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‘The Walking Dead’ – Season 5, Part 1 – Sundays on AMC

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I'm a tad annoyed that every single one of these communities they come across are dysfunctional in one way or another.
I was thinking the same thing. I think it's a little lazy, to have the rest of the world, outside of Ricks group, comprised entirely of psychos and tyrants.
 

RangerX

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This was like a bad episode of the outer limits. The dialogue was awful, scenes were confusing and it focused entirely on Beth. Her actress is incredibly bad, she always looks like shes reading from an autocue. The last three episodes were excellent so hopefully Daryl and Carol break the place up and get her out of there. For all those posters saying people just want action, I've watched all of the returned and rectified, two of the slowest shows there is. When you don't have a lot of action you need engaging dialogue, plot and characters, this episode had none of these. Also lol at Rotters.
 

PopeReal

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It wasn't great at all. It was awful. And I question the judgment of anyone who dares to justify that as a good episode. It had some of the worst wooden acting I have ever seen in a television show. And that's saying quite a lot for the Walking Dead, the king of bad acting. I've seen better acting on reality television. It's like they asked a bunch of their stage hands if they wanted to act and then gave them the job to avoid hiring some actual actors.

The dialogue as I've mentioned before was dreadful. Beth asks the new amputee what the guard had done to her and instead of simply answering the question she responds with some drivel about Satan or something. Just the typical bunch of fucking nonsense and filler crap that's a staple of this show. It's like none one can answer each other on the show straight. Everything has to be in riddles or as vague as possible.

And, what was the point of the Dr bringing Beth down to the zombies in the lower levels? Like telling her they can't leave because there are zombies all over the place wasn't enough? Hey it's that same 'ol zombies-behind-a-blockade-to-show-they're-a-threat scene which we've seen like over a 100 times by now. Yeah, those zombies which many characters can now seemingly dispatch of in droves with a butter knife are totally impossible for a small army of officers with guns to take care off. Yeah, this situation is a total conundrum. And, how pointless was it that he had to get Beth to kill for him when he could have simply done it himself. It's not as if any of those officers had equal medical training so he could have made it look like it wasn't a murder.

Nothing in his episode made any damn sense. And the idea that these guys would just knock her out and kidnap her out of nowhere is equally as confusing. Why were they driving around in the middle of the woods at night? What's the point of rescuing people if you're going to act like assholes and allow people to deplete your resources? At least Terminus made sense since they wanted food.

I love long frustrated rants that boil down to the inability to accept different opinions.

Question the judgement? Really? Over a tv show? Really?

Personally I really loved the escape through the basement floor. Very well done. And the actors used are on par with everyone else on the show. This is not a show known for its writing or acting, it is just a fun thing every Sunday night.
 

Dai101

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I quite liked this episode. Was nice to see something different again. I look these views at mini society's and the weird people that inhabit them. Now Carol will fuck shit up and that's that.

Yep. Same here. I mean, is nice to see some other parts that isn't a ransacked one horse town. That some of the humanity try to grasp some last straws at what the society was but didn't quite realize they have reach deep bottom (the whole sex slave/forced servitude)
 

Kintaco

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This was like a bad episode of the outer limits. The dialogue was awful, scenes were confusing and it focused entirely on Beth. Her actress is incredibly bad, she always looks like shes reading from an autocue.
I think this is a perfect description of the episode. I didn't hate it, but it didn't feel like I was watching The Walking Dead.
 

Kuroyume

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I love long frustrated rants that boil down to the inability to accept different opinions.

Question the judgement? Really? Over a tv show? Really?

Personally I really loved the escape through the basement floor. Very well done. And the actors used are on par with everyone else on the show. This is not a show known for its writing or acting, it is just a fun thing every Sunday night.

The tone of the post isn't what you (or Linius) think it is. And we can debate aspects of shows and film at this forum. If you don't want to engage in that then I'm not sure why you're responding to the post.
 

Travo

Member
Yeah, looks as though TWD suffers from the same problems as Lost. No one asks the right questions and no one gives logical answers.
 

PopeReal

Member
The tone of the post isn't what you (or Linius) think it is. And we can debate aspects of shows and film at this forum. If you don't want to engage in that then I'm not sure why you're responding to the post.

Debate is good. Most people agree with you and hated the episode. Just the way your post came off didn't really leave room for debate.

I mean read your post again. You questioned the judgement of anyone who dared justify.....

How is that asking for debate?
 

jond76

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I liked it. I wish people would answer questions more directly but I chalk it up to these people living in an entirely different world than we do.

I will say its pretty arrogant of this group to assume they know anything about the people they single out to save. Beth really knocked them back on their heels, Carol is gonna knock em out.
 

NolbertoS

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This was like a bad episode of the outer limits.

I loved every episode of the new Outer Limits and even own the series DVD. Outer Limits was cool show, bud with the early CGI in effect. i'm sure with CGI nowadays, Outer Limits would be just as cool as Walking Dead.

Sorry to derail thread.
 

Linius

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The tone of the post isn't what you (or Linius) think it is. And we can debate aspects of shows and film at this forum. If you don't want to engage in that then I'm not sure why you're responding to the post.

I hoped you got caught up in the moment and quickly wrote something to get it out there. But apparently you're just really full of yourself and your opinion. If there's one thing I learned on the Internet it's not to get in a debate with those kind of people.
 

Alpende

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Didn't really like the episode, the previous ones were great. Maybe it has to do with the fact that I think Beth is one of the weakest characters, so why center an entire episode around her? I agree with other people saying that every group the encountered is kind of fucked up, kind of weak. Smallish comic spoilers
let's hope Alexandria freshens things up.

No more Beth centered episodes pls, that one from the last season was shit.
 
This is one thing I definitely don't like, especially if we're gonna have entire episodes dedicated to each group.
They gotta figure out some way to have episodes jump back and forth between two of the groups or something. Having each episode end in a cliffhanger and not getting that resolution for potentially 2 or 3 weeks is not intriguing, it is frustrating.

And I am pretty tired with characters on this show just letting the bad guy (or girl) monologue for a bit while they just sit there.
 

Renzoku

Banned
Holy shit at the Doctor's room with the light illuminating the painting. I was just waiting for when the philosophical bullshit would start because they were obviously fucking READY to discuss that thing. Some of the dumbest cinematography of all fucking time.

That episode was easily one of the worst of the entire show.

What the hell is with this character development and world building, fuck that shit! amidoingitrite?

What development? Blank stares, non-answers, vapid bullshit is character development to you? You're such a deep thinker with a true appreciation for the undertones of the show unlike us plebs who just want lolaction amidoingitrite?

What world building? Here's a bunch of people in a hospital in ATLANTA, AGAIN. There is no creed the group follows aside from a basic "give-and-take" mentality. The rest of their organization is incomprehensible because of how fucking abjectly bad the writing is in this episode.


People keep making this mistake that every point of view is valid and worthy of discussion; episodes like this one prove that this isn't the case. The episode was shit.
 
Maybe I didn't hate it as much as some of you because I watched the preview. I was expecting a whole episode about Beth and I ended up enjoying it more than I thought I would. I liked seeing another group dynamic. Like someone else said earlier it was more believable than Terminus.
 
That episode was easily one of the worst of the entire show.

Pick a random episode from Hershel's farm and it was most likely worse than this ep by a long shot.


What development? Blank stares, non-answers, vapid bullshit is character development to you? You're such a deep thinker with a true appreciation for the undertones of the show unlike us plebs who just want lolaction amidoingitrite?

What world building? Here's a bunch of people in a hospital in ATLANTA, AGAIN. There is no creed the group follows aside from a basic "give-and-take" mentality. The rest of their organization is incomprehensible because of how fucking abjectly bad the writing is in this episode.

People keep making this mistake that every point of view is valid and worthy of discussion; episodes like this one prove that this isn't the case. The episode was shit.

Beth's character definitely went through more development in this episode. Her time with Daryl sharpened the tools but the situation she found herself in put her in the position to make her own moves. The entire reason they even came close to escaping was because of her actions. As for world building, it showed yet another different survival philosophy, one that was important to note because every other group we've seen had long given up on the idea of being rescued, yet here was this group living in the middle of one of the most hopeless scenes one could be in and they were still operating under the belief that they'd be rescued eventually. It's pretty easy to see that the power structure in the group hinged on that philosphy, otherwise Dawn and everyone else enforcing the rules would've been overthrown long before.

The episode wasn't the strongest of the series or even the season but it's far from the worst and definitely better than pretty much every episode on the farm and half the prison episodes as well.
 
It wasn't great at all. It was awful. And I question the judgment of anyone who dares to justify that as a good episode. It had some of the worst wooden acting I have ever seen in a television show. And that's saying quite a lot for the Walking Dead, the king of bad acting. I've seen better acting on reality television. It's like they asked a bunch of their stage hands if they wanted to act and then gave them the job to avoid hiring some actual actors.

The dialogue as I've mentioned before was dreadful. Beth asks the new amputee what the guard had done to her and instead of simply answering the question she responds with some drivel about Satan or something. Just the typical bunch of fucking nonsense and filler crap that's a staple of this show. It's like none one can answer each other on the show straight. Everything has to be in riddles or as vague as possible.

And, what was the point of the Dr bringing Beth down to the zombies in the lower levels? Like telling her they can't leave because there are zombies all over the place wasn't enough? Hey it's that same 'ol zombies-behind-a-blockade-to-show-they're-a-threat scene which we've seen like over a 100 times by now. Yeah, those zombies which many characters can now seemingly dispatch of in droves with a butter knife are totally impossible for a small army of officers with guns to take care off. Yeah, this situation is a total conundrum. And, how pointless was it that he had to get Beth to kill for him when he could have simply done it himself. It's not as if any of those officers had equal medical training so he could have made it look like it wasn't a murder.

Nothing in his episode made any damn sense. And the idea that these guys would just knock her out and kidnap her out of nowhere is equally as confusing. Why were they driving around in the middle of the woods at night? What's the point of rescuing people if you're going to act like assholes and allow people to deplete your resources? At least Terminus made sense since they wanted food.
even avclub who has always been one of the harshest critics of the show gave it a B.

It wasn't that bad. You're just being way overcritical.
 

Sadist

Member
Defintely not my favourite episode.

However... it was watchable. Beth as a character is a blank slate (she has to work with what she gets, but man her performance is mostly meager as well) so I wasn't to happy with a Bethisode. She's so blah. Except for her "Nobody's coming Dawn" speech it was pretty meh. I think the only character worth a damn was Noah and he got out. The doctor, Dawn and officer Bad Thirst are one dimensional characters, so watching those scenes were boring.

Still, overall, because of it's weird atmospehere I was somewhat interested.

Strange, strange episode.
 

cacildo

Member
The worst part is.....

....next episode will probably be full hospital, nothing happens, nobody undestand how conversation works, until something happens in the last 2 minutes
 

Odah

Banned
I actually hope that the doc joins the group because I kind of liked him alot even tho when he had a little Walter White side on him. He'll probably die >>
 

Volimar

Member
The worst part is.....

....next episode will probably be full hospital, nothing happens, nobody undestand how conversation works, until something happens in the last 2 minutes

I have a feeling that the next episode is going to have people missing the hospital.

I actually hope that the doc joins the group because I kind of liked him alot even tho when he had a little Walter White side on him. He'll probably die >>

He'll be too afraid to leave the hospital.
 

Effnine

Member
Not gonna lie, I fell asleep a few times during the episode ... overall it was OK ... I felt it got better toward the end, but it was just kind of confusing and disjointed for much of the episode ... I don't know, I still like the series and all, just wasn't thrilled with last night's offering ...
 
Not saying the episode was great or anything, but if you couldn't figure out what was going on, or figure out that the idea of the episode was to not inform the viewer about anything more than what Beth knew, then I don't know what else to tell you other than pay more attention to things you're watching.

The way it was structured, you basically only saw things that Beth saw, you formed your view of the characters the same time she did. That's the intent at least. Honestly I thought they went in too fast with making them obviously creepy ("and now you owe us" being one of the first things said to her).
 

jelly

Member
I'll echo the just answer the bloody question moments, worst it's been in a while.

I was relieved at times when I thought this would one and done like the last episodes, Carol needed to just rescue her at the end there, all is good then the cops can run into the group later on or something.

Still the mystery of the Jesus car Beth was taking away in or was it in the parking lot?
 
Was decent. I will never understand the need for NOT asking questions. One of the ongoing jokes with my fiance about anything is just the "this is my life now" attitude with TV shows.

I do agree Beth is a pretty weak character, one I wouldn't care if she made it or not. But they might be building her up.

Was a definite tempo change from the fantastic first few episodes though, probably why I am not all that happy about it.

@jelly : yes, all the cars had crosses, my guess is that they seek out weak people to be their subordinates, but not really a guess because thats basically what the dude who escaped mentioned.
 
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