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I was asked to repost this "maybe with fewer words?", so here goes:


The Relationship Fallacy is the idea that we would be completely fixed if we could just form the one perfect relationship. It’s often expressed in terms of the desire for romantic relationships, but close friendships also come up (as do friendships that people wish they could turn into romantic relationships).

What makes the relationship fallacy so hard to shake is that, basically, it’s kind of true - for many of us, relationships are among the most important, fulfilling, affirming, mood-boosting parts of our lives. The problem comes about when 1) we fail to acknowledge how difficult even the best relationships invariably are at times, and 2) we start thinking that all meaning, validation, and sense of worth, or even our sense of self, will only come from other people.

We overestimate the ability of other people to change how we feel about ourselves. We want to be told we're pretty, but when we are told that, we never believe it. Then again, there are folks who do derive a lot of meaning and validation from intense relationships. The problem here is that, when these relationships end, or fail to provide everything we need, the consequences are catastrophic. It’s dangerous in general to let another person have complete control over our feelings. I’m shocked by the number of people from the community who are pining over really awful sounding exes, or who are upset about losing friends who were, when it comes right down to it, emotionally abusive.

Disagreements, fights, and misunderstandings inevitably arise in even the healthiest relationships. We tend to imagine Hollywood, happily-ever-after-style scenarios, not the messier (but potentially more satisfying) human interactions we’ll actually get. If you’re pining away for a magical relationship that will cure your mental health issues, you’re going to be let down, and probably fuck up, any real relationships you do form.

It all reminds me a lot of the idea of being “friendzoned.” The issue here is that when we are looking for the supreme relationship that will save us, then every relationship must be that thing. It’s not enough to have a close female friend, we have to go out. People who are trapped in the relationship fallacy end up doing this fucked up thing where they feel that they are somehow owed something from any relationships they do form. Without meaning to, they end up demanding that people regard them in a certain way (again, often involving romantic feelings), which is just incredibly toxic.

Over the past year or so, I've had four friends who were dealing with severe depression alongside me find relationships. And the relationships have made all of them much happier and more stable people. For all three of them, it's like their depression is gone. Of course they still have good and bad days, but it's not like before where they're talking to me about how miserable they are every single day.

Could their depression come back? Possibly. Could they completely relapse if the relationship ends? Possibly. But I don't buy the "relationships won't help your depression" story when I've seen first hand multiple times that it very clearly can.

Edit: And yeah, these are the same friends I was talking about before. It's kind of why dealing with them can very easily ruin my mood.

Also I'm back on my medication.
 
Have you spoken to a therapist?

What negatives are you focusing on?

It sounds like you transferred though, so you were somewhere else before?

I've been in a community college for like 3-4 years. So this is going to be my first time going being in a new college. My negatives I'm focusing on are usually "what if I fail" or "what if I don't understand anything even though instructors or anyone answers my questions". Usually I get this feeling everyday, I don't know if it has to do with stress, but it's more like I don't believe in myself. I don't believe I could pass the classes that I have to take for my major. I'm not saying this because of "what if" statement, I'm saying this because of how my mind works differently than others. I never spoke to a therapist, and even if I did, it would be a waste of time because they just tell you what you want to hear and it's all up to you to make your life better. It doesn't matter what anyone tells me, I have to put a lot of effort in making my life better. Also, it seems I don't know my way around in this world in terms of socialism.
 
Over the past year or so, I've had four friends who were dealing with severe depression alongside me find relationships. And the relationships have made all of them much happier and more stable people. For all three of them, it's like their depression is gone. Of course they still have good and bad days, but it's not like before where they're talking to me about how miserable they are every single day.

Could their depression come back? Possibly. Could they completely relapse if the relationship ends? Possibly. But I don't buy the "relationships won't help your depression" story when I've seen first hand multiple times that it very clearly can.

I've never tried to say that relationships don't help depression. The second paragraph specifically addresses that. You're absolutely right - it would be ridiculous to say that relationships don't make you feel better, or are not part of maintaining mental health. The issue is when people look to some kind of idealized fantasy relationship to magically "fix" them. I think the point is easier to follow in the full version of that post, but I hope the distinction between wanting to have relationships, which we all need, and looking for one single relationship that will fix all of our problems, is clear.
 
I've been in a community college for like 3-4 years. So this is going to be my first time going being in a new college. My negatives I'm focusing on are usually "what if I fail" or "what if I don't understand anything even though instructors or anyone answers my questions". Usually I get this feeling everyday, I don't know if it has to do with stress, but it's more like I don't believe in myself. I don't believe I could pass the classes that I have to take for my major. I'm not saying this because of "what if" statement, I'm saying this because of how my mind works differently than others. I never spoke to a therapist, and even if I did, it would be a waste of time because they just tell you what you want to hear and it's all up to you to make your life better. It doesn't matter what anyone tells me, I have to put a lot of effort in making my life better. Also, it seems I don't know my way around in this world in terms of socialism.
How has your past record been as far as failing or passing classes? It could possibly be anxiety.

I think you're writing off a therapist (or psychiatrist) far too quickly. No, therapists don't just tell you what you want to hear. (Sometimes they tell you the exact opposite!) Good therapists won't do things for you, no, but they will help you understand yourself better and give you some of the tools in which you can start working towards a better mental state.

As far as socializing goes, I think a lot of people have issues with this and more than they let on. If wanting to socialize with others is something you want to do, it is a skill that can be learned and practiced.
 
How has your past record been as far as failing or passing classes? It could possibly be anxiety.

I think you're writing off a therapist (or psychiatrist) far too quickly. No, therapists don't just tell you what you want to hear. (Sometimes they tell you the exact opposite!) Good therapists won't do things for you, no, but they will help you understand yourself better and give you some of the tools in which you can start working towards a better mental state.

As far as socializing goes, I think a lot of people have issues with this and more than they let on. If wanting to socialize with others is something you want to do, it is a skill that can be learned and practiced.

I'm majoring in computer science, its a hard major but I know you make a lot of money from careers that has to do with that major. But I'm not sure. My problem is grasping information and I'm afraid that I'm not going to gain any information from the classes I took. I recently failed physics, and I'm required to take physics with calculus I and II. How am I supposed pass those classes when I recently failed Physics (without knowing Calculus)? I think they have therapist there in college, so I might try it. I do want to socialize but I'm a loner and I have no friends to hang out with. I mostly hang out sometimes with my brothers and cousins, and I had fun hanging out with them despite being quite most of the time.
 
Try reading books that explain in a compelling way whatever you're trying to learn. For instance, Richard Dawkins got me into biology, evolution, and game theory. I'm sure there's an equivalent for whatever you're into. It's so much easier to understand a topic when you've been introduced to it by a smart person. At least in my expirence.

Also calc is tough, but just do problems in the back of the book. Now is a great time for you too: there's no pressure you have nothing to lose.

Nobody ever tells you, but being self taught makes you resilient. Or at least for me it felt that way.
 
I'm majoring in computer science, its a hard major but I know you make a lot of money from careers that has to do with that major. But I'm not sure. My problem is grasping information and I'm afraid that I'm not going to gain any information from the classes I took. I recently failed physics, and I'm required to take physics with calculus I and II. How am I supposed pass those classes when I recently failed Physics (without knowing Calculus)? I think they have therapist there in college, so I might try it. I do want to socialize but I'm a loner and I have no friends to hang out with. I mostly hang out sometimes with my brothers and cousins, and I had fun hanging out with them despite being quite most of the time.
Do you enjoy the major itself? I think it's good to chose a path that'll make you able to support yourself, but studying something just because it makes a lot of money does not sound like is enough of a reason for you to dedicate so much time to something that is difficult.

We have a lot of math (and I think some computer science?) majors in DepressionGAF who are always willing to help out. I'm regularly in chat working through a Calc I textbook, and people like MikeDip are super helpful. Don't be afraid to go to tutors either. Most universities will have a center for it.

You're also lucky that you're still in school because it really is one of the easier places to socialize. Find groups that are based around what you're interested in and go attend. :)
 
I'm definitely feeling a lot more lucid since my last meltdown.

Despite failing out of my old college, it's still possible for me to make it into the music college I wanted to get into. I just have to pass the bass audition. So I've been practicing for that. I haven't been playing since my depression started and man have I gotten rusty.

I think the move will be good for me.

I've never tried to say that relationships don't help depression. The second paragraph specifically addresses that. You're absolutely right - it would be ridiculous to say that relationships don't make you feel better, or are not part of maintaining mental health. The issue is when people look to some kind of idealized fantasy relationship to magically "fix" them. I think the point is easier to follow in the full version of that post, but I hope the distinction between wanting to have relationships, which we all need, and looking for one single relationship that will fix all of our problems, is clear.

It's really disheartening dealing with my friends. Yeah I'll be moving away, but I'll still be dealing with them online and stuff.

I've been told over and over again that no one will want to date you if you're depressed. I've seen my friends with depression find and maintain relationships with ease.

I've been told that relationships won't cure your depression. But I see it doing just that for people.

All my friends find relationships that pull them out of their depression, and I'm still stuck being single all my life.

And they all got exactly what I want. It can very easily make me feel incredibly miserable.

Maybe I'm not quite in the category of people you're talking about, or maybe I am. I definitely feel that a relationship would pull me out of my depression.

Obviously, some days are worse than others. I don't really feel like I'm "broken." I don't hate myself and I don't feel like I need to be "fixed."

I know who I am and I'm comfortable in my skin for the most part.

I've just been single all my life and its been grinding me down over the past year. It's a constant weight on my life because it's not something I can separate myself from. And that's not going to go away unless I stop being single all my life. It just seems that simple to me.
 
I'm sure this has been brought up by someone else, but, how do you deal with waking up in the morning, getting yourself up from your bed, and not putting yourself down?

I suffer many problems. The main issue is..I delude myself into thinking everything is ok. It's bad, but it's what I do. I tell myself, 'tomorrow I'll do it', and it never happens. I wake up, telling myself I'll do it, and either just go back to sleep because I don't want to get up, or tell myself that I'll do it tomorrow...and then the next day...and then the next week.

I know if I keep going down that way, I'll end up killing myself because of...well, my body issues. Day by day, at work, or wherever, I end up just day dreaming about how it would be if I looked better, was fitter, and it just hurts me more because then I drown in the what if's and into the what can be, but when the time comes of pushing myself to do it, I can't. It's a literal block because as rise up to do it, thoughts flood my head of what others will think of me, of the stares I'll get, and that ends up making me not go to the gym or better myself, it stops me from getting a better job or even trying to apply and to go out there. I have weight issues, I should bring it up earlier, but that's the main issue. When I have a day off, I want to stay in and not go out because I'm afraid I'm going to be judged. I don't want to go work out to better myself because..of the same reason, and end up being in a vicious circle.

My parents don't understand, so they just insult me of 'Why can't you do this or that, why are you always on the computer, etc. etc.' and it just racks up. Even when I've tried to explain to them, they just don't understand because they've never been in my position physically.

It's a pain. Again, i'm telling myself, this week, that I'm going to go sign up for the gym and go to it. Hopefully I'll do it this week.
 
I'm definitely feeling a lot more lucid since my last meltdown.

Despite failing out of my old college, it's still possible for me to make it into the music college I wanted to get into. I just have to pass the bass audition. So I've been practicing for that. I haven't been playing since my depression started and man have I gotten rusty.

I think the move will be good for me.



It's really disheartening dealing with my friends. Yeah I'll be moving away, but I'll still be dealing with them online and stuff.

I've been told over and over again that no one will want to date you if you're depressed. I've seen my friends with depression find and maintain relationships with ease.

I've been told that relationships won't cure your depression. But I see it doing just that for people.

All my friends find relationships that pull them out of their depression, and I'm still stuck being single all my life.

And they all got exactly what I want. Thinking about it just makes me feel incredibly miserable.

Maybe I'm not quite in the category of people you're talking about, or maybe I am. I definitely feel that a relationship would pull me out of my depression.

Obviously, some days are worse than others. I don't really feel like I'm "broken." I don't hate myself and I don't feel like I need to be "fixed."

I know who I am and I'm comfortable in my skin for the most part.

I've just been single all my life and its been grinding me down over the past year. It's a constant weight on my life because it's not something I can separate myself from. And that's not going to go away unless I stop being single all my life. It just seems that simple to me.


First of all, that is awesome news about your music school! That puts a big smile on my face - I know what an ordeal that whole thing was for you. Crush that audition! And when you're here in Minnesota, we should grab a beer or something!

The relationship thing is tricky. I'll just say that I have an amazing family; I have an incredible relationship with my wife, who I've known for almost half my life; I have the best friends you could ever ask for, yet I'm still depressed - none of it was a cure-all. These relationships absolutely are what keeps me going, though. They work for me because I think I have a very healthy attitude towards relationships. Many of my closest friends are female, and I would miss out on that if I were trapped in the relationship fallacy. If I refused to accept any relationship that did not fulfill ALL of MY needs, I would have none of these friendships, and my life would be poorer for it. Granted, it works for me because I have this strong romantic relationship already, so it's not something I even consider when I'm becoming friends with someone of the fairer sex. But, man, the perspective it gives me!

I keep trying to finish this post, but I'm struggling to say what I want to say. Just, generally, if you're looking for a relationship that will be the big fix for your life, you can miss out on nurturing relationships that provide smaller fixes, or keep you propped up.
 
First of all, that is awesome news about your music school! That puts a big smile on my face - I know what an ordeal that whole thing was for you. Crush that audition! And when you're here in Minnesota, we should grab a beer or something!

The relationship thing is tricky. I'll just say that I have an amazing family; I have an incredible relationship with my wife, who I've known for almost half my life; I have the best friends you could ever ask for, yet I'm still depressed - none of it was a cure-all. These relationships absolutely are what keeps me going, though. They work for me because I think I have a very healthy attitude towards relationships. Many of my closest friends are female, and I would miss out on that if I were trapped in the relationship fallacy. If I refused to accept any relationship that did not fulfill ALL of MY needs, I would have none of these friendships, and my life would be poorer for it. Granted, it works for me because I have this strong romantic relationship already, so it's not something I even consider when I'm becoming friends with someone of the fairer sex. But, man, the perspective it gives me!

I keep trying to finish this post, but I'm struggling to say what I want to say. Just, generally, if you're looking for a relationship that will be the big fix for your life, you can miss out on nurturing relationships that provide smaller fixes, or keep you propped up.
Thanks, Bagels. And yeah, that was not a fun experience for me. I'm going to make sure it's an experience that's not repeated. And yeah, we should get a drink sometime XD

I could theoretically finish my degree at my old college, maybe take an online course which is all I'd need. But that would require money and loans aren't an option here. I'd have to pay out of pocket. Maybe I'll get around to it someday.

I have a healthy amount of close platonic female friends. Even the friends that are bugging me lately are completely platonic. Two of them are actually dudes. I'm just jealous of their good luck is all.
 
Thanks, Bagels. And yeah, that was not a fun experience for me. I'm going to make sure it's an experience that's not repeated. And yeah, we should get a drink sometime XD

I could theoretically finish my degree at my old college, maybe take an online course which is all I'd need. But that would require money and loans aren't an option here. I'd have to pay out of pocket. Maybe I'll get around to it someday.

I have a healthy amount of close platonic female friends. Even the friends that are bugging me lately are completely platonic. Two of them are actually dudes. I'm just jealous of their good luck is all.

Yeah - I know you're not stuck on the no platonic female friends thing, but that seems like a common thing with people dropping by chat to discuss relationship stuff.

Anyway, good discussion! I'm so glad things are getting back on track for you with school. That is so great to hear.

Drop me a PM when you'll be in Minnesota and we'll figure out some time to hang out. Any other Twin Cities/Minnesota depressionGAFfers? I've never actually met another person from our community in person. I'm really looking forward to making that happen. xD
 
My song rec of the day: Arrows by Fireworks

If I started over, I'd do the same again
If I started over, I would do the same
This is not my swan song or adieu so beware
When they fly my white flag in the air
I'll shoot it down
I'll shoot it down
With arrows

So I stopped running, started walking instead
It was all in my head
Nothing's against me

This war was more civil, I realized
I had to, secede from both sides
 
How has your past record been as far as failing or passing classes? It could possibly be anxiety.

I think you're writing off a therapist (or psychiatrist) far too quickly. No, therapists don't just tell you what you want to hear. (Sometimes they tell you the exact opposite!) Good therapists won't do things for you, no, but they will help you understand yourself better and give you some of the tools in which you can start working towards a better mental state.

As far as socializing goes, I think a lot of people have issues with this and more than they let on. If wanting to socialize with others is something you want to do, it is a skill that can be learned and practiced.

I find all this to be very true too. I have been more helped by therapists being an effective sounding board and teaching me techniques and skills to notice/manage my anxiety.

Socialization is also a skill that can be learned. It just doesn't come right now like most people expect or feel they need it to. Anxiety issues can put an immediacy on everything that is an unreasonable expectation to have on yourself. I still have issues with being comfortable socializing in many environments and situations, but the more I do it, the more I learn. Be forgiving of yourself. Accept yourself, then move on and up from there.
 
Do you enjoy the major itself? I think it's good to chose a path that'll make you able to support yourself, but studying something just because it makes a lot of money does not sound like is enough of a reason for you to dedicate so much time to something that is difficult.

We have a lot of math (and I think some computer science?) majors in DepressionGAF who are always willing to help out. I'm regularly in chat working through a Calc I textbook, and people like MikeDip are super helpful. Don't be afraid to go to tutors either. Most universities will have a center for it.

You're also lucky that you're still in school because it really is one of the easier places to socialize. Find groups that are based around what you're interested in and go attend. :)

I don't know if I'm going to enjoy it or not. I haven't taken any classes yet till tomorrow. If I like it then I'm going to stick with it. If not, then I'm going to take my older brother's advice and switch my major to computer information system. I'll try to find groups but most likely will fail since I'm not comfortable in starting a conversation that will lead to awkwardness.
 
There's no universal awkwardness alert that goes out when you feel uncomfortable. It's important to remember that what is awkward for one person may be totally fine for another. Don't let "awkwardness" stop you from trying new things. It's mostly in your head, I promise. 99% of people only care about how they're doing, and aren't judging you.

Good luck man!
 
why the fuck did i just thought about stuff that happened a long time ago . god damnit. achievement unlocked your mood is ruined for the day
 
Yeah somebody do it! I'm on a phone so properly cutting and pasting is a pain.

Also: many of you seem like computer scientists, is there a thread for that?
 
There's no universal awkwardness alert that goes out when you feel uncomfortable. It's important to remember that what is awkward for one person may be totally fine for another. Don't let "awkwardness" stop you from trying new things. It's mostly in your head, I promise. 99% of people only care about how they're doing, and aren't judging you.

Good luck man!

Thanks. I'll try but won't make any promises because I say a lot of things.
 
There's no universal awkwardness alert that goes out when you feel uncomfortable. It's important to remember that what is awkward for one person may be totally fine for another. Don't let "awkwardness" stop you from trying new things. It's mostly in your head, I promise. 99% of people only care about how they're doing, and aren't judging you.

Good luck man!

I would say this is true as well. When you feel you've messed up and beat yourself up about it, most of the time the other person in this encounter will have forgotten about it rather quickly. Most of us here tend to judge ourselves way more than anyone else actually does. But it can be a hard cycle to break.
 
Well then here goes:

This past friday was the day I passed the 1 year mark in my road to recovery from substance abuse. Being clean for a year is in itself quite an achievement, but I am proudest of the other things in my life that this has helped me build.

But there is a dark side to all this. Namely; the realization that for every thing I now have, there are ten things I have lost/chances I've blown due to my drug abuse and the associated lifestyle. This has been pretty hard on me lately and stands in the way of me appreciating what I still DO have. Seeing now, with a clear head, all the things I could have done (university being a big one) and won't be able to get a shot at again now that I WOULD take big decisions and life seriously. I'm having a hard time accepting the fact that I won't get any second chances in those things that would help me build a better life for myself and become a better person.

This is not saying I am particularly unhappy about the progress I've made, but still something that has been bothering me more and more for quite a while. I keep thinking about the stupid Green Day song 'Boulevard of Broken Dreams', because fuck... that's what it feels like I'm walking on and it sucks sucks sucks.

EDIT: Not that it really matters but if anyone is interested, I was addicted to heroin, benzodiazepines and ketamine.
 
My dad is coming through town and going to visit in about an hour. I don't get to see him that often. This should be nice.
 
Can someone plz make a thread about this? this is the kind of issues I would like to expose to the wider GAF community. But I can't do it myself...

There is also this WHO fact sheet on depression.
http://www.who.int/mental_health/management/depression/en/index.html

The problem with those threads is that it invites ignorant people claiming all kinds of things such as meds being bad, first world problem, "it's all in your head" type responses and doesn't bring in new members as much as you'd think.
 
Well then here goes:

This past friday was the day I passed the 1 year mark in my road to recovery from substance abuse. Being clean for a year is in itself quite an achievement, but I am proudest of the other things in my life that this has helped me build.

But there is a dark side to all this. Namely; the realization that for every thing I now have, there are ten things I have lost/chances I've blown due to my drug abuse and the associated lifestyle. This has been pretty hard on me lately and stands in the way of me appreciating what I still DO have. Seeing now, with a clear head, all the things I could have done (university being a big one) and won't be able to get a shot at again now that I WOULD take big decisions and life seriously. I'm having a hard time accepting the fact that I won't get any second chances in those things that would help me build a better life for myself and become a better person.

This is not saying I am particularly unhappy about the progress I've made, but still something that has been bothering me more and more for quite a while. I keep thinking about the stupid Green Day song 'Boulevard of Broken Dreams', because fuck... that's what it feels like I'm walking on and it sucks sucks sucks.

EDIT: Not that it really matters but if anyone is interested, I was addicted to heroin, benzodiazepines and ketamine.

Just getting it off your chest and out of your head can help sometimes. Also, not to put "positive pressure" on you, but don't sell yourself short. It may not happen right away, but opportunities can present themselves when you least expect it. If you're telling yourself "I'll never get to do this or that" then you really won't because you're shutting that door purposely instead of leaving it open and keeping an eye on what's on the other side. Sorry for getting a bit metaphorical on you there, but I hope it makes some sense. :)
 
Sometimes when I'm lonely,
Don't know why,
Keep thinkin' I won't be lonely,
By and by.


"Hope" by Langston Hughes

This poem's been stuck in my head for the last couple days. Every time I think of it, I feel a little happy.
 
thread has been made:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=661285

Will update as required.

This thread is already having a rough start
(didn't read the rest of the thread though, but I don't have the energy to do so right now.)

I'm sure this has been brought up by someone else, but, how do you deal with waking up in the morning, getting yourself up from your bed, and not putting yourself down?

I suffer many problems. The main issue is..I delude myself into thinking everything is ok. It's bad, but it's what I do. I tell myself, 'tomorrow I'll do it', and it never happens. I wake up, telling myself I'll do it, and either just go back to sleep because I don't want to get up, or tell myself that I'll do it tomorrow...and then the next day...and then the next week.

I know if I keep going down that way, I'll end up killing myself because of...well, my body issues. Day by day, at work, or wherever, I end up just day dreaming about how it would be if I looked better, was fitter, and it just hurts me more because then I drown in the what if's and into the what can be, but when the time comes of pushing myself to do it, I can't. It's a literal block because as rise up to do it, thoughts flood my head of what others will think of me, of the stares I'll get, and that ends up making me not go to the gym or better myself, it stops me from getting a better job or even trying to apply and to go out there. I have weight issues, I should bring it up earlier, but that's the main issue. When I have a day off, I want to stay in and not go out because I'm afraid I'm going to be judged. I don't want to go work out to better myself because..of the same reason, and end up being in a vicious circle.

My parents don't understand, so they just insult me of 'Why can't you do this or that, why are you always on the computer, etc. etc.' and it just racks up. Even when I've tried to explain to them, they just don't understand because they've never been in my position physically.

It's a pain. Again, i'm telling myself, this week, that I'm going to go sign up for the gym and go to it. Hopefully I'll do it this week.

I wish someone will reply to you, but I have no energy to reply...Just know I'm experiencing the same thing and it's becoming unbearable to wake up these days...With school starting, it doesn't make it better.
 
I think Bagels will enjoy it:

“It never occurred to them that God may have provided the world with a vast array of very brainy medical types for the very reason of solving problems such as theirs. However, there is one thing that the medical profession cannot do and that is save people from being idiots.”
― Craig Ferguson, Between the Bridge and the River
 
Well then here goes:

This past friday was the day I passed the 1 year mark in my road to recovery from substance abuse. Being clean for a year is in itself quite an achievement, but I am proudest of the other things in my life that this has helped me build.

But there is a dark side to all this. Namely; the realization that for every thing I now have, there are ten things I have lost/chances I've blown due to my drug abuse and the associated lifestyle. This has been pretty hard on me lately and stands in the way of me appreciating what I still DO have. Seeing now, with a clear head, all the things I could have done (university being a big one) and won't be able to get a shot at again now that I WOULD take big decisions and life seriously. I'm having a hard time accepting the fact that I won't get any second chances in those things that would help me build a better life for myself and become a better person.

This is not saying I am particularly unhappy about the progress I've made, but still something that has been bothering me more and more for quite a while. I keep thinking about the stupid Green Day song 'Boulevard of Broken Dreams', because fuck... that's what it feels like I'm walking on and it sucks sucks sucks.

EDIT: Not that it really matters but if anyone is interested, I was addicted to heroin, benzodiazepines and ketamine.

Are you in any kind of therapy?

I think we all feel "stuck" and seemingly doomed to repeat the past. While in certain situations that might be true, some opportunities will indeed will never happen again, it is not doing any good to act as if it is true. You are one year sober, you are thinking critically about your thoughts, you realize some mistakes. Those are all signs of progress and when the next opportunity comes, jump on it.

“I Wish I Didn’t Feel Like This!”

Wishful thinking: one of the mind’s favorite pastimes. (“I wish I felt more confident.” “I wish I didn’t feel so anxious.”) This can keep us wrapped up in second-guessing ourselves for hours, imagining how our lives could be so much better if only we felt differently. (And does this help us deal with the life we have now?) And the list could go on and on. Suffice to say, the thinking self has lots of ways either to directly intensify our bad feelings or else to get us to waste a huge amount of time uselessly brooding on them. So from now on, catch your mind in the act when it tries to hook you with these questions and comments. Then simply refuse to play the game. Thank your mind for trying to waste your time and focus instead on some useful or meaningful activity. You may find it helpful to say, “Thanks, Mind, but I’m not playing today.”

Harris, Russ; Hayes, Steven (2011-03-15). The Happiness Trap: A guide to ACT: the mindfulness-based program for reducing stress, overcoming fear, and creating a rich and meaningful life (pp. 94-95). Shambhala Publications. Kindle Edition.
 
I'm sure this has been brought up by someone else, but, how do you deal with waking up in the morning, getting yourself up from your bed, and not putting yourself down?

I suffer many problems. The main issue is..I delude myself into thinking everything is ok. It's bad, but it's what I do. I tell myself, 'tomorrow I'll do it', and it never happens. I wake up, telling myself I'll do it, and either just go back to sleep because I don't want to get up, or tell myself that I'll do it tomorrow...and then the next day...and then the next week.

I know if I keep going down that way, I'll end up killing myself because of...well, my body issues. Day by day, at work, or wherever, I end up just day dreaming about how it would be if I looked better, was fitter, and it just hurts me more because then I drown in the what if's and into the what can be, but when the time comes of pushing myself to do it, I can't. It's a literal block because as rise up to do it, thoughts flood my head of what others will think of me, of the stares I'll get, and that ends up making me not go to the gym or better myself, it stops me from getting a better job or even trying to apply and to go out there. I have weight issues, I should bring it up earlier, but that's the main issue. When I have a day off, I want to stay in and not go out because I'm afraid I'm going to be judged. I don't want to go work out to better myself because..of the same reason, and end up being in a vicious circle.

My parents don't understand, so they just insult me of 'Why can't you do this or that, why are you always on the computer, etc. etc.' and it just racks up. Even when I've tried to explain to them, they just don't understand because they've never been in my position physically.

It's a pain. Again, i'm telling myself, this week, that I'm going to go sign up for the gym and go to it. Hopefully I'll do it this week.
Body issues are tough. I haven't had quite the same kind, but I totally get the whole "I'm going to do something about it today!" and then just not doing it. Or doing it and feeling so much worse and deciding it's all hopeless.

Is there anyone you could go to the gym with? Or perhaps specific classes so that you'll feel like you have a set time you have to be present for. At the gym I would go to, there would be a variety of body types. Some people were overweight, and no one seemed to care or stare or anything like that.

We tend to incorrectly assume that people care more about us than they really do. They're usually far too wrapped up in what they're doing to pay anyone else too much attention.

I don't know if I'm going to enjoy it or not. I haven't taken any classes yet till tomorrow. If I like it then I'm going to stick with it. If not, then I'm going to take my older brother's advice and switch my major to computer information system. I'll try to find groups but most likely will fail since I'm not comfortable in starting a conversation that will lead to awkwardness.
Okay, good to hear that you're not stuck on just one career path. I know many people like that due to outside pressure: usually parents.

People join groups, especially in college, to make new friends. And a lot of those will be people who don't consider themselves particularly outgoing and maybe even think they're socially awkward. I don't know if it makes you feel better, but knowing that other people are probably just as nervous as me tends to make starting conversations a bit easier. And you have far more to gain than you have to lose from doing something like that.
 
I'm seeing a psychologist tomorrow. I had been seeing an LPC since 2011, but our progress together came to a crawl. I stopped seeing her in June or so, and dragged my feet before setting up an appointment with this psychologist. I know I should prepare some questions and do a bit of research, but I'm so dysfunctional that isn't going to happen. In my current state I'm so reactive rather than proactive. I hope she can help me, I really need it.
 
Okay, good to hear that you're not stuck on just one career path. I know many people like that due to outside pressure: usually parents.

People join groups, especially in college, to make new friends. And a lot of those will be people who don't consider themselves particularly outgoing and maybe even think they're socially awkward. I don't know if it makes you feel better, but knowing that other people are probably just as nervous as me tends to make starting conversations a bit easier. And you have far more to gain than you have to lose from doing something like that.

I'm bad in making new friends. Usually I do talk to people, but our conversations were mostly on college related work. Right now, I'm having doubts myself in general. During my prayer, I thought about my family being with me, even though I can't stand them sometimes, and I began to shed tears. I wish I could be better, I wish I could do something about myself even though I'm a flaw human being. My parents has been supporting me over the years, and what did I give them in return? They tell me to get a job so I can support myself in the future, but no because of my doubts. My parents, especially my mom, needs money. And I failed them as their son. I'm still shedding tears.
 
I made another piece...I'm trying to study completed pieces and backgrounds and seeing which ones i can actually do...Though unfortunately they never turn out well and I'm left with a different result...that never looks nice:

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Anguish

Inspired by a sunset background...that obviously doesn't look anything like this....*cries* I'm in so much pain right now.....
 
I actually had somewhat decent day today.

Had a nice steak dinner at a steak house tonight due because they had a comp. The dinner was incredible.

Also, this put a nice smile on my face. Apparently, it's made by the same developer as Fortune Summoners.

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It's called Minarai Mahoutsukai Fuwaru no Bouken and nobody has ever heard of it because it's only in Japan and is a doujin (Japanese indie) game.
 
Hello depression-gaf, I think I may be depressed. I've been following this thread for some time and been hesitant to post here but here goes.

I have a "normal" life, job, gf, friends, an amazing family, things I've read people here wish for, yet despite having that, I feel empty inside. I wake up, go to work, hang out/relax after work, do stuff on weekends but even then there's still that feeling of emptiness inside. I honestly feel like a robot at times, just going through the works day in and day out. I try new things to see if it would help, and it does, for the duration of whatever it is I'm doing then after same feeling of emptiness returns. I don't know why I feel this way, I should be happy but I'm not. Anyone else feel like this?

Kinda feel bad for posting this cause some of you guys are going through things that are far worse than I'm going through so feel free to ignore this post, just needed to vent a little.
 
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