not sure how he is even coming up in the discussion after what Vitor did to him. Dan Hardy Effect I guess. Might be interesting to see if Weidman could finish him. I'd say he could, but there's a chance Bisping could hang on to lose a boring 30-25 by playing completely defensively (a la Hardy in the GSP fight).
Jacare: The best personality out of all these guys so fun from that perspective, but becomes paralyzed and almost Kennedy-like when fighting top competition. And unlike Kennedy, Weidman has the tools to 30-25 Jacare in such a fight.

The rest aren't even worth discussing. Hoping for a rematch so it gives time for a true challenger to emerge.

Be fair, Bisping normally goes to very close decisions with wrestlers.

You know, apart from that one time.
 
Weidman has had some of the more brutal and memorable finishes of the past couple years. Silva and Munoz were great KOs, and Sakara was an absolute bloodbath. I guess he looks like a generic white guy so it's easy to forget.
 
I'm actually shocked at the disbelief of Weidman's abilities and the talk of Anderson throwing the fight. I'll agree his heart may not be into it anymore but to intentionally throw a fight? There is no way he would do that if he wanted to go back to Brazil (and live). And to the people that think Andy faked the knockout, that's some pretty good acting to bounce the back of your head off the mat. He deserves a Oscar.
 
I'm actually shocked at the disbelief of Weidman's abilities and the talk of Anderson throwing the fight. I'll agree his heart may not be into it anymore but to intentionally throw a fight? There is no way he would do that if he wanted to go back to Brazil (and live). And to the people that think Andy faked the knockout, that's some pretty good acting to bounce the back of your head off the mat. He deserves a Oscar.
Seriously. Some people in this thread are acting a fucking fool.

Can't lie though, it's entertaining as hell.
 
I'm actually shocked at the disbelief of Weidman's abilities and the talk of Anderson throwing the fight. I'll agree his heart may not be into it anymore but to intentionally throw a fight? There is no way he would do that if he wanted to go back to Brazil (and live). And to the people that think Andy faked the knockout, that's some pretty good acting to bounce the back of your head off the mat. He deserves a Oscar.

No one is saying he faked the KO. He wouldve had to just took 1 legit shot to put him out. Maybe he didn't want to lose but he didn't mind it either which is why he fought like a moron putting on a show for the fans.
 
How does MMA-GAF get away with being blatant assholes to one another? I feel like the insults being thrown around in these threads would result in bans elsewhere.

Unfortunately its something that happens in other sports threads too, the NHL GAF thread is pretty crazy to read. It probably happens in other ones too.
 
Jacare's gonna be built as the guy to take the belt from Wildman, that's the narrative going forward. and unlike Vitoroid, he can fight outside of Brazil.

after Jacare armbars Wildman in spectacular fashion, the build-up to Jacare vs Musashi 2 begins.

watch out for dem diving superman punches, Jacare.

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From what i heard from people who watch ufc from a long time, I REALLY doubt Dana White would want a brazilian to take the belt from Wieldman =P

I'm actually shocked at the disbelief of Weidman's abilities and the talk of Anderson throwing the fight. I'll agree his heart may not be into it anymore but to intentionally throw a fight? There is no way he would do that if he wanted to go back to Brazil (and live). And to the people that think Andy faked the knockout, that's some pretty good acting to bounce the back of your head off the mat. He deserves a Oscar.

It is more the problem of how much "his heart not be into it" is trowing the fight ..... if he didn't trained that much because "fuck this shit" is trowing a fight ? Or is just the "I pay you to dive in the second round" stuff called trowing the fight ?

And a friend said an interesting point to the "why he didn't tapped" : They receive punches like those all the time in the training =P
 
if sloppiness and laziness and training are considered throwing fights then i don't know if anderson's ever won a legit fight himself
 
power? certainly. technique? debatable.

Not really, Weidman has outstruck every opponent he's faced even if you disregard the knockouts. Bisping has been outstruck by every high-level opponent he's faced (not many) and made several lifelong cans look surprisingly competent at times.
 
From what i heard from people who watch ufc from a long time, I REALLY doubt Dana White would want a brazilian to take the belt from Wieldman =P

nah, it's set in stone.

here's the storyline going forward:

- Jacare subs Okami
- Mousasi drops to MW, beats Rockhold
- Wildman defends vs Vitoroid
- Jacare subs/decisions Bisping
- Mousasi beats Vitoroid
- Jacare takes the belt from Wildman
- Jacare vs Mousasi 2 for the belt
 
nah, it's set in stone.

here's the storyline going forward:

- Jacare subs Okami
- Mousasi drops to MW, beats Rockhold
- Wildman defends vs Vitoroid
- Jacare subs/decisions Bisping
- Mousasi beats Vitoroid
- Jacare takes the belt from Wildman
- Jacare vs Mousasi 2 for the belt

Bro. Retire with grace.
 
No one is saying he faked the KO. He wouldve had to just took 1 legit shot to put him out. Maybe he didn't want to lose but he didn't mind it either which is why he fought like a moron putting on a show for the fans.

Maybe no one here is saying it. Unfortunately, there are many outside of gaf saying he purposely took the fall for whatever reason. Personally, I think Silva's antics stinks. Because of it, he has an excuse why he lost the fight and Weidman isn't getting due credit. To be fair, I don't think Silva is making that excuse up but his fans or the media are.
 
Maybe no one here is saying it. Unfortunately, there are many outside of gaf saying he purposely took the fall for whatever reason. Personally, I think Silva's antics stinks. Because of it, he has an excuse why he lost the fight and Weidman isn't getting due credit. To be fair, I don't think Silva is making that excuse up but his fans or the media are.
I enjoy Silva's antics because up until now they've worked and its part of why people think he's on some matrix shit, but I completely agree with the bolded part of your statement - its such a shame that a lot of people feel Weidman didn't win, Silva lost.

What stinks is that we probably won't see Anderson's crazy tactics again they were fun to watch though.

Even though I just got done saying I love his antics, I do think it would be very interesting to see what he could do to someone if he was 100% serious and just went right for the kill.

I forget, did he clown around at all when he fought Belfort?
 

And other than Irvin and Leben that was his fastest knockout. Interesting. Man what a difference in records there is between Silva and GSP. Silva has finished almost every single one of his fights in the UFC while GSP has finished 2 of 9 in his most recent stint as champion.
 
How does MMA-GAF get away with being blatant assholes to one another? I feel like the insults being thrown around in these threads would result in bans elsewhere.

Because the actual fights in MMA can't sate our taste for blood and the rest of GAF is probably better off letting us use our aggression on each other rather than release us in a George Zimmerman or MRA thread. PopGAF, FootyGAF, and PoliGAF are likewise best left to their own devices. It's the same reason you don't let the prison bus stop for a group piss break at Kroger.
 
doubt it.

Haters stay hatin da GOAT.

but Weidman'll get KO'd doe. We all know you Silva haters will think of any excuse to delegitimize this win even if he knocks him out in the first 5 seconds. Lets not play around here.

You realize that Silva doesn't have "haters" in the MMA-GAF community right? He finishes fights so even if he isn't a favorite he's still preferred to half of these fighters who point fight and blanket their opponent to boring wins. That's kind of the point behind the "Everyone is a Can" tagline.
 
You realize that Silva doesn't have "haters" in the MMA-GAF community right? He finishes fights so even if he isn't a favorite he's still preferred to half of these fighters who point fight and blanket their opponent to boring wins. That's kind of the point behind the "Everyone is a Can" tagline.

I agree friend. Let's not forget the prophetic OP of OT2.

There's a reason why Spider Silver is in the fighters section, Godamn Sleeping Pill is in the athletes, and Chael P Sonnen is in the entertainers.
 
Its basically the suburbia of NY. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Its just not as NY as other places (not counting upstate).


I grew up 30 minutes outside of NYC on Long Island. Like 10 minutes from Weidman. Its deff suburbia but at least you got some nice beaches, houses and you are right outside the city. Too bad the nightlife has gone to shit there in the past 6 years. Use to be really fun going out.
 
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Well alright then. One of these days I have to get the story on this.
 
I agree friend. Let's not forget the prophetic OP of OT2.

There's a reason why Spider Silver is in the fighters section, Godamn Sleeping Pill is in the athletes, and Chael P Sonnen is in the entertainers.
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I enjoy Silva's antics because up until now they've worked and its part of why people think he's on some matrix shit, but I completely agree with the bolded part of your statement - its such a shame that a lot of people feel Weidman didn't win, Silva lost.

I'm glad Silva lost and hope he loses some more to dispel any doubt among the die-hard fans that Weidman kicked his ass.

The hands-down dodging and weaving is one thing and not something I mind. It's legitimate technique -- he finally got caught and that's unfortunate. What I always disliked are the bullshit antics that had nothing to do with fighting -- the total disrespect he seems to have for just about everyone and the sport itself, treating it like it's a dumb joke, when so many other guys with similar success have been far humbler. No class, tact, humility, etc. Sincerity is easy to read on someone's face, and I always cringed watching Silva's super-fake nice guy routine, with the post-fight bowing and false modesty after moments earlier acting like a total piece of shit to his opponent. Ask anyone who's new to UFC/MMA: at first they think Anderson is this awesome Matrix ninja, but then they see the bullshit in several fights and the typical reaction is along the lines of "why is he being such a fucking asshole and not fighting serious and with some humility?" Great fighter, but completely horrible personality. Made it almost impossible to root for anyone in Silva vs. Sonnen.
 
Finally watched Anderson get knocked out as I was out of town. I was sill so happy even his lae and already seeing the GIFs. Guess we will no see old man Silva fight GSP. hahahaha. \

I predicted in his very thread Silva cocksruting, and it lead to his down fall. Soooo perfect!!!!!
 
Finally watched Anderson get knocked out as I was out of town. I was sill so happy even his lae and already seeing the GIFs. Guess we will no see old man Silva fight GSP. hahahaha. \

I predicted in his very thread Silva cocksruting, and it lead to his down fall. Soooo perfect!!!!!

Drunk GAF meets MMA Gaf?
 
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