MMaRsu
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inFamous Second Son looks better?
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Ryse Son of Rome - Behind the Scenes Video Shows Xbox One Exclusive's Development
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inFamous Second Son looks better?
SniperHunter
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I am just saying, you are the Sherlock Holmes of 3d graphics technology. Great observation skills
If true this game is going to bomb spectacularly.
It's a launch game, it'll sell regardless of quality. Remember Red Steel?
Garrett 2U
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Looks really good!
I hope the gameplay is improved from what the demo looked like
I hope the gameplay is improved from what the demo looked like
MMaRsu
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What's the big deal with performance capture and making games feel like movies? Except for TLOU which really shined in gameplay, I think for a lot of games it doesn't matter if it's performance capture or whatever.
Gameplay is what's important here. Where are the next steps in gameplay concerning next gen???
Gameplay is what's important here. Where are the next steps in gameplay concerning next gen???
SEGAvangelist
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Not out at launch.
Gameplay doesn't stand out as much at the demo kiosk, and graphics sell next gen for MANY people.
Dictator93
Member
I can only imagine how much money microsofot though at this during its years as a kinect only title.
Cryengine gonna cryengine.
Kinda insulting to 16bit gen games...
ElektroDragon
Banned
What about Asura's Wrath? Crappy wannabe anime series filled with QTEs?
Honestly I wish more games were like Asura's Wrath.
SniperHunter
Banned
No way....
at this point Cry Engine 3 is way more developed and "mature" than whatever engine Infamous SS is using. Crytek has shipped 5 games using this engine and they know it's capabilities and can optimize it according to their needs.
Sucker Punch on the other hand is a small studio and their last two games looked like ass
Personally I just think they've probably refocused much of their work force on non gaming contracts and assignments, namely military. Makes sense since they're more profitable.
Irrespective of dev calibre and engine use, InFamous does look graphically superior, by some margin. Even if it is an open world game, with night/day cycles and all the rest. I agree that SuckerPunch are not known for their graphical capabilities, which is why I'm even more dumbfounded Infamous SS looks as good as it does.
lmao
SEGAvangelist
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Really not seeing how this game is so amazing graphically like some of these posts led me to believe.
Guess I've been spending too much time on here.
It's the next gen jump. PC gamers won't see anything they haven't seen for anything at launch, though.
SEGAvangelist
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Ok, come on... Infamous: Second Son looks pretty damn amazing. Get some glasses dude.
I think Infamous has the edge as well, especially in motion.
And for what it's actually doing (a giant open world game) I think it's more impressive on a technical level than Ryse.
Then again, we have barely seen anything from the rest of Ryse. So who knows.
R3TRO
Member
Yep, looks like happy fun time.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
You son of a bitch LOL, thanks for making me spill water.
Looks amazing though, the mo-cap tech is incredible
It really does not, not from technology perspective. And CryEngine has open world streaming and real time lighting, so if they want, they can do big levels like Crysis 3 that span over 1.5km of terrain without a problem, because tech is there. Just, because they are doing game with linear set pieces, doesnt mean its an engine limitation or even game limitation. Technology allows for big open levels with Ryse quality, because streaming tech is already there and everything else is already dynamic.
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What is the most striking here for me, is the first dagger movement. Marius do not move, but only put a weight of his body to left leg and dagger react to it accordingly.
ShinobiFist
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In this is the problem with the industry. Trying to make "Films" instead of games. I'll doubt this game will have any replay value.
soul creator
Member
I just finished the Conan game recently, and actually enjoyed it a lot, so that's got me weirdly looking forward to this.
That said, I only paid $5 for Conan...lol
That said, I only paid $5 for Conan...lol
SEGAvangelist
Member
It'll sell people on the idea of next gen because "omg teh graphix," though.
Play the MMORPG now. Gotta plug AoC any chance I get. Love that game dearly.
SniperHunter
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I think the art in infamous is better, like I said on the last page the art in Ryse is mundane. Infamous kinda pops out with all the colors and all..
graphically though tinfamous ss isn't doing anything special...minimal amount of pedestrians and cars on the road (sparsely populated world), canned destruction of a few structures, particle effects that fade away too quickly. the lighting quality is great but that's about it
and it won't have full day and night scycles, the last two infamous games didn't....
InFamous SS has dynamic lighting too, and shadows, and night/day transitions, as well as better textures, overall lighting, a cleaner image (better IQ), subsurface scattering on skin, open world with more going on screen and so forth. Being CryEngine doesn't mean much, it's the implementation of it that matters. I think people give Crytek far too much credit to be honest.
SEGAvangelist
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Ryse and Infamous are the real next gen sellers, though, when it comes to graphics. The comparison makes sense. I don't think either game should be used to argue the other doesn't look impressive, lol.
TheGreyHulk
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here's what i would like to know. can you not enter the QTE? does it always go into that stupid slow motion where they put the qte prompt up, or does it stay fluid because based on what i read, the qte finishes regardless of any button inputs which is weird as fuck
I wouldn't consider the action adventure genre one that is full of replay value to be fair, nothing new. Really depends on the player. For people who like games like these and want to play them again on harder difficulties and unlock secret items they will find replay value.
NullPointer
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Zero gameplay, mechanics wise. This was all film and theater and mo-capping like film and theater.
They should really put out a behind the scenes video purely on the interactive, player-driven elements.
I'm biased though, as the more film is brought up, the more I lose interest.
They should really put out a behind the scenes video purely on the interactive, player-driven elements.
I'm biased though, as the more film is brought up, the more I lose interest.
SEGAvangelist
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They better keep the slow motion. Love that "300" vibe. It really shows off the animations and character detail as well.
I've said it before, but this really is just like Heavenly Sword was for PS3. If it plays as well as that, I'll be happy.
SniperHunter
Banned
At the end of the day Killzone Shadow Fall will be the best looking PS4 game for a while. That e3 level looked like ass, but I trust GG
Read my impressions of the demo above. But you don't have to its like god of war, you can keep bashing away but it takes longer.
netoambrosio
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it is supposed to play like the batman arkham games...but they haven't showed that yet
Crytek is doing SSS since Crysis 2 with current gen consoles included. Full dynamic lighting on current gen too.
More things on screen? Ryse showed at least 30 characters fighting in quite big scene, where Infamous:SS showed 5-7?
Particles are much better in Ryse, not only they lit, but they also react to physics and shadow the ground.
Ryse has tessellation and parallax occlusion mapping and pixel accurate displacement mapping.
Has great quality Bokeh and Motion Blur of unparalleled quality.
Also cloth simulation tech in Ryse is the best we have ever seen and very high quality FFT water.
Cant really comment on IQ or textures, both games are still in production, but for IQ Crytek will probably use SMAA T2x for 1080p.
And CryEngine matters a lot, because Crytek do not take out features to make a linear games prettier. Almost everything Crysis 3 is doing [except Area Lights, Caustics and Volumetric Cloud Shadows], Ryse will be doing and more like very advanced cloth physics, or better character animations.
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Infamous:SS will be better game probably by a mile, but wont have better tech. Just check what tech Crytek put into Crysis 3 on current gen consoles, its ridiculous.
Fuck, even Crysis 3 on Lowest settings with high IQ looks better than almost every next-gen game from E3.
shinobi602
Member
Such hyperbole, jesus Christ.
SniperHunter
Banned
I mean with the pops ups and the missing effects. Of course I expect it to look a lot better by launch
SEGAvangelist
Member
It comes off as a generic FPS to many people, though. It won't demo in the same way that Ryse and Infamous will.
Yeah... no. Crysis 2/3 turned off some people, but Far Cry and Crysis/Crysis Warhead were amazing games.
R3TRO
Member
Well....
H_Prestige
Banned
Holy shit at all the people who want this.
Ol No Bones
Banned
The animations and lighting looks great. Armor looks good but this quality animations is what I hope to see more of next gen. Gameplay doesn't look as bad as people say IMO my only fear is that it won't be challenging at all.