water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Nobody could convince you of anything. Same with me. Weve picked our sides already.
Titanfall requires Origin.
- Thread starter Mechazawa
- Start date
Let's try not to characterize people too broadly; this thread shows a pretty diverse range of opinions.
I consider myself somewhat anti-Origin in that I'll buy my games on Steam whenever possible, but I don't find Origin sufficiently terrible to scare me away from buying a game that requires it. I like to think that I've done a decent job of rationalizing these views for reasons other than me liking Valve and disliking EA.
Oh yeah?
TwiztidElf
Member
No single player. No Aussie servers. Forced Origin. Ugh. I can't find any reasons why I'd want to pay money to put myself through this ordeal.
Syphon Filter
Member
Does it matter if there is no SP? Campaign only games with no online dont have complaints.
SteveWinwood
Member
Huh?
I don't believe that's true.
Well for me at least.
It's funny, I think Ken Ham said the same thing about me as well tonight.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
My conclusions regarding Steam formed a decade ago and have been proven right thus far. i guess in an age of superstring theory and god particles anything is possible and i might change my mind regarding Steam but i doubt it.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Hell one of the reasons I'm interested in this game is no shitty tacked on single player. Who wants resources diverted to something that's clearly on afterthought.
I agree with you about most of this, but your timeline is a off. HL2 had a (not very good) Xbox port a year after the PC launch. The delay on coming to Xbox 360 and PS3 was more a matter of Valve waiting for a good opportunity with the Orange Box rather than trying to keep it exclusive for as long as possible. (Since it had gone non-exclusive already.) Steam also had friend and chat functionality before 2007, assuming you're using 2002 as the start date. 2007 was the year Steam got groups and a pretty big community overhaul, but chat and friends existed before then.
Gamers like to complain about everything and anything.
People have managed to whine a ton about Titanfall's playercount somehow, even though not once was the game promised to be some large-area battlefield-esque game.
They've also managed to whine about there being 3 mechs when the game launches, as if there were supposed to be more options available (which was also never stated previously).
etc etc.
Sometimes I wonder why I even read these threads.
Do you live such a hard life that clicking on an icon on your desktop will prevent you from playing a video game?
Man, I feel bad for you.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
People aren't hacked through EA's service, they're hacked because Ultimate team allows them to convert money on hacked accounts into real money through the service. It's their atm, but the itself isn'tt whats hacked.
Syphon Filter
Member
Theres more to it,principles. Cant trust EA,also why should games be spread around,makes it a hassle. its like having ps4 or xbox one games separated for no reason.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It's like owning a xb1 and a ps4 the horror.
Do you also think their should only be one console, because it's the same principle.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
If clicking an icon on your desktop is too much of a psychological barrier to overcome you could always add a non-Steam game to Steam.
I mean can't I just make a Steam Shortcut of Titanfall?
>Steam
>Add non-steam game to library
>Titanfall.exe
>Put on the tile image of choice
>game opens, less clicks, most likely that Steam Menu shift+tab will work to save screens.
>Origin ctrl+tab to set up streaming.
This is possible right?
EDIT: Beaten.
This shouldn't be an issue.
>Steam
>Add non-steam game to library
>Titanfall.exe
>Put on the tile image of choice
>game opens, less clicks, most likely that Steam Menu shift+tab will work to save screens.
>Origin ctrl+tab to set up streaming.
This is possible right?
EDIT: Beaten.
This shouldn't be an issue.
Syphon Filter
Member
No really,i don't have time for multiple systems honestly even though i can get them. EA took someones games away over saying something,not going to mess with them.
old manatee
Banned
Guess i'll pick it up in the next ea humble bundle.
Ahh, kk. I must have not thought much of friends prior to the overhaul then, as I remember thinking "non functional" and must have conflated it with "non-existent". My bad.
HL2 got an Xbox port? Owww that must have been bad.
Origin is 1 of the 3 clients that i use (steam, origin, battle.net) so its no big deal to me.
i was gonna wait until it hits about 50% off ($30) anyway tho, because i'll be playing Dark Souls 2 and Diablo3: Reaper of Souls (both PC) for quite a while anyway next month.
and what likely amounts to a small amount of lost sales due to being Origin exclusive will be made up in EA gaining the full profits ...rather than having to give Valve a 30% cut.
Origin always worked well for me, btw ...i don't like it as much as i do Steam ...but its a decent enough platform.
i was gonna wait until it hits about 50% off ($30) anyway tho, because i'll be playing Dark Souls 2 and Diablo3: Reaper of Souls (both PC) for quite a while anyway next month.
and what likely amounts to a small amount of lost sales due to being Origin exclusive will be made up in EA gaining the full profits ...rather than having to give Valve a 30% cut.
Origin always worked well for me, btw ...i don't like it as much as i do Steam ...but its a decent enough platform.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It's also a bitch to get games to run administrator, and just mess around in general. It's closed as fuk in that regard even in comparison to Origin which I have no issues with.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
i might be wrong but didnt Steam change banned users access to games after EA did that for Origin first?
You honestly don't have 15 seconds to spare when you're on the computer?
Then what are you doing on gaf?
KnightHart
Member
I've never really had a problem with the Origin client itself (especially when it allowed custom install paths before Steam did from what I remember). Most of the Origin complaints I've heard of seem to be more related to EA/Origin's servers. Like how some people had problems playing stuff like FIFA or Dead Space 3 online/co-op.
I wonder if Titanfall is gonna use a system similar to Battlelog. Battlefield 4 is definitely a lot of things (a lot of them not very good), but Battlelog is at least one of the better things to come out of it and improved as well.
I wonder if Titanfall is gonna use a system similar to Battlelog. Battlefield 4 is definitely a lot of things (a lot of them not very good), but Battlelog is at least one of the better things to come out of it and improved as well.
Competition is only competition when there's some actual competing going on. EA's given Valve no reason to compete since Origin was renamed and yet Steam has done nothing but add features in this 2+ year span while EA sits on their hands and twirl in their computer chairs.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but everything I heard says that Microsoft takes the same 30% cut from any digital sale on the Xbox Live Marketplace that Valve does. From what I understand Sony is about the same. I've even heard Apple take a 30% cut for it's digital sales. It seems like a 30% cut of digital sales is pretty much the industry standard.
Not only that, but Valve gives away free keys for retail sales of games and sales of keys outside of Steam on sites like Amazon. That seems pretty fair to me, from what I understand Microsoft takes a license fee of around $8-10 for each retail game sold. Of course the retail PC market is pretty small but I imagine the market for selling keys on sites like Amazon is larger.
EA Partners is not EA.
They just distribute the game.
Respawn is totally independent an EA has no say in how they create Titanfall.
I'm shocked that people don't understand this.
Well not really, since people just love complaining about everything relating to EA
Yup
I don't remember anyone getting banned from the Steam Forums getting their account banned as well.
LordBaztion
Member
Good for EA to secure their exclusives.
Gully State
Member
EA may not have a say in creating titanfall but that certainly hasn't stopped them from shitting in the cake batter (no PS4, Origin only)
Origin is merely functional. It doesn't offer a lot of core features that Steam does. Many see it as an inconvenience due to their already-large Steam libraries.
It also seems that a lot of people consider it dishonorable or whatever to make exclusive games and don't consider exclusive games to be compelling features for a game distribution service.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
This is pretty much your opinion, do you know for a fact that Origin hasn't influenced Valve at all.
Also there's nothing inherently wrong with a business competing even if it's shit competition it's annoying to consumers when the product is a piece of crap and forced onto users, but aside from it being a me too I haven't seen much offensively wrong with it.
Business cash in all the time, it's part of many a business portfolio, hell it's what the majority of business are. I just see no fundamental issue with this concept. Valve only exists because Gabe cashed in after seeing Doom's success it's a fact of business.
For Origin games this will likely launch Origin rather than launching the game in question.
TekGryphon
Banned
I'll buy it when it goes on Steam and not a minute before. Origin is a frustrating piece of junk every single time I've tried to use it.
Do you live such an easy life that any amount of hassle is worth it to play the "NEXT BIG GAME" from EA or whoever else? If not, what is your limit?
Maybe it's a principle that few people share, but if it takes 5 minutes for me to load up/set up Origin (assuming all my Steam friends were magically there already), that's fucking 5 minutes of my time that I wasted just so EA could suck a little more money out of the PC ecosystem. Money, that unlike with Valve and Steam, is exceptionally unlikely to enhance PC gaming in the slightest.
If Titanfall were somehow the only game coming out that looked any good, I'd probably roll over and buy it too, but there is anything but a lack of good games to play on PC right now, so I get to be choosy. An Origin requirement is an easy way for me to see that the dev/publisher don't care enough to put the game where I want to buy it. That's their choice, and it's my choice not to chase after them desperate to buy their game. Simple as that.
I don't consider it a mortal sin, but I don't think EA is doing a particularly good job of selling Origin as a competitor to Steam.
A lot of people say this.
But every time I use Origin, I click the icon, it starts, then I click the game and play it.
Never once failed me.
Yep. I will never understand why people will continue to support EA after all the bullshit they have pulled over the years.
The Cowboy
Member
When you launch a game like this (Origin required), it will launch Origin in taskbar mode and then auto launch the game - at most (if set correctly) you'll see a quick "logging in" message (while it logs into Origin) and that's it.
With the most recent update, you can also make it auto shutdown Origin when you close the game to.