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All Cave iOS Shooters have been updated to iphone 5 screen size! I wish they would implement the iOS7 controller support...

I wish they'd update Deathsmiles for Android. The game plays quite well on my original Galaxy Note, but it could look so much better if it had sensible scaling options and/or the resolution of the 360 port. It has crashed once or twice too, but not more than once in twenty games or so - not a huge problem. I only play Smartphone mode, I have the real thing on the 360.

I also bought Espgaluda II which has the same fuzziness problem, but that game is just so pointless on a touchscreen, I'm not going to play it anyway. If they aren't going to redesign the control scheme and tune the mechanics to work with the touchscreen, why release it? Why not instead release Espgaluda, which would have had less controls to begin with, and would have been easier to tune?

 

[LiK]

Man, iOS Bug Princess 2 Black Label achievements and my scores are not registering even tho I just beat the game…

Looks like the latest updates fixes all the Game Center bugs and they even deleted OpenFeint. Amen.

Too bad I won't be able to download the updates until I get wifi after work. lol

 

[.la1n]

Niiiiiice been waiting for this update

 

[oneida]

Bookmarked. For when I've got two hours. I've never really gotten into the game and really understood how it plays but this should help!

Still taking another few weeks break for shooters (except my Mii Force), but I'll be back in the saddle in October.

after finishing this video my appreciation for deathsmiles greatly embiggened.

I always liked the game, but I had no idea how scoring worked. I especially like the suicide bullet scoring

 

[sixteen-bit]

I need to get back into Deathsmiles. I liked it but I only played it a couple times.

 

[jbueno]

I need to get back into Deathsmiles. I liked it but I only played it a couple times.

As soon as I get a new 360, I´m getting back into it as well. Still need to 1CC the game with Follett and Casper. Oh and I´ve yet to break 100,000,000 points, last time I tried I was like 4 or 6 million points away from it. Such a fun game.

 

[oneida]

I've just ordered Espgaluda II, competing my NA- compatible 360 CAVE collection!

have I forgotten any?

akai katana
deathsmiles
deathsmiles iix
dodonpachi resurrection
dodonpachi saidaioujou
espgaluda ii
guwange
muchi muchi pork/ pink sweets
mushihimesama futari

for non CAVE stuff I have

ikaruga
radiant silvergun
raiden fighters aces
raiden iv
shooting love 10th anni (deltazeal & xiizeal)

lotsa holes there

 

[japtor]

Guwange and Deathsmiles IIX are digital only right?

 

[InfiniteNine]

Guwange and Deathsmiles IIX are digital only right?

Yes to both for NA consoles and Retail for DSIIX on NTSC-J ones.

 

[Yes Boss!]

I've just ordered Espgaluda II, competing my NA- compatible 360 CAVE collection!

have I forgotten any?

akai katana
deathsmiles
deathsmiles iix
dodonpachi resurrection
dodonpachi saidaioujou
espgaluda ii
guwange
muchi muchi pork/ pink sweets
mushihimesama futari

Nin 2 Jump on XBLA.

For non-Cave, Eschatos (with Judgement Silversword and Cardinal) and Ginga Force are absolute must-haves.

 

[oneida]

Nin 2 Jump on XBLA.

For non-Cave, Eschatos (with Judgement Silversword and Cardinal) and Ginga Force are absolute must-haves.

yesss I definitely want them. almost got that bundle instead of Espgaluda 2 but it's about twice as expensive.

Bullet Soul seems skippable?

 

[Yes Boss!]

Bullet Soul seems skippable?

Definitely skippable. (Unless you are going for 100% of the region-free titles then it is worth it). I guess there is a sequel of sorts coming out so might want to wait and see how that one pans out.

The Qute double pack is pricey but don't forget you get four games. Judgement Silversword itself is just as good (if not better) than most of the 360-release shooters, including those of Cave.

 

[system11]

yesss I definitely want them. almost got that bundle instead of Espgaluda 2 but it's about twice as expensive.

Bullet Soul seems skippable?

Bullet Soul is hugely underrated, you should definitely try it out. It's got a real classic 90s feel to it which is missing from most more recent titles. Here's a video I made about 2 years ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8b7J2hoU_w

 

[jbueno]

Bullet Soul is hugely underrated, you should definitely try it out. It's got a real classic 90s feel to it which is missing from most more recent titles. Here's a video I made about 2 years ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8b7J2hoU_w

That actually looks pretty nice. I remember enjoying the demo on XBL too.

 

[Yes Boss!]

That actually looks pretty nice. I remember enjoying the demo on XBL too.

It is pretty fun. I certainly like it. A bit different from anything else of the 360 shmup catalog. I always appreciated that.

But, if you gotta pick your battles and choose a game (for finances, etc) there are others that like Eschatos and Ginga that make more sense.

 

[gunstarhero]

Bullet Soul is hugely underrated, you should definitely try it out. It's got a real classic 90s feel to it which is missing from most more recent titles. Here's a video I made about 2 years ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8b7J2hoU_w

I agree - this game seems to go unnoticed most of the time, but it's REALLY fun.

Looking forward to Bullet Soul Infinite...whatever it may be! http://www.siliconera.com/2013/08/11/bullet-soul-infinite-burst-blasting-off-to-xbox-360-next-year/

 

[adversesolutions]

So CAVE's latest financials are out, and they aren't great. They posted a loss of about $600k, which sounds bad but considering they were basically completely quiet this quarter, it's not awful. Their last quarter was a about a $150k loss as well.

http://www.cave.co.jp/ir/index.php

Gritty analysis in Japanese here:
http://gamebiz.jp/?p=123181

There was a bit of good news in their financial report though, it looks like Donpachin, the original iOS game they've been promising will be releasing in November 2013.

They also have two other iOS games they've been developing as an out-sourcer, but these are not shooters and are aimed at a broader audience. All three of these are apparently releasing in November.

Absolutely zero about anything arcade-related in the latest financials, so for now that chapter seems to be closed. Maybe a couple quarters ago you could still find mentions of arcade in their quarterly reports, but not now.

Given that the arcade market is now one of three things: big cabinet games like Border Break etc., multi-game systems like NESSiCA and All.net Plus Multi, and Crane Games, it would certainly be a tough environment to jump back into. Especially considering that the machines CAVE's games should be on (NESSiCA and APM) are almost exclusively dominated by fighters.

 

[danmaku]

ouch

I suppose the arcade version of Akai Katana Shin didn't do too well, did it?

 

[adversesolutions]

ouch

I suppose the arcade version of Akai Katana Shin didn't do too well, did it?

That game actually had a chance since it had a bit of buzz being the first CAVE game on NESiCA. Problem was the very noticeable input lag on the game. Like, materially worse than the 360 version of Shin. Maybe as much as a second of input lag (just my experience though).

They also made alterations to the game system which were mostly good, but also introduced boss milking. So all in all it's arguably a downgrade from the 360 verison, and there just simply wasn't much reason to play it.

 

[StarCreator]

ouch

I suppose the arcade version of Akai Katana Shin didn't do too well, did it?

Besides the above, we were talking a bit about this in the other thread too (regarding Caladrius, but same applies here) - it's on NESiCA, which offers the player a choice of which game to put on. More often than not, it gets set to boot a fighting game and that's that.

 

[Yes Boss!]

OMG!

New iOS game. Can't wait!

 

[BOTEC]

I bet Cave could make a pretty good UFO catcher.

That new iOS thing looks bonkers. Will check it out.

 

[adversesolutions]

Random, but: two things about this image remind me of Yagawa, the twin Hadou Gun red trails from the front of the craft and the Muchi Pork-esque word balloons with letters in them. Wonder if he's involved.

 

[Yes Boss!]

I was thinking something similar.

It also has a cool world map. God, I'm hoping we can break the stages into chunks with indicidual leaderboards and a cummulative.

So many potentially coold things in those two menu photos on the right. Can't wait to explore it and have fun. FUN!

November already has a new EAD Mario, and a squel to SNES Zelda. And now this. Too much!

(Hoping it runs on a 4S. Screen looks really thin, like for 5 and beyond)

 

[Tain]

Bummer about the financials.

 

[BNGames]

Some vids I posted recently

Mobile Light Force 1 (You can find this for 5 bucks!)

Robo Aleste (Good reason to own a Sega CD)

 

[sixteen-bit]

Bummer about the financials.

Nothing gold can stay

 

[system11]

I don't know how many people in this thread own the arcade boards, but I've identified a common fault on the CV1000 based games, just managed to get one of the bad boards from someone and wrote up the diagnosis and repair. Hopefully it will save someone from ditching a repairable PCB sometime in the future.

Cave CV1000 colour problems

I own all of them bar Akai Katana and SDOJ so I was getting concerned seeing all the broken Futaris in Japan.

 

[Tain]

Almost sounds like it's time to hit up Japanese auctions for cheap PCBs.

 

[system11]

Almost sounds like it's time to hit up Japanese auctions for cheap PCBs.

I'd already have done that if there was money in it Trouble is they're selling working and faulty all as working, at the same price. Japanese Yahoo sellers can be pretty ropey, especially the high volume ones.

 

[Dash Kappei]

I was thinking something similar.

It also has a cool world map. God, I'm hoping we can break the stages into chunks with indicidual leaderboards and a cummulative.

So many potentially coold things in those two menu photos on the right. Can't wait to explore it and have fun. FUN!

November already has a new EAD Mario, and a squel to SNES Zelda. And now this. Too much!

(Hoping it runs on a 4S. Screen looks really thin, like for 5 and beyond)

"Hoping" it runs on 4s?! I'm gonna be super pissed if it doesn't run on my Mini!

 

[Yes Boss!]

"Hoping" it runs on 4s?! I'm gonna be super pissed if it doesn't run on my Mini!

I'm pretty sure we will be good. Dodonpachi Maximum ran fine and they just put a thin wallpaper on the sides to accomodate the wider screen on the non-5 machines.

 

[shaowebb]

Pulled the trigger today on some Cave titles. I got a short vacation and didn't actually spend any of my cash so I got to use it on something small online. Rather than try again at Espgaluda 2 (even though I still want that thing for the time slow and bullet cancelling goodness)

...I tried to maximize my purchase and got Muchi Muchi Pork/Pink Sweets.

It'll be arriving soon and I'm eager to get cracking. I understand Muchi Pork has a rhythm involved with generating pigs and filling the Lard Meter. Im not certain on anything with Pink Sweets though.

Anyone here able to break down quick and easy how the scoring, and abilities operate in these Cave titles so I go in knowing how to try and generate my meter and get my scores?

 

[5amshift]

Been waiting for my copy of Ketsui PS3 from Play-Asia for well over a month now. Hope I get to play it soon..

 

[sixteen-bit]

Been waiting for my copy of Ketsui PS3 from Play-Asia for well over a month now. Hope I get to play it soon..

Cheap shipping?

 

[Dash Kappei]

Been waiting for my copy of Ketsui PS3 from Play-Asia for well over a month now. Hope I get to play it soon..

I got my MMP/PS CTB a couple of weeks ago after like... 50 days or close to that. From YesAsia, but even then my last order with PA took over a month (cheapest shipping option).

 

[danmaku]

Pulled the trigger today on some Cave titles. I got a short vacation and didn't actually spend any of my cash so I got to use it on something small online. Rather than try again at Espgaluda 2 (even though I still want that thing for the time slow and bullet cancelling goodness)

...I tried to maximize my purchase and got Muchi Muchi Pork/Pink Sweets.

It'll be arriving soon and I'm eager to get cracking. I understand Muchi Pork has a rhythm involved with generating pigs and filling the Lard Meter. Im not certain on anything with Pink Sweets though.

Anyone here able to break down quick and easy how the scoring, and abilities operate in these Cave titles so I go in knowing how to try and generate my meter and get my scores?

Muchi Muchi Pork (from the MMP/PS thread):

The medals follow the same system of Raizing games: each wave of medals increase in value from 100 to 10.000 points. To start the next "wave" you must clear the screen from all the medals of the previous value. So you should:

- charge the lard bar by picking up piggies
- use lard attack
- switch to shot to suck in all the medals
- when there are no more medals on screen use lard attack again
- repeat (and recharge the lard bar if needed)

You want to increase the medal value as fast as possible, so at the beginning of the first level you should repeat this cycle again and again with short bursts of the lard attack. When you reach 10.000, try to keep it as long as you can. It's important to notice that dying doesn't reset your chain, the chain resets only if you let the medals fall out of the screen (of course this can happen when you die and there are a lot of medals on screen).

There's also a lot of boss milking, by using bombs and suicides to get more bombs, but doing so jacks up the rank very fast so I'm not trying it until I'm more familiar with the game.

Pink Sweets: it's simpler, just pick up medals and don't die (easier said than done). You can let some of the medals drop, the chain won't break unless the last medal falls out of the screen. Actually, letting some of the 10k medals drop is a good way to decrease the rank and stay alive! You can also milk bosses, like in MMP.

Arrange and 1.01 modes in both games are different and I'll let someone else explain them (never played any of those modes, except MMP arrange).

 

[Yes Boss!]

Got a couple HD cabs last month...specifically one for verticals and one for horizontals. Both fully wired for J-360 playback. I thought I was gonna have to go VGA but both are ridiculously lag-less using DVI/HDMI (I use the instant shield button on Eschatos to check), so I'm using the HDMI.

I could only use one at a time because my stepdown did not have enough wattage...now that I got a second for the other cab I can run both simultaneously. Finally feels like a little Cave arcade in my barracks room!

Great way to end this gen and make use of my absolute love for J-360 as a platform:

 

[japtor]

Nice, are those Vewlixs (...that name does not pluralize well) or one of those custom kits?

 

[Yes Boss!]

Nice, are those Vewlixs (...that name does not pluralize well) or one of those custom kits?

Picked them up from the stock that Neo Legend sells in Paris.

Branded as Vewlix L but they are 220 out the box and have a super nice 1080p SHARP-branded screen. Lots more inputs because of that. They also come equipped with tons of extra junk and boards in them for jamma, CGA-VGA converters (which I'll never use).

Looking at the thread on Neo Arcadia and Arcade Otaku the last few months I've never really been able to figure out exactly if they are licensed jobs, fakes, or whatever. They seem created for the Chinese market. Having them for a few weeks I totally love them, though. And they were relatively cheap.

I also got them amped for sound and decked with Seimitsu, seeing as they were mostly gonna be for Cave games and my J-shooter collection.

 

[sixteen-bit]

would the plural be Vewlixes?

 

[Beckx]

Got a couple HD cabs last month...specifically one for verticals and one for horizontals. Both fully wired for J-360 playback. I thought I was gonna have to go VGA but both are ridiculously lag-less using DVI/HDMI (I use the instant shield button on Eschatos to check), so I'm using the HDMI.

I could only use one at a time because my stepdown did not have enough wattage...now that I got a second for the other cab I can run both simultaneously. Finally feels like a little Cave arcade in my barracks room!

Great way to end this gen and make use of my absolute love for J-360 as a platform:

Gorgeous cabs man.

 

[hipgnosis]

This is beautiful.

 

[BOTEC]

Viewlixi? Are they made of wood or plastic?

 

[adversesolutions]

would the plural be Viewlixes?

The plural is actually pronounced "Blazblue".

 

[Tain]

Great looking cabs. That site is awfully tempting...

 

[sixteen-bit]

Viewlixi? Are they made of wood or plastic?

Metal and plastic

edit: I keep forgetting it's Vewlix not Viewlix.

 

[Yes Boss!]

Metal and plastic

Yeah, I would say it is about 80% metal, 15% plastic, and (surprisingly) 5% wood. Wood are the four speaker cubes and the two trays.

 

[BOTEC]

Metal and plastic

edit: I keep forgetting it's Vewlix not Viewlix.

Ha ha, I got fooled too. They look quite nice. Now I want one. Good thing I have zero room for something that big in my apartment. Keeps me from making (more) irresponsible financial decisions.

 

[japtor]

Picked them up from the stock that Neo Legend sells in Paris.

Branded as Vewlix L but they are 220 out the box and have a super nice 1080p SHARP-branded screen. Lots more inputs because of that. They also come equipped with tons of extra junk and boards in them for jamma, CGA-VGA converters (which I'll never use).

Looking at the thread on Neo Arcadia and Arcade Otaku the last few months I've never really been able to figure out exactly if they are licensed jobs, fakes, or whatever. They seem created for the Chinese market. Having them for a few weeks I totally love them, though. And they were relatively cheap.

I also got them amped for sound and decked with Seimitsu, seeing as they were mostly gonna be for Cave games and my J-shooter collection.

Interesting, I was wondering what kind of inputs were on there. Sounds like they're legit but are only made for certain stuff (like TypeX1) with possible upgrades for everything else (to "Vewlix F"?), wonder if the stock Vewlix L is supposed to come with that other stuff you got.

Hows the sound out of those speakers?

Ha ha, I got fooled too. They look quite nice. Now I want one. Good thing I have zero room for something that big in my apartment. Keeps me from making (more) irresponsible financial decisions.

The control panel folds up, stick it against a wall and it's like there's nothing there!