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Fantastic Four Reboot Will Aim For Tone of Sam Raimis Spider-Man
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Ultimate Reed Richards
This makes no sense. Making the FF grounded is completely the opposite idea of the FF. The FF is high adventure through time and space not batman. Just give us this:
sans spiderman
Yes please
We should be so lucky that they adapt that run
DonasaurusRex
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dunno why people think batman TDK is grounded, he'd be laid up in a hospital too gettin addicted to pain pills.
DonasaurusRex
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apparently you missed the whole problem where reed richards alt universe versions realize they can pwn everyone and proceed to collect infinity gauntlets and kill galactus and all the dooms in all realities. Reed is total bullshit level OP and it all from his mastery of the laws of nature and ingenuity. he doesnt even need his powers.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
everytime I hear something new about this "film" I roll my eyes just a bit harder. It's going to be a HOT MESS and I'm already over it even though it hasn't even starting filming yet!
yo this is legit
Reed also teamed up with all the Reeds from all the alternate universes to try and solve everything. They beat all the Dooms, fixed stars, fed entire universes and shit like that.
Yeah, Reed is pretty OP when he's not being character-assassinated by Mark Millar or Brian Bendis
Thing is can you drop a film like that on the general viewing audience? Even ones used to comic films of different types. You kinda have to work up to some of the fantastical elements in the Fantastic Four I think. Space and the silver surfer is one thing. When you start messing around with the negative zone, multiple realities, etc you have to be careful. That can turn out really bad or extremely confusing if not done properly. That's not even the case of Marvel being the one to door it right and Fox doing it wrong I think. I think it's a issue where any company might have problems doing it right due to the very nature of the content. Thor was done but FF requires a more detail, tech speak, etc all balanced around four main characters.
Glass Rebel
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Only needs to have Ultimate Doctor Doom now.
I wonder how much Bell can bulk up for his role as Grimm though.
lol
I wonder how much Bell can bulk up for his role as Grimm though.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Reed gets away with a lot of bull though.
Because it is grounded for the genre.
Calamari41
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That's the big shame in all of this, to be honest. Fantastic Four would be perfect to drop in during the leadup to Thanos and beyond in the MCU, but of course it won't happen. By the time we're past Avengers 2, Cosmic Marvel will be out there and starting to get acceptance. Throwing F4 in during a cosmic expansion would give audiences some characters that they know to keep it more grounded than having the previously unknown Nova Corps and Rocket Raccoon as the ambassadors. You are right that the topics you listed are extremely esoteric and downright weird, but using these four is really the only way to ease people into it. Without them, Marvel shouldn't even bother.
MisterHero
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They should make "Tobey Maguire tries to join the Fantastic Four but kicks their butts instead and quits because it's not a paying job"
Fuck that noise, raccoon all in the audiences faces, they can take that Marvel can do what ever they want.
Calamari41
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No dude, I'm totally behind that. I'm just saying that having the Fantastic Four as cosmic "guides" as it were would be safer for the studio ROI-wise.
I'm all-in for the Guardians and Nova Corps and beyond without the Fantastic Four. The huge shame in my eyes is that we can't have Dick Rider ripping out Annihilus' digestive tract, or have the Avengers get wrecked by Doom. That's what I regret.
Pixar already has breh, and it's probably the best one we'll ever get.
nah breh
Byakuya769
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Going for the tone of the Raimi films? Lol... Good luck with that in the year 2015.
Coriolanus
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That last panel, with Reed twisting his neck 180º, is the best depiction of his power I've ever seen.
TheGreatDirector
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Only Doctor Doom has cured Ben, one of the few things Reed hasn't equally matcheed him in doing.
Also, how was Ultimate Doctor Doom? I never read the Ultimate comics at all so I don't really know much about his character.
Host Samurai
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Is this a bad thing? The Raimi Spiderman movies really had that classic comic book tone to it. When I think of a realistic and hollywood I think of that crap ASM and those god awful Xmen movies.
Plasticine
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This will be different, though. Now they'll have poor casting across the board and terrible writing for everyone.
Mengy
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Yep, I agree. The cast of the old F4 movies wasn't bad, but the script was a clusterfuck. I cry when I think of what they did to Dr. Doom. Such an awesome character in the comics, such a horrid waste in the movie. God I wish Marvel could get the rights back to F4 so much.
oddly enough that was what they were talking about. Except Ben's biggest problem at the moment wa the mindless clones he was spawning.
Phoenician_Viking
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He has telepathic powers?
Don't trip Slay, you know it's true.
And if Brad Bird is coming back as director/writer/storyboard artist with the same amount of liberties he had on the first Incredibles- it's a wrap.
Valeria cured him too, she's damn smart for a 3 year old.
Ultimate Doom is a little bitch compared to 616 Doom, who was a literal god at one point.
No. He doesn't need them, he has the best power of all: Super Science!
He has a machine for that.
They got the family feel right. But not Reed's and Ben's relationship nor the others. FF is about the relationships as much as it is about big science.
Typical NeoGAF overreaction. Josh Tank is a very capable director and if the film is anywhere as good as Chronicle then it will probably turn out to be one of the best superhero films. The Ultimate fantasic four origin story was pretty grounded in the context and if they are basing the film from that then it should turn out okay.
tiggerkiddo
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Eh, we'll see if that actually works but I'm rather tired of the superhero movies rooted in realism, embrace the fantasy.
Chronicle was a shakey cam found footage mess of a movie, I wouldn't exactly call him a capable director based soley off that.
krypt0nian
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It looked like a slightly higher budget YouTube fan film. This franchise needs an enema.
Or an Ultimate Nullifer.
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The most interesting thing about the fantastic four seems to be Dr Doom... they should make a movie about this guy!
unholyrevenger72
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The tone of the Raimi Movies at least 1 and 3 are sad, while Two is the only one with a Happy tone.
Wrong. But a Doom movie based on the Books of Doom would be outstanding.
Scooter155
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Sounds alright to me. It's still going to have a stretchy guy, an invisible force-field girl, a guy who can catch himself on fire and fly for some reason, and a giant orange rock monster. I don't think he means it's going to be "realistic" in the sense some people are assuming. He specifically calls out Dark Knight as what they're not doing. the first two Raimi spiderman films were GREAT and what was realistic about them was the character interactions, mostly Peter's immense joy at discovering his powers and his decision to help people less powerful than himself as a result of Ben's death.
Chronicle was like that too. The characters behaved realistically for their age, life situation and the extraordinary circumstances they found themselves in - but you wouldn't call a movie about dudes who can fly and call down lightning "realistic".
I'm optimistic. It's the casting that bothers me more than this news.
Of all the comic book properties of course Fox decides that the Fantastic Four are the ones that needed grounding in reality.
Reed Richards is ridiculous. Dude has better prep than Batman. Can tank hits from the likes of Namor/Thing. Can dodge weapon fire/energy blasts almost as well as Apocalypse. He once tricked the Black Celestial into killing itself (after it had driven Galactus insane), he's since created weapons that can outright kill the average Celestial. The entire Skrull race considers him the most dangerous thing on Earth. And most impressively hes likely the only mortal Galactus has sought for advice on multiple occasions.
The only reason Reed hasn't completely subjugated the Earth is because he has a family keeping his humanity in check, and even then he's come perilously close to going off the deep end much like his counterparts. Seriously, 616 Reed is one bad day away from being no better than his friggen Nazi alternate universe version. Do not fuck with Reed Richards.
Reed Richards is ridiculous. Dude has better prep than Batman. Can tank hits from the likes of Namor/Thing. Can dodge weapon fire/energy blasts almost as well as Apocalypse. He once tricked the Black Celestial into killing itself (after it had driven Galactus insane), he's since created weapons that can outright kill the average Celestial. The entire Skrull race considers him the most dangerous thing on Earth. And most impressively hes likely the only mortal Galactus has sought for advice on multiple occasions.
The only reason Reed hasn't completely subjugated the Earth is because he has a family keeping his humanity in check, and even then he's come perilously close to going off the deep end much like his counterparts. Seriously, 616 Reed is one bad day away from being no better than his friggen Nazi alternate universe version. Do not fuck with Reed Richards.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
No. The amazing Double Jointed Man.
he do more than stretch
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Really though, Reed stretching is not his super power. It's his infinite ability to be a dick that's his true strong point.
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/artattack/2012/04/reed_richards_insufferable_dic.php
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/artattack/2012/04/reed_richards_insufferable_dic.php
That's not going to happen anytime soon.
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