1990's Cartoon Survivor (Do-Over)

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If you think that's why it made it to the top 3, then you haven't been paying attention.

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You may be right about this, but strongly believe that it should not have the top spot locked up like the simpsons does with the 90's round. There is a lot I like about Avatar and I do believe it is one of the best of the '00s, but it is not as mature as some of the other shows that should make the list. I wont argue about it being a great show. It has a good story, the continuity is good, animation is great, likable characters, decent humor so it is really solid and a good contender, but it still has some strong contenders from the '00s. I guess this all depends on if we decide on only chidren's shows too.

actually, A:TLA is going up against Futurama. As much as I like Avatar, all in all Futurama (S1-S4) is the stronger show
 
Isn't that what the whole spirit of this thread was? Look at the list in the OP, it is heavily geared towards american childrens animated television shows. The only anime included are shows which had a broad appeal to children (dbz and pokemon). Correct me if I'm wrong.

i think it's a broad representation of what animation in the 90s was on american television. sailor moon, dbz, and pokemon were some of the only anime on television in the 90s. simpsons, beavis and butthead, south park, and home movies were also examples of shows not aimed at children (although not representative of all the shows aimed at adults). there were far more in these categories in the following decade, while animation in that decade became far less focused on children as the saturday morning cartoon died and japanese animation replaced american animation on a lot of blocks.
 
Kill : Hey Arnold! - I never really understood why this had so much success. There are much better Nickelodeon shows.
Kill : Batman: The Animated Series - I used to love this show when I was a kid, but it's gotta go since it's up against the Simpsons.

Save : The Simpsons - Even though The Simpsons is now more like a shadow of his former self, I can't get rid of it. After all, it was the best show of the 90s (and the beginning of the 2000s years because yeah, I like seasons 10-14).
 
Kill : Hey Arnold
Kill : Batman
Save : The Simpsons

EDIT: I picked the simpsons because I still watch seasons 4-7 regularly. Batman was great when I was a kid but it doesn't resonate with me in the same way classic simpsons does. what is Hey Arnold?
 
Kill: Hey Arnold - I had a few friends that loved Hey Arnold, but I never really understood the appeal of this show. I don't think it would even make my personal top 20 honestly. It was well produced, but it just never resonated with me.

Kill: Batman - It pains me to say anything negative about Batman TAS, it's still my favorite piece of Batman media ever. So I'll say this, I haven't watched every episode well over 10 times each and committed them to memory which is not the case with...

Save: The Simpsons - It's been too big a part of my life to suggest anything else.
 
Kill: Hey! Arnold
Kill: Batman: The Animated Series

Save: The Simpsons (not just The Simpsons but CLASSIC ERA 1990s SIMPSONS)
 
Kill: Hey Arnold! - I'm not a Nickelodeon kid, never was and never will be. And honestly I can't really understand why it's in the last 3
Kill: Batman The Animated Series - Loved this series as a kid but I just can't kill the Simpsons, they're family.

Save: The
Classic
Simpsons - Save me Jebus! (Actually, that's not from a classic 90's episode, but still).
 
Kill: Hey Arnold: Never really watched it. All I remember about it is he had a football head
Kill: Batman: Liked it, but didn't really watch It religiously

Save: The Simpsons Because the Simpsons is awesome, and if It doesn't win, my life is ruined.
 
Kill: Hey Arnold! -- I never got that into it. Kid looked like Stewie from Family Guy anyway.
Kill: Batman: The Animated Series -- Against the Simpsons? please.

Save: The Simpsons
 
Kill: Hey Arnold
Kill: The Simpsons

Save: Batman

I actually watched Batman IN the 90s, as opposed to watching Simpsons S01-10 only in the last few years. That's pretty much why I'm picking Batman over Simpsons. Both are excellent in their own ways.

Hey Arnold is a good show, but it has long overstayed its welcome. I think the vast majority of voters don't really think it's a contender for the top 3 or top 5. Top 10 or 15? Sure. I contemplated offering random Gaffers actual bribes (couple of bucks, Steam games) to keep Reboot in this longer. Just for laughs. I think it would've been highly effective.

Is it possible Anihawk did such a thing with Hey Arnold? MAYBE.

 
Kill: Hey Arnold
Kill: The Simpsons

Save: Batman

I actually watched Batman IN the 90s, as opposed to watching Simpsons S01-10 only in the last few years. That's pretty much why I'm picking Batman over Simpsons. Both are excellent in their own ways.

Hey Arnold is a good show, but it has long overstayed its welcome. I think the vast majority of voters don't really think it's a contender for the top 3 or top 5. Top 10 or 15? Sure. I contemplated offering random Gaffers actual bribes (couple of bucks, Steam games) to keep Reboot in this longer. Just for laughs. I think it would've been highly effective.

Is it possible Anihawk did such a thing with Hey Arnold? MAYBE.
Was your manipulation just for Reboot?
 
Kill: Hey Arnold
Kill: Batman
Save: The Simpsons

Hey Arnold was pretty good 'toon - loved that ghost train episode especially - but Batman's just head and shoulders above of it; made Batman the first superhero I ever gave a crap about. Unfortunately for Batman, The Simpsons is the greatest television show of all-time.
 
Lots of saves being used this round...

The Simpsons should be #1. Plain and simple.

It defined 90s television and is arguably the best show ever put on air. The first ten seasons are the impossible bar to hit for any other animated sitcom and will always be the standard we compare other greats to (King of the Hill, etc).
 
Is it possible Anihawk did such a thing with Hey Arnold? MAYBE.

hey arnold stuck around mostly because other shows were gunned after harder. my only coup was against dexter's lab. with animaniacs it was down to whatever wasn't hey arnold so it was either that or rocko. at the very end, it was close, but there was no saving animaniacs (or killing arnold).
 
hey arnold stuck around mostly because other shows were gunned after harder. my only coup was against dexter's lab. with animaniacs it was down to whatever wasn't hey arnold so it was either that or rocko. at the very end, it was close, but there was no saving animaniacs (or killing arnold).

I was thinking of using my save on animaniacs that round, but something came up in real life that I missed the deadline. To top it off, my save could have totally saved Animaniace =\
 
Read the new rules and added a save and second kill.

If I could make a suggestion for the 00s thread? Stop with all the rule changing. It makes it harder to follow, more confusing to participate in, and it cuts the tension and payoff if the rubric keeps sliding around.

If I knew I was going to get another save I wouldn't have been as excited or anxious to use my "only save" during the top ten earlier.
 
With all the new faces I wonder what the results would have looked like had they been around much earlier. Either way, it's nice to see a lot of votes.

Kill: Hey Arnold! - I'm not a Nickelodeon kid, never was and never will be. And honestly I can't really understand why it's in the last 3
Kill: Batman The Animated Series - Loved this series as a kid but I just can't kill the Simpsons, they're family.

Save: The
Classic
Simpsons - Save me Jebus! (Actually, that's not from a classic 90's episode, but still).

It's been Nickelodeon kids against the world for a good potion of the this contest. At least some sensible people are showing up now.
 
Read the new rules and added a save and second kill.

If I could make a suggestion for the 00s thread? Stop with all the rule changing. It makes it harder to follow, more confusing to participate in, and it cuts the tension and payoff if the rubric keeps sliding around.

If I knew I was going to get another save I wouldn't have been as excited or anxious to use my "only save" during the top ten earlier.

i agree. i think having double kills per round was the way to go. it would have definitely kept people's attentions through the top 10.
 
Read the new rules and added a save and second kill.

If I could make a suggestion for the 00s thread? Stop with all the rule changing. It makes it harder to follow, more confusing to participate in, and it cuts the tension and payoff if the rubric keeps sliding around.

If I knew I was going to get another save I wouldn't have been as excited or anxious to use my "only save" during the top ten earlier.
I said that you would only have one save until the final 3, then there would be a showdown between the final 3.
I made that clear I thought.
I guess not. :(

I'm confused by the new rule. Do we have to kill two shows? Or can we only kill one?
It's like a Mexican Standoff.
Kill 2 different shows and save 1.
 
Was your manipulation just for Reboot?

Yes, but it wasn't for Reboot. It was just a prop. It was to prove a point that the voting could be manipulated to an extreme level. And to anger people who liked really popular shows like X-Men, Spongebob, Duck Tales, South Park, Courage, etc.

The goal was always to get Reboot to quietly slip to 3rd by rationally convincing people that voting a certain way was in their interests. No alliances, no hard instructions to kill this and save that. For example, I suggested one poster to change his throwaway save (Batman) to Reboot if he really wanted to kill Spongebob (and double down on kills). The best was convincing people who wanted Reboot dead, and voted to kill it, to change their votes to something else because "Reboot had plenty of kills already" and here are reasons and stats why voting like this will save your show from that second elimination spot. I also checked voting patterns from all previous rounds to see who best to contact for any little way that could help.

Another tactic was diverting saves away from a show I wanted to see killed. e.g. SpongeBob is fine, but I see you mentioned liking Tiny Toons in round X and its racking up kills *shows real but misleading stats* so consider throwing your save at it. Just a lot of little things like this. It worked and got thanked a lot for appearing to be on everyone's side. Sorry for bragging, but it was hilarious and fun. Reboot lasted 4 rounds longer than it should have and almost went on to another undeserved round taking down another big favorite in the process. I feel proud of that, although I would've been happier if that eleventh hour alliance had sacrificed DBZ instead and rallied behind Courage in order to kill Reboot.

I don't know what secret deals went down to keep Hey Arnold around (edit: apparently none), but I do know that the changes in voting rules have really helped keep it alive longer. The Arnold haters would've had enough double kill votes to get rid of it long ago.
 
I don't know what secret deals went down to keep Hey Arnold around (edit: apparently none), but I do know that the changes in voting rules have really helped keep it alive longer. The Arnold haters would've had enough double kill votes to get rid of it long ago.

the top 10 made it very easy to spread out kills. what really helped get rid of dexter was the ppg vs dexter narrative. after dexter died, ppg wasn't as heavily targeted again until yesterday.

without my interference, i think arnold would have gone at the #7 spot with animaniacs at #6. there was a natural anti-animaniacs bloc building ever since batman beyond was on the firing line.
 
Whether you are attempting to Save: Batman or Save: the Simpsons
You must still Kill: Arnold

There is no way any of you are hoping for Arnold to be the #2 (or even the #1) show by accident just because it had less overall kills and didn't need as many saves.

Don't let AniHawk casually manipulate you any further with this save Arnold campaign he's had going on since many many rounds ago. It's worked up to this point, but we all know it's not the #2 and certainly not the #1 show on the list.
 
How can Arthur be voted off in round 13 and Arnold reaches the top 3 makes no sense I mean they basically have the same motive yet Arthur goes about it much better with out the use of cheap stereotypical characters, not going to bother killing anything since none of the shows deserves to win (Batman is dope tough).
 
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