Gamesindustry: Xbox Live Compute (Cloud Servers) offered free to devs
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Garrett 2U
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Aaaaand game changer.
Can someone just send a tweet out to the respawn guys and ask them if they are still going to have to pay for dedicated servers? I would but I don't have a tweeter.
SeaOfMadness
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The article doesn't walk around it. It comes right out and says it. If it turns out to be true, then the article writer needs to post an apology and if it's not true, Phil shouldnt be tweeting it, he should be calling them to correct their mistake. But on face value, there's no doubt that it says dedicated servers for every single game:
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Driving the point home!
I'm not really being vague. I always had good games.
Muppet of a Man
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This is probably the single best piece of news for Xbox One, online services being MS's strong point.
Great news, especially if these cloud services are truly free for devs no strings attached.
Great news, especially if these cloud services are truly free for devs no strings attached.
HawksWinStanley
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Even after reading this four posts in a row I can't tell if it's sarcasm or not.
SwiftDeath
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Yes I actually think they mean dedicated servers for MP games now
So it looks like Xbox Compute does indeed mean Dedicated Servers for MP
Good news then for sure
Gemüsepizza
Member
And...? It's a game which you can't play on Xbox anyway (and it has a hybrid solution). This can only be an advantage if the game actually is on Xbox. And we don't know if games which are on both platforms won't have dedicated servers on both. That's also why statements like this are pretty ridiculous:
Removing all doubt. Dedicated servers for free. Available to all Xbox One devs.
Do you really think a AAA studio that spends millions of dollars making a game, will choose not to have dedicated servers on the PS4 because its not free?
In every thread, wtf? stop taking those pills man.
no hes thinking that every single game on the xbox one is having dedis
every single one
viveks86
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There's a dedicated thread on it
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=697558&highlight=built+for+the+future
Ahh I see. Well, let's hope that's the case! Better multiplayer gaming on either system should be celebrated.
SwiftDeath
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majority of games with multiplayer will. there's no reason not to, unless it's like a fighting game or something, then there may not be much of a benefit
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
Even if it wasn't for every single game it would still effect me for the ones that it was on.
bleachrude
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The question is...
Does this mean that companies need to code twice? Once for peer to peer (assuming both Nintendo and Sony don't match this ---I assume that on the Wii developers have to pay for it) and once for dedicated?
That doesn't sound likely IMO. I don't know if a company would bother since this _IS_ more work for the developer.
Most likely, they'll code for the highest console population (Sony - thus peer to peer). Truly, how many companies would actually bother with this?
Does this mean that companies need to code twice? Once for peer to peer (assuming both Nintendo and Sony don't match this ---I assume that on the Wii developers have to pay for it) and once for dedicated?
That doesn't sound likely IMO. I don't know if a company would bother since this _IS_ more work for the developer.
Most likely, they'll code for the highest console population (Sony - thus peer to peer). Truly, how many companies would actually bother with this?
Let me know when any game has Dedicated servers on one console and not on the other. All devs want parity among their console versions. AND Sony is helping devs pay for them too, as seen in the CoD case...
I think it's pitiful that some people are trying to spin this into a negative. On the article on Xbox Wire article it is clearly emphasized that these resources are free. From the Xbox Wire article: Xbox Wire
The people that are stating there most be some catch like Xbox Live price hike or this is just for triple A devs are spreading FUD, because you simply can't prove that this is the case. Especially since they've stated that this is available to every developer multiple times in their press releases.
And then there's this:
The people that are stating there most be some catch like Xbox Live price hike or this is just for triple A devs are spreading FUD, because you simply can't prove that this is the case. Especially since they've stated that this is available to every developer multiple times in their press releases.
And then there's this:
Tripp Daily
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if every box has their own dedicated server, you could make it P2P in the cloud. a whole bunch of dedicated servers talking to each other.
that's if the dev wanted to be fairly lazy.
So your saying MS is choosing to subsidize the cost of ps4 dedis? That may be true, but some creative contracting language that either forces devs to use Azure for multiplat dedis or increases costs if the dev pays AWS for PS4 dedis would be be reasonable from MS perspective I would think.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Sounds good for online MP to me.
Garrett 2U
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Not really, multiplayer server code won't change much being hosted on a peer box vs an external box.
No. Big companies will still just do dedi's for both but the small to mid games will benefit the most. Those that use it extensively for free will probably not come out for ps4 or they will come up with a different solution. I bet below is doing some cool stuff with this already. I really think the indies will use this the most.
CitizenCope
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Tell me how to feel guys. I want to feel good about this but it doesn't seem right to feel that way on GAF lately.
Gemüsepizza
Member
What.
Both.
Considering how very few third party games will be exclusive either console, I seriously doubt that's the case.
Garrett 2U
Member
Dedicated servers. And whatever else.
"Improved multiplayer game experiences – This is perhaps the most obvious example of what is possible with Xbox Live Compute – dedicated servers!"
Naw Microsoft can't force those terms on a company but it will mean that the XBO version will be considered more profitable.
Just gotta wait and see.
I wonder what brought up a sudden change like this, assuming Respawn having to pay is true. I'd assume this kind of stuff was expensive as all hell.
They even state that they make it free to make the transition easy, that pretty much confirms it won't stay like that. Honestly why would you ever think MS would offer these very expensive ressources and services for free? Name me one reason using common sense.
iamshadowlark
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Im somehow skeptical that every Tom, Dick and Jane gets free cloud resources for every game. At least nothing substantial.
Tripp Daily
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Go ahead and feel great! You have permission!
If free, azure optmized net code can port over to ps4 or even pc versions where ms can sell azure services for those platforms while giving away azure compute on xbox one. Azure free on xbox one is the hook to keep devs from going to aws for non ms multiplats.
iamshadowlark
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Im somehow skeptical that every Tom, Dick and Jane gets free cloud resources for every game. At least nothing substantial.
I doubt it's unlimited but free anything is better than free nothing when it comes to resources for devs.
forcefullpower
Banned
I am really starting to hate them with a passion. i realy hope they leave the gaming industry.
How does that confirm anything? Giving it free vs charging for it makes it more likely that developers will utilize the resource it doesn't say anything about further down the line. Transition there means building games with cloud resources vs not building games with cloud resources.
It's unlimited in the sense that they have no client cap.
It's limited in the sense of how much compute they have. "One at home and three in the cloud"
Salvor.Hardin
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Er what? How in the world is this a bad thing?