What pisses me off is also people debating about technicalities like who was walking where. Again, a dudebro stalked a boy walking home with candy, got him agitated, had a physical confrontation and SHOT him. Shot an unarmed person. It's really not a society where I would like to live in where a fistfight is grounds to shooting someone in cold blood.
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Verdict reached in George Zimmerman case - Not Guilty
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Apparently I can't see the racism the black community goes through since I'm not black so I used an in-group reference to give better legitimacy that the claim that it can be overdone or abused.
Poltergust
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That would make him 6'9".
A big part of there being no evidence is that the investigation was done by cops who didn't even bother trying to identify the body...
PepsimanVsJoe
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Was that that really fucking necessary?
Lysander518
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Was there any evidence that TM was assaulted with any fists?
No not really.
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Figure I should explicate:
Ja Rule's comment translated for accuracy:
The state of Florida did not have enough evidence to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt so a jury of his peers declared the defendant not guilty....But in my case, the state did have enough evidence to prove I broke the law and a jury of my peers found me guilty. A judge then sentenced me to a jail term fitting my crime. I can't believe it.
Who you calling "you fucking people"? Huh huh huh. Actually I'm just messing around.
Crumpet Trumpet
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Do you have even ONE example where this is the case? Besides White Pride and Heterosexual Pride and the like.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
No and your still derailing the thread
BlastProcessed
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I think that is what upsets me the most. Trayvon will never have a chance to defend himself from all the lies and slander, yet people can make up all the shit they want about him based on his vague background the media distorted.
Devolution
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I dunno, pride movements have been pretty successful in championing more rights or at least putting the focus on certain battles. At the end of the day we are divided in terms of who is more likely to go to jail and who is more likely to seek justice. Highlighting these inequities isn't a divisive strategy on behalf of the minority disproportionately effected, those divisions already exist. That's the problem dude. Color blindness doesn't address this, it just thinks "but I think everyone is equal" is some sort of salve, it's not. These prejudices are built into law, into the reality of how we treat people. You have to address it directly not whine about how "but I treat everyone the same."
lmao
EmCeeGramr
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Maybe that's what they're actually doing and you're being insanely ignorant.
Angelus Errare
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Yea I was thinking +12 but wrote +10,
Don't ever visit homogenous countries like Korea, you'd develop a few hemorrhoids.
Jest Chillin
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Look at the varied amount of posters in this thread and compare them to those that posted in the trial thread. It's obvious that a lot of people simply consumed media headlines that were, at best, poor summaries of each day of trial.
These posters aren't all intentionally trying to blur the facts but they believe the distorted details that the media put out for web hits. I'm not being facetious either. The media's job is supposed to be to convey the truth and people believe that still happens today. The unfortunate reality is that most media outlets are more about getting buys/ad money than providing the general public with unbiased info. Unbiased info just isn't as profitable.
Count Dookkake
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I picked the wrong week to shave my head.
AnathemicOne
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Fucking disgusting, guy just walks away free.
Team Filler
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Not surprised at the verdict, system's a joke filled with walking pieces of shit.
From way back when:
From way back when:
Wrong link on my clipboard.
This is where you take a deep breath and try to understand the possibility that you might not have the perspective necessary on this topic. Yes, its clear that such things have never had an impact in your life - however, in different cultures, such things as those weigh very differently.
You don't care. Okay, that's fine. But, and I'll simplify it for you, by saying it doesn't matter, you immediately disrespect an entirety of struggles, progress, history, and sacrifice. If nothing else, start there. And realize that the very basis of that perspective of yours in doused in selfishness and naivety.
Good way to start your point
If Zimmerman does do the whole book deal thing, then that removes all reasonable doubt for me. I mean, he should definitely give his side of the story (without a lawyer at his side), but it should be done for free.
If I was having accusations of racism and murder lobbed at me, one of the first things I would do is write an honest response to a reputable news source like the NYT.
Jmanunknown
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This whole thing just feels wrong even though I was totally against the media making a circus of the trial George Zimmerman got away with killing someone when the whole situation is mostly his fault for acting like a fool. I'm interested to see the fallout from this whole circus what happens to zimmerman now? and does travon's family file a wrongful death lawsuit?
My point about the technicalities.
One man stalks boy. Boy gets scared. Man pursues with gun. Fight ensues. Bullet beats fist. This, for me, should simply not happen in a post-Wild West society.
IrishNinja
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finally, some logic in this thread
wait
wait no i meant some insufficient perspective, yeah finally that
Bam Bam Baklava
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For me I just can't get over the fact that it's all his fault in the end. He should have never been going after a guy when he has no reason to other than some kind of vigilante fantasies.
Never mind the legality of anything that happened afterwards.
I don't think 'Guilty' is the right word here. He's innocent by law in Florida. Ish.
People are upset that you can stalk someone in the middle of the night, get into a confrontation based on nothing, shoot them, and get away with it.
All fluff aside, that's what happened. And that's pretty hard to deal with.
Tearssss.
You know why they call me peoples batman?
MickeyKnox
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What a fucking travesty.
attracted by 17 year olds = never a pedo, no matter what age.
Usually when I'm trying to defend myself, I make an audible negative (and possibly racist) prejudgment about the person, then I track them down, then I don't listen to authorities when they say to not track the person down, then I accost that person simply because they decided to exercise their right to go to the store and buy candy.
Big Baybee
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Riposte
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I can agree that "stand your ground" laws are problematic. It just seemed people would be very happy if he was guilty even if it is the very law they disagree with.
This, as well as the case of Marissa Alexander, are prime examples of how fucked up our so called "legal system" is. It's truly unbelievable that in 2013, a scumbag like Zimmerman walks while Marissa gets 20 years. My sole hope is that the outrage felt by those who have watched the trial can impact change in the future, when the old racist schmucks (who write laws and hand down verdicts) die out.
Because they want vengeance not justice. And they don't care what that means on a large scale as long as they get to personally feel better.
Her case (and the sentencing guidelines for Zimmerman) just illustrates that Florida has a predilection to legislate inordinate jail length guidelines relative to the rest of the country. Its a ideological policy that I personally think they need to review immediately. And there maybe a constitutional argument for cruel and unusual punishment. But theses are not even remotely the same cases.
Team Filler
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There might've been a weapon inside that candy, you don't know!
People talk about the media a lot, but the media never would have been a part of this if local law enforcement had done their job in the first place.
It had been 2 months since the killing. with Zimmerman free and the investigation was ended without any charges. Without getting the media involved there wouldn't have even been a trial.
Angelus Errare
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