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[APZonerunner]

Daily Mail and its kin are reporting this as an anti child porn win. Surely child porn sites don't use the "this is a porn site" filter that ISPs and browsers read because they're, y'know, under the radar, right? That'd be a bit anti-covert. So surely this won't make a difference to those sick fuckers?

 

[Batigol]

Fucking crazy

Vpn work?

 

[Alienous]

Wait ... wait, how is this even supposed to crack down on child pornography?

Somebody who views child pornography wouldn't make the phone call?

It makes sense to assume that there's going to be a 'pervert list' to make investigations less taxing on the government. They'll collate information, and have people who opt out on a list of shame.

The child pornography angle is such bullshit. Illegal content like that doesn't typically go through 'legitimate' pornography websites. So what happens when this doesn't curb the amount of child pornography? What do you legislate and control next?

So much forehead, so little forethought, Mr Cameron.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Daily Mail and its kin are reporting this as an anti child porn win. Surely child porn sites don't use the "this is a porn site" filter that ISPs and browsers read because they're, y'know, under the radar, right? That'd be a bit anti-covert. So surely this won't make a difference to those sick fuckers?

Of course it won't.

 

[Delusibeta]

If this kind of block does end up being put into place, two things will happen:

a) it's gone within next decade
b) kids will find a way around it because kids are smart

c) the blocker blocks YouTube, DeviantArt, Tumblr, Dailymotion or whatever, shitstorm ensues, it get removed within two weeks.
d) they never actually get round to passing the legislation.
e) block fails miserably, child porn increases in circulation

 

[gerg]

Some "people" will complain the filter doesn't filter enough, and it will be down the rabbit hole from there onward.

Well, at the moment there is no filter (check the Guardian article linked to), so I'm not worried yet.

Could a mod maybe change the title of the thread?

 

[Zomba13]

Daily Mail and its kin are reporting this as an anti child porn win. Surely child porn sites don't use the "this is a porn site" filter that ISPs and browsers read because they're, y'know, under the radar, right? That'd be a bit anti-covert. So surely this won't make a difference to those sick fuckers?

I doubt this will have any effect at all on that shit. From what I understand doesn't that seedy illegal stuff live on darknets and underwebs and whatever that super secret black market internet is? If that stuff is able to operate and not get shut down how will a block on porn stop it?
Only way I can think is that either they really are dumb enough to think this will work (and then they will closely monitor everyone's connection that opts out of the porn block) or they assum e that normal pron is a gateway to sick filth like child porn and by making the default internet a porn free zone then people won't be hooked and need that kiddy fix to get off.

Then again, I'm not a politician. If I was I'd be richer and there would be free porn for everyone.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Daily Mail and its kin are reporting this as an anti child porn win. Surely child porn sites don't use the "this is a porn site" filter that ISPs and browsers read because they're, y'know, under the radar, right? That'd be a bit anti-covert. So surely this won't make a difference to those sick fuckers?

Ah, yes, the Mail! The ultimate dissuader of child sexualisation!

c) the blocker blocks YouTube, DeviantArt, Tumblr, Dailymotion or whatever, shitstorm ensues, it get removed within two weeks.
d) they never actually get round to passing the legislation.
e) block fails miserably, child porn increases in circulation

d) seems likely. The Conservatives lack the conviction to pass laws like this.

 

[Ashes]

countdown until a hacker hacks an isp and dumps a list of customers who opt out of the ban

That number would be in the millions.

 

[BertramCooper]

Is pornography on The Daily Mail's list of things that cause cancer?

 

[Vashetti]

 

[The Cowboy]

Day 1.

"Hi BT customer support?, I need the porn filter removed please - NEED PORN NOW!!!"

 

[marvelharvey]

Hello, is that Cameron? Oh, hi. Can you make pornography come on my telly please? Oh, that’s very nice of you. Thank you.

 

[Alienous]

All that's missing is an 'Enjoy' to be an instant classic.

 

[LordCanti]

Is pornography on The Daily Mail's list of things that cause cancer?

It's probably on WebMD's list.

 

[Omikaru]

Nice one, Dave. You've just driven the paedophiles further underground and made them that much harder to catch, and their networks/websites that much harder to disrupt. You stupid fucking incompetent cunt.

At the very least, the Daily Mail -- the bastion of child sexualisation -- should be filtered in this block.

 

[Broder Salsa]

I'm glad this is happening, kids these days should grow up and feel of delight that I had finding porn in the forest. Googling it is just not the same.

 

[Zomba13]

But I suspect they have their own reason for rejecting default-on, which is that they know if they don't, their call centres will be inundated with bashful customers who have skipped through the set-up process without checking what they ticked or didn't tick and have just realised they are locked out of their favourite porn site. I can hear the calls now: "Yes, hello. I, um, I can't access, er, some of the internet." "Do you mean the porn?" "No, just, er, just some websites." "Porn sites?" "No. Just sites with-" "Porn on?" "Yes, alright, yes. What kind of internet service provider doesn't include the porn as standard?!"

Sounds like such a likely scenario and from working on the tech support side would make the job a hell of a lot harder for both the customer and the tech agent. Some custoemrs really don't want to help you with your job and give all the information so I can see people calling in and not mentioning they can't get porn just saying the internet isn't working right and they can't get all of the web and leading to multiple call ins and checks for something that'd be fixed by saying 'I can't get my porn, fix it please.'.

 

[kharma45]

I kinda like the idea of what they are doing, but something like this should be opt in and not opt out.

I don't mind it being opt out, if they implement it right. So say you're taking out a new package, when you're going through the various options choosing what you want there should be a section where it lets you know the filter is on and the point of ordering you can de-activate it there from the off if you should so choose.

 

[dr_octagon]

In relation to child pornography - the BBC interviewed the former head of CEOP and he was right about the weird approach. It should be about making arrests public, finding the source of the material and looking at the other ways material is shared. The focus on Google is little more than rhetoric. The typical mantra of Internet being lawless or without rules is bullshit. Both parties are guilty of this and it's over zealous policing. Google already restrict content and people can report sites / content.

And it runs against the government's own idea of people taking responsibility. Filters can be put in place already and there is plenty of information to educate parents about monitoring online habits of their kids. You would have thought the interwebs and social media suddenly appeared a week ago - all these problems have recently cropped up.

countdown until a hacker hacks an isp and dumps a list of customers who opt out of the ban

What pisses me off is the level of care and responsibility government departments take to keeping data safe. They have been in trouble with ICO and nothing ever changes. Fuck keeping information safe, it's only addresses and personal details - discs being lost, files left on trains, website leaks and laptops with patient data being sold on. They are incompetent when it comes to technology but always enjoy legislating and enforcing without thinking it through.

Cunts

 

[I Stalk Alone]

I'm glad this is happening, kids these days should grow up and feel of delight that I had finding porn in the forest. Googling it is just not the same.

i found animals and trees in the forest. what were you doing there?

 

[Skeyser]

wait, what do they have against porn? sounds like something an ultra religious state would do.

I don't see how a porn filter would stop any pedophiles either.

 

[Miles X]

wait, what do they have against porn? sounds like something an ultra religious state would do.

I don't see how a porn filter would stop any pedophiles either.

Imagine if this did stop pedo's from getting access to child porn (it won't). Doesn't bare thinking about what lengths they'd go to get their 'fix'.

 

[LordCanti]

I don't mind it being opt out, if they implement it right. So say you're taking out a new package, when you're going through the various options choosing what you want there should be a section where it lets you know the filter is on and the point of ordering you can de-activate it there from the off if you should so choose.

There's something more sinister about having to check "Porn please" instead of having to check "No Porn Please". It's the difference between "Oh sorry luv, I forgot to check the filter box!" and "Oh sorry luv....I beat off".

 

[$h@d0w]

Wow, they actually did it.

 

[The Cowboy]

i found animals and trees in the forest. what were you doing there?

He was looking for truffles and found porn instead.

 

[Blair]

Hello, is that Cameron? Oh, hi. Can you make pornography come on my telly please? Oh, that’s very nice of you. Thank you.

Brilliant post

 

[Delusibeta]

d) seems likely. The Conservatives lack the conviction to pass laws like this.

Yeah, this idea has been kicking around for a good 12 months now. I would question their willingness to commit to something with such large potential for a backfire.

 

[LegoArmo]

Fuck this country. Seriously.

 

[purnoman3000]

Hello, is that Cameron? Oh, hi. Can you make pornography come on my telly please? Oh, that’s very nice of you. Thank you.

hahaha, killed me



.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Yeah, this idea has been kicking around for a good 12 months now. I would question their willingness to commit to something with such large potential for a backfire.

I just don't think there's any interest and proper understanding coming from within the party about this issue nor the proposed move. Major restrictions like this can't be placed purely by parent groups and tabloids.

 

[Kule]

This is so backwards.. Blocking legal porn is not going to stop perverts from finding their illegal porn. :/

 

[The Cowboy]

This is so backwards.. Blocking legal porn is not going to stop perverts from finding their illegal porn. :/

This is the current government in a nutshell, They give tax breaks to millionaires and around the same time bring in the bedroom tax that affects the poorest only - backwards.

 

[Salvadora]

Whatever happened to parental responsibility? It should be opt in if anything.

Fuck you, Dave.

 

[HotHamWater]

I can't wait for Nigel Farage to realize that staring in a porno will get him votes.

Spoiler

Or worse, Nick Griffin. I'd pay good money to see him bang a black chick.

 

[Dabanton]

Saw this on the BBC news earlier. Pandering to clueless morons unfortunately. I'm sure pedos are really going to be looking on google for their sick kicks.

 

[marvelharvey]

Very happy I left the UK.

What about newsgroups? How on earth will their filter detect what's inside .rar files? I guess the solution would be to block all newsgroups... better safe than sorry eh?

Spoiler

Or worse, Nick Griffin. I'd pay good money to see him bang a black chick.

That would make a great party political broadcast.

 

[Dabanton]

I can't wait for Nigel Farage to realize that staring in a porno will get him votes.

Spoiler

Or worse, Nick Griffin. I'd pay good money to see him bang a black chick.

Nigel could do a vote roadshow up and down the UK and base it on Jim Slip.

 

[casabolg]

Uh oh, UK going full puritan again!

 

[Vivalaraza]

Linked Guardian article is a good read.

Smartly done by Cameron. Will look like a win and in reality have little to no impact.

 

[Deacan]

Our government picking ideas from a hat again, sounds good in the headlines that's all they care about.

 

[SapientWolf]

This measure is going to be worthless for its stated purpose. They would have to block every free, anonymous picture and file host on the web just to reduce the amount of available porn by a fraction. Not to mention the public backlash.

So they're either passing worthless, feelgood legislation or there is another intended purpose.

 

[The Cowboy]

A bit of a quick and dirty one.

 

[Stinkles]

Guess David Cameron isn't a fan of Balls.

how do you explain his face?

 

[Brianemone]

There are going to be so many people up in arms over this. I think a better policy is that you have to call your provider to manually enable the porn block (so that it isn't disabled by default).

This.

As a parent I would love to be able to let the kids google with out worrying that theres some weird fetish stuff that they'll stumble on

 

[Bleepey]

I had to call to remove the porn filter from my phone. Ironically I wasn't looking at porn when I found out it was there. I am not crazy about this.

 

[DirtyManos]

You'll always have your magazines England.

 

[kharma45]

I had to call to remove the porn filter from my phone. Ironically I wasn't looking at porn when I found out it was there. I am not crazy about this.

What I had to do was some sort of credit card check. I can't remember what it was but it wasn't even a website that could be considered adult that I was on like a porn or gambling site, it was just something normal but somehow fell under their definition of adult.

 

[Toppot]

There is no way this will become law, right? Atm its just his crazy idea yeah? This has to be voted on by house of commons, lords etc right?

 

[yepyepyep]

They were trying to implement this very same scheme in Australia but it never made it through. It was considered to unpopular with voters. Hopefully the same will happen in the UK.