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The Walking Dead Season 5, Part 1 Sundays on AMC
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Heh, go figure. I must have looked away somehow. All I saw were the cops pleading after the two got killed. I didn't notice him at all.
Oh, and Maggie's breakdown had like, zero impact. One of the people I was watching the show with actually said at that moment "Is she her sister right?"
Last Uchiha
Banned
Season 6 will be the last season?
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Nah, ratings are still through the roof. The entire premise of the show is "What happens in the zombie movies after the credits roll" If actors get sick of being on the show, they'll get killed off and replaced.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Beth's gonna Beth.
Lord_Byron28
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I never commented on it but most of this arc felt like a waste. We are literally exactly where we left off with before everyone split off except we gained Noah. It reminds me almost exactly of last season when they aired all those slow Governor episodes(after the nice flu outbreak arc) to kill him off and all we get is that one chick. Granted the Governor's arc paid off in the end even if I found his background episodes boring. This on the other hand was a bit dull (I liked the Daryl and Carol episode and the Abraham group episode). I actually liked Beth as a character but it never went anywhere and there was no pay off. We were teased for nearly a year about Beth and her reuniting with the group just to kill her off before she got there. I wouldn't have cared if she died the next episode, I just would've appreciated some pay off with Beth returning amongst the group. I also liked her and Noah's dynamic. Why couldn't they kill off the reverend instead?
Comic spoilers:
Alexandria... well, sort of. A little bit.
The problem is that Andrew Lincoln and Chandler Riggs aren't good actors and I don't see how the show is about them, Carl doesn't do much and his character is barely developed.
In the beginning the show was definitely about Rick but things have changed, Shane and Lori are gone and since the back half of season 4 they started to do episodes without Rick, he now seems to be part of an ensemble much more than at the beginning where he was clearly the protagonist.
And looking at the remaining season 1 characters Carol and Darryl are the ones who had the most and best development, it also helps that they're played by stronger actors.
They both good actors, Carl has come a long way since season 2.
Lincoln is definitely not a good actor. He's improved but he's easily one of the weakest
Spiritreaver
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Lol all these people being spoiled. I just watched the episode and somehow I missed the gigantic spoil boat. Weird.
Anyway meh. I'm annoyed Beth died. I was never in the camp of people that hated her, and I always knew they'd work on her character, she just needed the time. At least she got the time I guess?
Anyway meh. I'm annoyed Beth died. I was never in the camp of people that hated her, and I always knew they'd work on her character, she just needed the time. At least she got the time I guess?
You have a weird definition of good, Andrew Lincoln is awful! I'm willing to give Chandler Riggs a break, very few kids are good actors (although they do exist, see Game of Thrones) and the show gives him nothing to work with, but that it isn't his fault doesn't make gim good. He's just less offensive than Andrew Lincoln who's an experienced actor but still bad.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
13X issues....anyone who reads the comic is caught up by now.
Even if you only started when the show started you'd be up to speed.
The episodes come out weekly....the comic monthly, comic readers suffer much much more than when a bad issue comes out.
A weak issue is like a slap in the face after a month of waiting for your favorite dish, two weak issues back to back?.....dont even go there.
P.S Not defending the show, im back to watching it specifically because im caught up with the comic, and want to see where the writers take the show.
Chuckie
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Not the people who are waiting for Compendium 3...
...............................Like me
Not the people who are waiting for Compendium 3...
.................Like me
That's a long wait! I just started buying the volumes after I was finished with Compendium 2, can't wait that long.
I think you're confusing acting with personal taste. He's a fine actor, maybe you just find the person annoying (like my GF does). Chandler Riggs has become very serviceable, which is high praise for a child actor.
TommyTosser
Member
Absolutely made up that
I'm so fed up of scenes with characters just asking if they're alright and if they need help. It's literally the majority of the show.
i wish they would stop being whiney bitches and get on with it. eg Glen is such a pussy
Crying little bitch Beth is dead
I'm so fed up of scenes with characters just asking if they're alright and if they need help. It's literally the majority of the show.
Like when tyreese was speaking to Sasha while she's got the sniper on Rick. Jesus wept. I actually shouted at the TV "For fuck sake just get on with it."
i wish they would stop being whiney bitches and get on with it. eg Glen is such a pussy
The thing is the want us to feel like she knows she has to die in order for the people in the hospital to be free, and then all she does is stick the scissor some two inches in doing minimum damage triggering a reflex move by the cop getting them both killed. It's so contradictory.
I think Andrew Lincoln is doing an ok job with Rick. I mean he is playing a character who has had to kill his best friend, his wife died giving birth, thought he lost is baby and people keep dying on him. He is a broken man and his kids are the only thing keeping him sane. Now and then you can see flashes of him loseing his shit but he always manages to hold it together.
Hahah, so fitting that she got casted as someone that gets killed off.
Everything about the power structure of that hospital was a complete mess.
yeah i totally thought tyreese was going too
Escape Goat
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The whole point of the Hospital group was that they were so concerned with maintaining the status quo. They were afraid to actually live outside of the world Dawn perpetuated. Everyone rather tried to keep what they had and didn't rock the boat. Beth had the courage to actually give them the push they needed to break the stalemate.
Thats what I got from all of that. And Beth getting Dawn shot may not change that group for the better or at all. But I guess Beth ("I'm not a killer") thought that her life was a price she needed to pay to show them differently.
Boogalogist
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Welp...Beth's death felt senseless to me. I didn't even see Dawn's gun drawn when the Beth stabbed her. Dawn must be one helluva quick draw.
Seeing how dark Rick has turned this season, I was hoping he would just massacre all the cops after Dawn shot Beth.
Seeing how dark Rick has turned this season, I was hoping he would just massacre all the cops after Dawn shot Beth.
I consider him one of the better actors on the show, so I don't see how you can even watch if he is "awful".
This show has problems here and there, Lincoln is not one of them.
flyinpiranha
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I just figured she knew their would be somebody to 'back her up' if she 'started it'. I was expecting a jab to the neck with blood squirting out, more Walking Dead-ish but that was a surprise.
A stupid surprise though. I actually was starting to enjoy her character.
And calling Rick/Lincoln "awful" is just hyperbole. I think he's great. He may not have the delivery of some more seasoned actors but when he flies off the handle you can really see him fly off the handle. I think he's the best part of the show. And besides the cryptic communication and silence, most of the characters are believable.
I wish you hadn't said that, in some form, that's a spoiler in itself.
Escape Goat
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I think Beth knew that Darryl and/or Rick would avenge her. Which is just another example of people using other people for their own ends, even if its a result of familial concern and not outright exploitation.
Beth, however noble she thought she was, was counting on making somebody kill Dawn for her. She knew those scissors weren't going to do shit. If Beth had an indepth knowledge of human anatomy she might have been able to kill Dawn herself, but she didn't need to with Rick and Darryl behind her. She just needed to light the fuse.
SolidChamp
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Just to echo a lot of the sentiments already put forth in this thread; the way Beth died was completely fucking stupid.
Start with the paper-thin motivations for doing what she did. Why did she even tuck those scissors into her cast in the first place? Don't tell me she knew she'd have a chance at killing Dawn (with the smallest stabby weapon imagineable), let alone a good reason.
For the keen-eyed folk among us...did everyone else notice how Dawn DID NOT HAVE HER GUN DRAWN WHEN BETH STEPPED UP TO HER?
Watch the scene again. Dawn clearly has her gun holstered. At no point in time do we see or hear her remove her gun. Then again, why would she draw on BETH, of all people? Dawn had never, at any point in time, perceived Beth to be a threat...and certainly not in that moment. That gun is holstered...so I'm supposed to believe that in the few seconds that Beth steps in close to say "I get it" and then stab her, Dawn suddenly channels the ghost of Billy the Kid and BLAM?
WTF?
This has to be the most inconsistent show I've ever been invested in. They need to axe half of that writing staff, I swear. So fucking stupid.
And don't even get me started on the travesty that is the Maggie arc leading up to Beth's death. Her scene at the end was cringeworthy, as a result of how badly they botched that shit.
Fuck you, writers. Fuck you! Give me your fucking job, asswipe hacks!
Start with the paper-thin motivations for doing what she did. Why did she even tuck those scissors into her cast in the first place? Don't tell me she knew she'd have a chance at killing Dawn (with the smallest stabby weapon imagineable), let alone a good reason.
For the keen-eyed folk among us...did everyone else notice how Dawn DID NOT HAVE HER GUN DRAWN WHEN BETH STEPPED UP TO HER?
Watch the scene again. Dawn clearly has her gun holstered. At no point in time do we see or hear her remove her gun. Then again, why would she draw on BETH, of all people? Dawn had never, at any point in time, perceived Beth to be a threat...and certainly not in that moment. That gun is holstered...so I'm supposed to believe that in the few seconds that Beth steps in close to say "I get it" and then stab her, Dawn suddenly channels the ghost of Billy the Kid and BLAM?
WTF?
This has to be the most inconsistent show I've ever been invested in. They need to axe half of that writing staff, I swear. So fucking stupid.
And don't even get me started on the travesty that is the Maggie arc leading up to Beth's death. Her scene at the end was cringeworthy, as a result of how badly they botched that shit.
Fuck you, writers. Fuck you! Give me your fucking job, asswipe hacks!
Beth took a chance on going after dawn - who knew what the situation would've turned into otherwise.
I think it was for her character a sign of strength to put herself on the line at that moment for her friends.
Escape Goat
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Definitely. But I think we're expected to not think about that.
Boom Boom Pow
Banned
what is this cycle that people keep repeating?
VaultBoy101
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This is who should die at this point:
That would be the best-ever episode for this show, but I'd change one thing: Carol doesn't die and is in fact the one who kills all the others for being so goddamn boring.
the_firewithin
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Escape Goat
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If they do they'll show it in the mid season premiere. There probably wasn't any time to show that without totally deflecting the mood of Beth's sacrifice.
The hospital was a place where a tiny few enjoyed privilege. The doctor had beth unwittingly kill a patient because it would have loosened his grip on power since he was, at that time, the only doctor. Dawn played people to make sure she stayed in charge but also that nothing changed. People like Noah and Beth were abducted to serve these people and give them some sense of importance and authority. Beth wanted to help people because it was the right thing to do. The hospital wanted to help people that could help them. So medicine was doled out sparingly and only for those that stood to bring something to the group.
If Noah had gone back to Dawn he would have been subject to all their tender mercies. Remember the old guy that got beat down by the cop with no consequence? That was what Beth and Noah had to look forward to living there. Rick said they weren't living and that was true. They were surviving by whatever means they could even if those means were less than honorable. And thats a theme thats been in every season of TWD.
Killing Dawn removed the last figure powerful enough to really dominate the hospital group. It kind of is a free for all now. The new chick seems to be more reasonable though. But nobody had the courage to stand up to Dawn. Everyone was trying to hold on to what they've got. Don't rock the boat. That was the whole theme of the hospital group. Beth freed them from their fear of standing up to Dawn.
Baconsaurus Rex
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well that was just stupid.
-Pyromaniac-
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I'm shocked that so many people have trouble getting this.
And before someone for the umpteenth time reminds us how stupid a decision it was and how smart they are and how they'd dominate the zombie apocalypse, remember that characters are flawed and in this case it was a spur of the moment decision. And it did work.
Escape Goat
Member
I've already explained it 2 or 3 times so....tag, you're it.
This is who should die at this point:
I'd rather lose Maggie than Beth, judging by how useless and boring she got in the last two seasons (I'm talking about Maggie here).
But we all know some characters are just invincible and won't die unless they want out of the show (Rick, Carl, Darryl, Glenn).
I want Michonne to survive too, but I get the feeling she's not gonna be around for much longer. Safe for this season, but she might be gone in the next one.
Escape Goat
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I don't think shes getting much work beyond TWD. They have to pay the bills somehow so until they start getting noticed and cast in other stuff I suspect they'll be here for the long haul or until the writers think its time to cull the herd.
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