Fahrenheit
Banned
Yeah I heard that and a lot of people talked about how he was a furry and the game was gonna be some furry porn or something. It didn't come off creepy at all and turned out to be one of my favorite 2D games of all time.
Anthropomorphic animals in games | Does it influence your buying decision?
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Yeah I heard that and a lot of people talked about how he was a furry and the game was gonna be some furry porn or something. It didn't come off creepy at all and turned out to be one of my favorite 2D games of all time.
Do you consider Banjo Kazooie to be a "fetish" or whatever game?
Well if you don't you better not open up the concept artist's dA.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
the hell
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
That's why I don't get the "don't fetishize" argument. How does one define it anyway?
Don't feed the troll.
Also I find ironic if you check that poster's history. He's a fanboy who uses "opinions" for defense but lashes out against others. He'd fit right in Sonygaf.
Don't feed the troll.
Also I find ironic if you check that poster's history. He's a fanboy who uses "opinions" for defense but lashes out against others. He'd fit right in Sonygaf.
I don't think Sine Mora even really counts, looking at the game and how all the 3D statues and such are of humans and the completely randomized specieses of the pilots it seems more like they figured that because you can't look at the portrait of the dialog while you're busy dealing with massive flak fire that they should make the pilot portraits more varied than just a bunch of people with helmets.
tiny raptor
Member
Wow, I didn't know Vigil was ever going to make a Sly game. I don't really like the first two shots (Sly looks too badass), but the rest look good.
And huh, they are concepts that ended up in Sanzaru's game.
And huh, they are concepts that ended up in Sanzaru's game.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Some of it anyway.
And the early shots looked like action figures lol
And the early shots looked like action figures lol
I guess unlike some. I'm not sexually attracted to animals. I do not see it all!
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Yeah, furry nipples is another big no-no for me.
Same here. Anyone else find it hilariously creepy that users like to go into your past comments to discredit you instead of actually trying to say something worthwhile?
Oh well, can't blame them. Got nothing to stand on, just a bunch of weird fetishists.
Rabid-Coot
Member
Polioliolio
Member
But he actually has a Bear body. That's alright in my book.
Anthropomorphize like that, sure, but don't simply place an animal head on top of a human body. It's just stupid and makes no biological or evolutionary sense.
Not to mention it's creepy.
I don't particularly like either design, but it looks to me like the above ones are canines, and the bottom one is a feline? What's wrong with that?
Let's not get into the "evolutionary sense".
But about looking stupid:
Few things are more badass than Black Sad.
The anthropomorphic look is used to give all characters obvious archetypes, while keeping their personalities more in check, and it plays with real historical events, too.
(albinos animals being white supremacists, German Shepard being a cop, Rooster being a US patriot nut etc).
All without having to renounce the more classic noir storytelling, which would be hard to do, when 90% of your characters are going on all 4s.
Creepy is subjective, so whatever.
Most people would say "fuck, teens are weird"
Polioliolio
Member
Great artwork, I like it, but I still think it's a little creepy.
Why can't the characters bodies carry more traits from the animals themselves? Just enough so it doesn't look like an animal head cut and sewn on a human body.
Star Falcon
Member
Anthropomorphic animals are awesome in many medium, from Games (Starfox, Sonic), to Movies, Books (Redwall, Deptford Mice), Cartoons etc etc.
But if you are drawing overly sexualized female cats to jerk off too, then yeah you're a f***ing weirdo.
But if you are drawing overly sexualized female cats to jerk off too, then yeah you're a f***ing weirdo.
My problem with Black Sad is the same as what I've said about this topic in general.
They're all animals and follow the same style, and then suddenly there's very human looking cat women., and to me it kinda breaks the entire style in two.
The Sine Mora cast are the same way. /=,
In the case of BlackSad, some do more than others, mostly though i think is to not get too distracting.
Is one thing to have a sketchy character with the head of a snake, try to stab you with a switchblade, is another to have the same character having to snake around the floor trying to bite you.
I guess it works in a context like the Jungle Book, because the setting is the jungle and the characters aren't driving cars and wearing clothes.
In Black Sad it would be more problematic to resolve.
Then, part of it is surely simply due to a personal design decision by the author.
My point is, though, i don't think it necessarily looks stupid, it's like a story with humans, where though you can give more life to the characters simply by adding the animal elements and using (or subverting) our idealistic ideas of each animal, into social archetypes.
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Spiegelman's MAUS does something similar.
There are plenty of animal looking female characters in BlackSad though.
I agree they cop-out a bit with John's love interests being more humanized cat ladies, but i think that's more to make the reader more comfortable with the idea.
What's wrong with "sexual deviants"?
That's my real question. The OP is like, "I'm not sayin all furries are sexual deviants..." - so what is wrong with sexual deviants? Why should "sexual deviant" be an insult of some kind?
Sexual deviant isn't synonymous with "sex offender", or "rapist", or "dangerous individual" or whatever.
Anyways..
It doesn't influence my buying decisions. I've enjoyed games like Crash Bandicoot, cartoons like Looney Tunes, etc. But I don't enjoy them specifically because of the anthropomorphic animals. I'll let furries enjoy their sexual deviance and I'll enjoy the occasional game or cartoon with animals in it just because they are good games and cartoons.
I think the whole backlash against furries is ridiculous.
That's my real question. The OP is like, "I'm not sayin all furries are sexual deviants..." - so what is wrong with sexual deviants? Why should "sexual deviant" be an insult of some kind?
Sexual deviant isn't synonymous with "sex offender", or "rapist", or "dangerous individual" or whatever.
Anyways..
It doesn't influence my buying decisions. I've enjoyed games like Crash Bandicoot, cartoons like Looney Tunes, etc. But I don't enjoy them specifically because of the anthropomorphic animals. I'll let furries enjoy their sexual deviance and I'll enjoy the occasional game or cartoon with animals in it just because they are good games and cartoons.
I think the whole backlash against furries is ridiculous.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Looks like the troll got banned. I wonder if it's permanent. Then again judging by how the guy posts he wouldn't last at all in GAF. He's probably not a troll - but more like a really misguided newcomer who posts like he's in some other forum.
Thank goodness the games that are being talked don't have them (well, most of the time)!
On a related note, it's Dec 1 here so avatar change to Christmas mode!
Nah there are male felines with defined muzzles while there are female dogs with shorter muzzles.
I love me some Blacksad. Has the fourth book been published in English?
With that said it has the problem of human face animals found in female characters. It's off-putting. Apparently because they want to make them look sexy or something (which they do, since there is sex and nudity in the novel).
Grandville averts that though. You should read it if you want another similar style. Instead of a black cat and a weasel you get a badger and a mouse. And it's set in Steampunk Europe.
Thank goodness the games that are being talked don't have them (well, most of the time)!
On a related note, it's Dec 1 here so avatar change to Christmas mode!
Nah there are male felines with defined muzzles while there are female dogs with shorter muzzles.
I love me some Blacksad. Has the fourth book been published in English?
With that said it has the problem of human face animals found in female characters. It's off-putting. Apparently because they want to make them look sexy or something (which they do, since there is sex and nudity in the novel).
Grandville averts that though. You should read it if you want another similar style. Instead of a black cat and a weasel you get a badger and a mouse. And it's set in Steampunk Europe.
I don't mind it at all, unless romance is involved. Then it feels a bit weird to me. I guess because it brings the implications that these furred beings with animal heads are sexual. I can't relate to that. I have a really hard time taking darker stories with anthropomorphic characters seriously, too. ^^^ Like that just looks silly to me. It's hard to get over it. If you like it, more power to you.
The porn doesn't even factor into it. If anything the Sonic smut is a hilarious trainwreck even though I grew up with the Genesis games. There's probably just as much extreme Final Fantasy hentai out there anyway.
The porn doesn't even factor into it. If anything the Sonic smut is a hilarious trainwreck even though I grew up with the Genesis games. There's probably just as much extreme Final Fantasy hentai out there anyway.
Not sure about English.I love me some Blacksad. Has the fourth book been published in English?
With that said it has the problem of human face animals found in female characters. It's off-putting. Apparently because they want to make them look sexy or something (which they do, since there is sex and nudity in the novel).
Grandville averts that though. You should read it if you want another similar style. Instead of a black cat and a weasel you get a badger and a mouse. And it's set in Steampunk Europe.
I still have to pick it up in Italian, lol.
As i said to XaosWolf, they do cop-out on John's love interests, but they do have female characters with legit animal features.
Probably because you're supposed to identify with John and feel the "attraction" for his love interests, so they kind of direct you towards to more human looking characters.
I don't agree with its effectiveness, to be honest, i can understand the affection just fine without having to be attracted to the shapes.
In The Lion King you can feel the affection between the characters, without wanting to bang the lions.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Hell, I think Pandaren is... weak. In WC3 Pandaren are just bears, with one only appearing in the skirmish tavern as a mercenary serving as a "joke" due to "hah, Asians!"
Yeah they do, the humanesque look is more of a telltale that they're going to put the female character in a "sexy" scene.
Oh and Blacksad 4 is apparently out in English and...
Oh holy fuck balls Blacksad 5 (Amarillo) is out?!
Trailer too. Oh my!
Yeah they do, the humanesque look is more of a telltale that they're going to put the female character in a "sexy" scene.
Oh and Blacksad 4 is apparently out in English and...
Oh holy fuck balls Blacksad 5 (Amarillo) is out?!
Trailer too. Oh my!
Phire Phox
Banned
No, and why the hell would I?
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Upon further consideration, I must admit I've been more disturbed by Batman movie suits having nipples than by nipples on dogmen.
But mainly because it insinuates Batman just isn't taking his job seriously, that being dressing up like an anthropomorphic bat.
But mainly because it insinuates Batman just isn't taking his job seriously, that being dressing up like an anthropomorphic bat.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Batman is a furry though, we all know that.
I'm more or less nonchalant when it comes to this. I wonder if the people vehemently against anthro would skip a game like jade empire?
Not to mention that some of the styles the main character can use turn you into various anthropomorphic demons.
The fact is the mythology used in Jade Empire is based on a lot of things that appear in actual mythology, if you try to avoid anthro in general, you'll miss out on any game that dips heavily into eastern mythology. And Jade Empire is something I would've truly regretted missing.
Not to mention that some of the styles the main character can use turn you into various anthropomorphic demons.
The fact is the mythology used in Jade Empire is based on a lot of things that appear in actual mythology, if you try to avoid anthro in general, you'll miss out on any game that dips heavily into eastern mythology. And Jade Empire is something I would've truly regretted missing.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
There are instances where antropomorphic animals simply look weird, like for example in Skyrim. It just doesn't look right.
In general though I couldn't care less.
Had (and still will have) quite some fun with games like Solatorobo, Inherit the Earth, Starfox and others.
In general though I couldn't care less.
Had (and still will have) quite some fun with games like Solatorobo, Inherit the Earth, Starfox and others.
Oh and Blacksad 4 is apparently out in English and...
Oh holy fuck balls Blacksad 5 (Amarillo) is out?!
Trailer too. Oh my!
It's only out in French (looking at Amazon.it) here.
I guess i'll wait for the translation, since i still have to get 4.
EDIT: Actually, i'll look more into it, i want to see when it comes out here.
EDIT2: Yep, it's just Amazon, apparently it's already out since October.
petran79
Banned
It does influence my decision indeed but first and foremost I look at the game itself.
watching furries in cartoons and comics is much different than playing them in video games.
The main culprit is her:
I think this must have been the most popular character of the show. on the later Halloween video sequel the producers even make a parody of this: a dirty human fan of her terrorizes Babs and Buster!
Similar thing happens now with Bronies.....
Good furries are characters like Ms Brisby from Secret of NiMH and Fievel from an American Tail, especially the sequel.
I read that GN. It was very good read, though I felt that making the main lead both a detective and super strong and invincible and womanizer wasnt needed. it made everything so unrealistic and felt like a pure action GN instead of developing the main character.
I'd felt better if the lead was a pure detective like Sherlock Holmes and left the dirty and muscular work and the womanizing to another character
that was a serious issue that almost put me off. But design was very good nevertheless.
watching furries in cartoons and comics is much different than playing them in video games.
Eh, it's no more disturbing than seeing this
or this
or this
And then there's stuff like Bastet and the like.
Lewd stuff exist on pretty much almost anything, so seeing furries in skimpy clothing is a given.
I guess sheltered is the wrong term. They probably saw them as kids but forgot about them.
The main culprit is her:
I think this must have been the most popular character of the show. on the later Halloween video sequel the producers even make a parody of this: a dirty human fan of her terrorizes Babs and Buster!
Similar thing happens now with Bronies.....
Good furries are characters like Ms Brisby from Secret of NiMH and Fievel from an American Tail, especially the sequel.
Grandville averts that though. You should read it if you want another similar style. Instead of a black cat and a weasel you get a badger and a mouse. And it's set in Steampunk Europe.
I read that GN. It was very good read, though I felt that making the main lead both a detective and super strong and invincible and womanizer wasnt needed. it made everything so unrealistic and felt like a pure action GN instead of developing the main character.
I'd felt better if the lead was a pure detective like Sherlock Holmes and left the dirty and muscular work and the womanizing to another character
that was a serious issue that almost put me off. But design was very good nevertheless.
King Gilga
Member
Depends on how it's drawn.
Stuff like Ratchet, Starfox, that badass lizard bro from the brave story game, or the animal crossing people I'm totally cool with. But art like that dust game or solatrobo game, no freaking way.
And stuff like this is honestly just disgusting and creepy, made me completely avoid the game.
Since I play it more than any game I'll put it in WoW terms, I like both sexes of Tauren and Draeineie, I loooooooove the male worgen. But I hate how gross and creepy female worgen and female pandaren look and honestly look down on anyone who plays them.
Stuff like Ratchet, Starfox, that badass lizard bro from the brave story game, or the animal crossing people I'm totally cool with. But art like that dust game or solatrobo game, no freaking way.
And stuff like this is honestly just disgusting and creepy, made me completely avoid the game.
Since I play it more than any game I'll put it in WoW terms, I like both sexes of Tauren and Draeineie, I loooooooove the male worgen. But I hate how gross and creepy female worgen and female pandaren look and honestly look down on anyone who plays them.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
From what I heard it gets better in later books.
Yeah can't wait for it to be published in English.
There are plenty of animal looking female characters in BlackSad though.
This actually looked pretty cool to me, right up until the moment I realised they all have human hands. The artwork is actually quite beautiful, but those hands just weird me the hell out.
petran79
Banned
I thought it was just one volume! Read a translated version in a bookstore.
the sequels look more interesting. If they're translated I'll read those too
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I actually think human hands are fine (though with the occasional stylized ones like claws or three fingers for reptiles or so).
It's the heads being humanesque for females that's making it weird.
Yeah there are already three volumes, and a fourth one is coming this December.
Funchameleon
Banned
There's a vast ocean of difference between Ratchet or Sonic or Bugs Bunny and Chiseled Wolf-Man in Hawaiian shirt. Sorry to Noogy, super talented guy (not that a lot of furry artists aren't), but his art just manages to verge into full on sexualized animal territory as a cursory Google Image Search will illuminate. That said, I don't care that much; it didn't stop me loving Dust, but it was very nearly in spite of the character art.
You mean they look more like people.
That isn't sexualized.
they just look more like people. Would you have an issue with Sine Mora?
Dust in particular doesn't even look that much like people, its closer to Sly Cooper than anything.
What is sexual about it? Most of the character art in that game is far too ugly to bee seen as sexual anyway. Are you pulling this out of your bum?
Candescence
Member
I don't really get how Dust's character art is seen as well, bad. Sure, it could be much better, but holy crap, I've seen far, far worse anthropomorphic art from so-called 'professionals'. Just look up anything by Ken Penders and you'll know what I mean, ESPECIALLY his most recent work, Jesus Christ. The characters in Dust don't even look remotely sexualized, either, literally every one of them is appropriately dressed (except for Fidget, who obviously was meant to be more 'animal-like' than the rest with the realistic paws and different eyes and whatnot, I can't really picture a sexualized Fidget without putting on more anthro elements). The art in that game is hardly 'bad', not amazing, but it was reasonably pleasing to the eye.
Dust himself, in-game, is excellently animated, which is pretty neat, too.
I don't mind anthro characters unless they look creepy like Sine Mora's (ARGH), but I'm rather open-minded on sexuality and consider the idea that sex is somehow 'worse' than violence to be somewhat backwards, but that's just me.
Dust himself, in-game, is excellently animated, which is pretty neat, too.
I don't mind anthro characters unless they look creepy like Sine Mora's (ARGH), but I'm rather open-minded on sexuality and consider the idea that sex is somehow 'worse' than violence to be somewhat backwards, but that's just me.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
How is Dust sexualized?