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There's a petition for asking Microsoft To Bring Back Xbox One's DRM
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jayfrontz08
Banned
attention everyone attention everyone PLAYSTATION 4 that is all
QFT.
Conflict NZ
Member
They should provide all those benefits such as family sharing and trading in digital games to digital copies consumers buy anyway.
You didn´t do anything wrong, its just that I have the weird feeling that you wouldn´t make a thread about something silly from the Sony camp. Thats all, I´m not really complaining. Carry on^^
michaelius
Banned
Have Cliffy signed it already ?
There's nothing stopping an opt-in regime for exchanging/selling/lending/trading digital licenses.
Those kinds of ideas were not dependent on the kind of regime Microsoft was presenting. We've already had exploration into new digital models without that. The rigor of that regime was addressing another issue.
Those kinds of ideas were not dependent on the kind of regime Microsoft was presenting. We've already had exploration into new digital models without that. The rigor of that regime was addressing another issue.
What??
This has been shut down. It was full games.
I don't believe the iPhone or any other popular device has the restrictions imposed by Microsoft's proposed scheme.
You do realize that you can buy all your games online in the future DRM less Xbox One right?
TheUnsunghero26
Member
I think the handle "fuck-face" should tell all that needs to be said in this case.
You think that MS would remove the DRM based on abysmal preorders but then add it back because four people on the internet complained? I think people are so busy assuming the worst now that they're not actually bothering to portray MS's evil as consistent.
Playsation_
Banned
Yep, looks like Sony agents at work here.
Or
Just a very vocal minority.
Or
Just a very vocal minority.
Goodacre0081
Member
some people will always drink the kool-aid
I've asked the same question before, never got an answer. Peoples defence of Microsoft's proposed DRM seems to be built entirely on unrealistic assumptions. I haven't found a source that stated you could trade/sell game licenses bought on the Xbox Marketplace.
SmokinGunZ1981
Member
If it means I don't have to switch discs I'll sign it!
Trust me, I would. I'm waiting for them to slip up.
(The closest I got was that the led on the DS4 couldnt be turned off, I was beaten to the punch)
Because two people from MS said this AFTER the 180?? They can say whatever they want now because it is gone. Doesn't help that it was unclear bullshit before the 180 and they wouldn't clarify.
I am just saying take what you read on twitter with a grain of salt. Unless that is, you can show me point blank where MS said it was full games unrestricted without any of the vague PR speak.
Edit: and aren't you the guy who is always touting don't believe what companies are saying until it is set in stone??
Rawket Lawnchair
Member
All part of Mattrick's masterplan.
Microsoft wouldn't lie to us!
oh hey, that's a pretty good idea ;0
It was absolutely only disc-based games that could be resold or traded. Microsoft stated this explicitly.
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license
They have never made any mention of selling, gifting, or trading of digital games in any context, and made sure to always specify disc-based when referring to these services.
The family sharing on the other hand, made no mention of format, which seems to suggest it supported both disc and digital purchases. They did not go into near enough detail about how exactly that would work, but that's a whole separate topic.
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
Surely this has to be a troll by a Sony fan. I can't believe people would actually want to be restricted and would want this crap
The overlaying irony is people thinking that the DRM went away in the first place.
"We made MS remove the DRM!! We won!" No you didn't, what are you talking about, the DRM is right there, all over the discs and marketplaces, just like it always was. What, you didn't even notice recently when MS added their new DRM to the 360? Why weren't you up in arms over that? I mean, why do you think you can go to whatever Xbox on this planet, log in, retrieve your data and play your games on it just like that? Hokus Pokus..? But yeah, thanks, you just helped remove the one type of DRM that arguably would add some convenience to discless playing. So that means we can no longer go to the store to buy a game for the Xbox One, install it and throw away the disc - Because, yeah, exactly; it will have up the wazoo with DRM on it to prevent you from doing just that.
But of course the double irony is that when we soon are getting tired of acting like we care so much about consumer rights, this "DRM" will return at some point, we all know it. And not just to the Xbox One either but all platforms, probably before the end of the next cycle, and we'll all be like "ah, who cares, let's just play some games".
"We made MS remove the DRM!! We won!" No you didn't, what are you talking about, the DRM is right there, all over the discs and marketplaces, just like it always was. What, you didn't even notice recently when MS added their new DRM to the 360? Why weren't you up in arms over that? I mean, why do you think you can go to whatever Xbox on this planet, log in, retrieve your data and play your games on it just like that? Hokus Pokus..? But yeah, thanks, you just helped remove the one type of DRM that arguably would add some convenience to discless playing. So that means we can no longer go to the store to buy a game for the Xbox One, install it and throw away the disc - Because, yeah, exactly; it will have up the wazoo with DRM on it to prevent you from doing just that.
But of course the double irony is that when we soon are getting tired of acting like we care so much about consumer rights, this "DRM" will return at some point, we all know it. And not just to the Xbox One either but all platforms, probably before the end of the next cycle, and we'll all be like "ah, who cares, let's just play some games".
People here defended online passes and blocking used games. It's really not hard to believe that certain groups of consumers truly want restrictions on their property for no apparent reason. Well I guess you could say their reasoning was the family sharing plan and allowing games to be traded once. However Microsoft could still do that and not re-enact their physical disc DRM.
What are you talking about?The overlaying irony is people thinking that the DRM went away in the first place.
"We made MS remove the DRM!! We won!" No you didn't, what are you talking about, the DRM is right there, all over the discs and marketplaces, just like it always was. What, you didn't even notice recently when MS added their new DRM to the 360? Why weren't you up in arms over that? I mean, why do you think you can go to whatever Xbox on this planet, log in, retrieve your data and play your games on it just like that? Hokus Pokus..? But yeah, thanks, you just helped remove the one type of DRM that arguably would add some convenience to discless playing. So that means we can no longer go to the store to buy a game for the Xbox One, install it and throw away the disc - Because, yeah, exactly; it will have up the wazoo with DRM on it to prevent you from doing just that.
But of course the double irony is that when we soon are getting tired of acting like we care so much about consumer rights, this "DRM" will return at some point, we all know it. And not just to the Xbox One either but all platforms, probably before the end of the next cycle, and we'll all be like "ah, who cares, let's just play some games".
Microsoft + Scientology PRESENTS
a DRM production
a film by Clifford Bleszinski
"All of Your Monies Belong to Us"
Starring: Mattrique Dontoinette, Steven Ballmer, and Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb as TITANFALL
This plan?
OMG @ the comments on that site. #dead
Liamario
Banned
Couldn't have said it better.
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
I know but still. Maybe blind fanboyism? The DRM was a check to update licences and the like so it would have to come back with everything else.
Wasn't the online requirement in place to make sure disc-based games weren't being installed and then sold? I'd imagine a family share plan and game trading could still require the internet to use but traditional features wouldn't. Granted I'm not anywhere close to qualified to discuss what can and cannot be done on a video game system, but logically I don't see why that wouldn't work.
What are you talking about?
1. What DRM is on the 360?
2. Why do you need the ability to install disc based games and then throw away the disc when you can just buy the game digitally?
Do you not mind having to connect to the internet for single player games?
WrenchNinja
Member
Bandwidth cap.
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
I'm not exactly qualified either lol
I'm just guessing but I would assume that MS would go with an all or nothing approach to this.
