On this date two years ago, Aziz Shavershian (Zyzz) died.

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Imm0rt4l

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A bunch of /b/ idiots did the standard trolling/threats thing to a bunch of trip users on /fit/ and for some reason scooby let it get to him and freaked out and shut everything down

Well it's kinda understandable, his job was getting called, and his family got death threats.
 

Chinner

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A bunch of /b/ idiots did the standard trolling/threats thing to a bunch of trip users on /fit/ and for some reason scooby let it get to him and freaked out and shut everything down

but scooby is always nice and friendly :(

everything seems to be back up though now? on his website anyway
 

blackflag

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I refuse to believe he had an undiagnosed heart condition. His mom worked in cardiology at a hospital if I remember correctly.

It's a simple case of 2-3 steroid cycles a year since age 19, coupled with excessive partying using recreational drugs. I don't want to speak ill of the guy since he's passed away, but he's been taking a myriad of steroids since the start.

He was a friendly guy who made some trollish videos. In the end, it was all for naught as his life ended too early. RIP Aziz.

It's more likely it was only the recreational drugs and heart defect rather than the steroids having anything to do with it.
 

Madness

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It's more likely it was only the recreational drugs and heart defect rather than the steroids having anything to do with it.

I don't think he really had a heart defect. His death was ruled as myocardial infarction. And his family said it was only recently he started to have chest problems, trouble breathing. His blood pressure was probably through the roof.

Who knows what he took before, but it's known for a fact he had done numerous cycles of deca, test cyp, tren, test-e, would pop arimidex and nolva throughout cycle, plus the fact he was on dnp and clen pretty much throughout the year. Add it together with a rave lifestyle etc. Think the day he died was like 40+ degrees in Thailand. And he was dehydrated in a sauna.

But that's besides the point, he's gone now. Nothing can be done. It's just sad, all that work and time spent on his body and he never truly got to enjoy it.
 

Karkador

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From what I can tell the dude seems to be a huge douchebag.
He treats women like shit.
He's full of himself.
Lies about using steroids.

and yet people worship him.

it's almost like a certain segment of the bodybuilding population thinks and acts just like he does
 

cdkee

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Other than the douchie clothes, the guy looked way more healthy in the top picture than the bottom picture.

You're joking, right?

Anyway he was just a funny troll, that's all. Haters can say "lol just another juicer steroids lol pathetic" all they want, without realizing that even when taking steroids it takes a LOT of work to get big. You still have to be in the gym every day. You still have to eat a lot. it's not just "insert needle and become huge" like many people think. He still motivated a lot of people, and did some funny things in the process. His doucheyness was just a character he played. Why? Well it got him a lot of followers and allowed him to make a living off it.

RIP
 

Karkador

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You're joking, right?

Anyway he was just a funny troll, that's all. Haters can say "lol just another juicer steroids lol pathetic" all they want, without realizing that even when taking steroids it takes a LOT of work to get big. You still have to be in the gym every day. You still have to eat a lot. it's not just "insert needle and become huge" like many people think. He still motivated a lot of people, and did some funny things in the process. His doucheyness was just a character he played. Why? Well it got him a lot of followers and allowed him to make a living off it.

RIP

I don't really have anything to say about the steroid use, nor do I feel like dancing on his grave or anything. However, there are plenty of role models in the world who do great things without shitting on other people and acting like an ass. It seems that what he encouraged in terms of physical fitness, he discouraged in terms of acting like a decent person. I'm not sure if that's a overall net gain. Guys need better role models than him.
 

Truelize

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Wow.
Winners don't use drugs.

Haha I don't even have to read past the first post to soak in all the funny I need.

A lot of "winners" use drugs man. The second and third place finishers do too though. So it's all good. haha.



Other than the douchie clothes, the guy looked way more healthy in the top picture than the bottom picture.


Nevermind there is gold the whole way through here. How do you judge "health" by those two pics? Is it the skull to sunglasses ratio?



The Zyzz threads are always entertaining. I thought the story of this guy was made up when I first heard of him. I don't care what he put into his body. He was entertaining. Period.
 

Coreda

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Haha I don't even have to read past the first post to soak in all the funny I need.

A lot of "winners" use drugs man. The second and third place finishers do too though. So it's all good. haha.

Truelize
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(Today, 06:59 AM)
 

Imm0rt4l

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saw that coming.



Anyways, it's not a matter of what he puts in his body, thers a great number of celebrities we all admire who are on gear. It's a matter of whether he is worthy of all the adoration he gets. I can certainly admire his physique, and his desire to go from shit to fit. However I can't really condone, his behavior in some(though I enjoy the lulz) nor drug/hormone abuse to get to where he reached. Through most of his internet fame he was at a very attainable size, but he decided to cut corners. I think even people really big on gear will tell you not to hop on the bike so quickly, you'll undermine your own gains.


I can definitely appreciate some of the humor that's come as a result of his presence on bb and after his untimely death. I can admire his muscle insertions, but I can't get with some of the zyzz worship that's so prevalent on bb,/fit/ or youtube.
 

Replicant

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I don't really have anything to say about the steroid use, nor do I feel like dancing on his grave or anything. However, there are plenty of role models in the world who do great things without shitting on other people and acting like an ass. It seems that what he encouraged in terms of physical fitness, he discouraged in terms of acting like a decent person. I'm not sure if that's a overall net gain. Guys need better role models than him.

+1. I don't get the obsession over this guy. There are other guys out there who have equally good physique who don't make a big deal out of it or be a douche about it.
 

Pein

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+1. I don't get the obsession over this guy. There are other guys out there who have equally good physique who don't make a big deal out of it or be a douche about it.

he was a skinny nerd that got buff and could get any girl, thats why he's loved.
 

lmpaler

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You're joking, right?

Anyway he was just a funny troll, that's all. Haters can say "lol just another juicer steroids lol pathetic" all they want, without realizing that even when taking steroids it takes a LOT of work to get big. You still have to be in the gym every day. You still have to eat a lot. it's not just "insert needle and become huge" like many people think. He still motivated a lot of people, and did some funny things in the process. His doucheyness was just a character he played. Why? Well it got him a lot of followers and allowed him to make a living off it.

RIP

Batman would never promote steroids or defend them. Shape shifter!!!!!

Seriously though, don't defend the juice man. It's not right
 

Madness

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That set alarms off in my head. Some primal 'something is wrong' shit.

Yea, to me that doesn't even sound like sleep apnea. He straight sounds like he could stop breathing indefinitely.

Yeah and sad part is, this was a video filmed many months before his death. If only his friends or those close to him forced him to see a cardiologist or something. Make him get off the gear etc. Stop the partying and stuff.
 
Kurdish ethnicity. Born in Russia SFR, moved to Australia after. His parents were born in Armenia SFR but weren't Armenian.
Hmm, okay.. Basically from the Baltic region there somewhere. So if his parents weren't Armenian, were they Kurdish Muslims born in Armenia SFR, then moved to Russia SFR, (Most likely after Armenia became independent in 1990?)
 

derwalde

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joff pls go.
 

strobogo

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I'll never understand why so many people get bent out of shape over someone using steroids. It's not like he was even a pro athlete or bodybuilder. He was just a guy who wanted to work out and get buff. Why does it matter if he "cheated" or not? And what did he cheat at? Getting a cut body? How is that a problem to anyone else? I have similar feelings about people who get uppity about pro wrestlers using steroids. How have there been TWO federal investigations into that?
 

Karkador

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I'll never understand why so many people get bent out of shape over someone using steroids. It's not like he was even a pro athlete or bodybuilder. He was just a guy who wanted to work out and get buff. Why does it matter if he "cheated" or not? And what did he cheat at? Getting a cut body? How is that a problem to anyone else? I have similar feelings about people who get uppity about pro wrestlers using steroids. How have there been TWO federal investigations into that?

Seems to have been a problem for Zyzz, at least. As for his internet fanbase, doesn't it seem like some cognitive dissonance for the people who want to "turn their lives around" and get good bodies to have their mentor and hero, in top physical form, dead at a young age from health problems?
 

Chittagong

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I'll never understand why so many people get bent out of shape over someone using steroids. It's not like he was even a pro athlete or bodybuilder. He was just a guy who wanted to work out and get buff. Why does it matter if he "cheated" or not? And what did he cheat at? Getting a cut body? How is that a problem to anyone else? I have similar feelings about people who get uppity about pro wrestlers using steroids. How have there been TWO federal investigations into that?

I think what rubs most people the wrong way is that a joe average will view their juiced pace and methods as a realistic route for getting a good body, and even ask from them for training tips.

Obviously if you are not juicing you just don't burn fat or recuperate after a workout as fast as these guys, so you need a different approach to diet and different programming than what they would advocate.
 

strobogo

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I think what rubs most people the wrong way is that a joe average will view their juiced pace and methods as a realistic route for getting a good body, and even ask from them for training tips.

Obviously if you are not juicing you just don't burn fat or recuperate after a workout as fast as these guys, so you need a different approach to diet and different programming than what they would advocate.

An average Joe will never look like that, regardless of what extra help he's getting. All the steroids in the world aren't going to make you look like that unless you put all of your time into working out. Do people still think that taking steroids alone will make you big?
 

Madness

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Hmm, okay.. Basically from the Baltic region there somewhere. So if his parents weren't Armenian, were they Kurdish Muslims born in Armenia SFR, then moved to Russia SFR, (Most likely after Armenia became independent in 1990?)

No they were Kurdish Christians who were "officially" in Armenia SSR during the Soviet Union, they moved to Russia later where Zyzz and his older brother were born. It was all the Soviet Union then so it didn't really matter if you were from Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakhstan etc. After that they moved to Australia. He once described himself as an Iraqi Christian basically.
 

Gustav

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Except when he was denouncing all women as sluts and treating them like sub-human trash right?

No, no. You misunderstand. The best part about him is that he got pussy. Like all the pussy you could imagine. He is the dream of every FFXI walkthrough reading forum dweller. Imagine getting buff and showing all those people that were mean to you that you now slay pussy more than ever.
 
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