Walter White
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Can't just be a main character, it has to be someone that hits close to home. I'm calling Carl. It'll be something that gets him to truly understand Rick's worldview these days.
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Can't just be a main character, it has to be someone that hits close to home. I'm calling Carl. It'll be something that gets him to truly understand Rick's worldview these days.
8BitsAtATime
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A cougar will always be stronger than a pack of wolves
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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A group that is so aggressive would probably run through whatever ammunition they had pretty rapidly. They're too undisciplined to amass a respectable stockpile.
That aside, they seem to enjoy the brutality.
More_Badass
Member
The crafty Wolves who set up traps for wayward travelers and can capture and contain a small horde of walkers seems like a far cry from the massacring gang here
bearythebear
Member
Please get a haircut Carl
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Well Morgan got annoying fast. His ppl are literally getting chopped to pieces and he's showing mercy. As if they won't come back.
NoLongerALurker
Banned
If you remember back to the season 5 finale, when the wolf confronted Morgan he was holding a gun. Morgan ended up picking up the gun and it turned out to be empty, so it would appear they don't have any ammo for guns.
The Artisan
Member
OK. so all previous records 17m from lat year, that was without the live+3?
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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The pacifism angle is pretty exhausting at this point. It strains belief even in a show set in a universe with walking corpses.
There isn't room for half-measures and mercy in this particular universe and anyone who had survived this long outside of Alexandria's walls would know why that is.
There isn't room for half-measures and mercy in this particular universe and anyone who had survived this long outside of Alexandria's walls would know why that is.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
We know what happens to idiots with codes in this franchise. lol
More_Badass
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Well, obviously something happened. We've seen Morgan when he had zero room for half-measures and mercy
Something changed him since then
The One and Done
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Well you have to look at Morgan's story. He's basically the version of Rick that didn't kill Shane but found another way. Will it likely get him and other people killed? Maybe. But I think it's important that we have a reminder that killing people indiscriminately is still grotesque, even if it seems necessary at times.
I like to think about it like this; if you believe the world it shit, then you will shit on it and it will shit on you. But if you believe the world is in need of help, then you will help it and it will help you. On the show Rick is the former, Morgan is the latter. They are doppelgängers of each other. One decided to go left, the other right.
I'm going deaf - what did Morgan say when Gabriel asked him who taught him? a change agent? I couldn't tell.
Carol is so badass I'm afraid the writers will feel the need to kill her off so she doesn't steal any of Rick's thunder. That would be a dumb move, but you never know.
Also, I'm n'thing everyone who says that Carl needs a haircut.
I think you mean Carol's people.
Carol is so badass I'm afraid the writers will feel the need to kill her off so she doesn't steal any of Rick's thunder. That would be a dumb move, but you never know.
Also, I'm n'thing everyone who says that Carl needs a haircut.
I think you mean Carol's people.
Content Roundup Episode 602: JSS
AMC Inside The Walking Dead:
Talking Deads Inside The Dead:
AMC Inside The Walking Dead:
- The Making of Episode 602, JSS - AMC
- Inside Episode 602: JSS - AMC
- Preview of Episode 603, Thank You - AMC | International
- Sneak Peek of Episode 603, Thank You - AMC | International
- The Hollywood Reporter - Walking Dead's Melissa McBride on Carol's Heroic Coming Out Moment
- AMC - The Walking Dead Q&A Austin Nichols (Spencer Monroe)
Talking Deads Inside The Dead:
- The actors playing the Wolves were told to be as mean as possible. Off camera, their biggest concern was who had the largest and best looking W scar.
- Director Jen Lynch hand-selected specific weapons for each assailant. Leftover butcher knives from Terminus and Bowie knives from the Claimers were used to arm the Wolves.
- The Wolves' attacked played out in real time, lasting 45 minutes. It was the exact length of time it look Carol's casserole to bake.
Badlucktroll
Gold Member
Does anyone care to speculate?
Is Negan the leader of this group, and the wolves are the lowest caste? Hence, when the wolf said "we didn't choose"
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I wish I could time travel to a Season 1 or 2 era and tell people that there would be a strong consensus that Carol is one of the main badass characters on this show.
They knocked it out of the park again. Show really found its footing under Gimple. There were so many little touches. Like after the attack, the timed goes off and Carl takes dinner out of the oven like nothing happened. Or Carol and Morgan passing each other in the street, like workers coming home from a long day in the office.
Glad we finally got to see The Wolves. Their presence has hungover the characters for awhile. I particularly enjoyed how it just happened. No prelude or dramatic moment. Life is calm one minute, and horrific the next.
Aren't things still going to be going haywire since the horn would have distracted some of the walkers from the route they were on?
They knocked it out of the park again. Show really found its footing under Gimple. There were so many little touches. Like after the attack, the timed goes off and Carl takes dinner out of the oven like nothing happened. Or Carol and Morgan passing each other in the street, like workers coming home from a long day in the office.
Glad we finally got to see The Wolves. Their presence has hungover the characters for awhile. I particularly enjoyed how it just happened. No prelude or dramatic moment. Life is calm one minute, and horrific the next.
Aren't things still going to be going haywire since the horn would have distracted some of the walkers from the route they were on?
rainking187
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I guess it shows how competent the people are in Alexandria are that Carol didn't seem worried about being shot by any of them when she was dressed up as one of the Wolves. And I know most of the group is out trying to lead the walkers away, but they should probably have left someone that's actually capable behind as a lookout.
Mad Season
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Carols going to die soon. I just know it
The Silver
Member
The shot where Carol is looking out the window and the guy comes out of nowhere and kills that woman might be my favorite shot in the series.
Absolutely brutal, no warning, no frills, just all there in its rawness.
Absolutely brutal, no warning, no frills, just all there in its rawness.
Mr Fahrenheit
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That was a good episode, I wasn't big on the last one because it had a first year student film vibe to the way it was shot/edited, this actually felt like a real episode. I'm glad Carol got to be badass again, that really built up. Morgan is starting to get old, I can get the not wanting to kill thing in most situations, but dozens of people are literally getting butchered in front of him and he's standing there like a jackass, they're going to have to reveal some earth shattering shit about Morgan to justify that. And yea, they gotta do something about Carl's hair, unless they show how he carries around a crank-powered straightening iron and half a backpack full of hairspray to maintain that luscious post-apocalyptic-scene-kid look.
Yabberwocky
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I'm so pleased what the show has done with Jessie in comparison to her comic counterpart, she's fantastic.
Ross Marquand did an amazing job at the end, too. Poor Aaron.
Ross Marquand did an amazing job at the end, too. Poor Aaron.
More_Badass
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Oh snap, Episode 4 looks like it might be 90 minutes long
Kadin
Member
I thought this exact same thing the moment he and Enid were in the house back to back talking. Just doesn't seem very realistic in that world.
Please don't just make a post like this dropping a significant spoiler from the comic without any warning.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
We got a mini vignette of a girl eating a turtle. Are you happy Andy Greenwald?
HadesGigas
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It's hard to say considering we know so little about them, but presumably there'd be some relatively sane ones in this group that are the leaders and planners, and they use the type that were in this episode as shock troops, similar to the way they weaponize walkers. And giving guns to these people you're treating like animals is probably not the smartest idea.
They were capturing some people. I would guess they are doing that to get new blood to break mentally and turn into more wolves. That one who Morgan told to leave said that it "wasn't their choice".
Best case scenario, that one who took the gun does something good with it.
Nah, I think guns just aren't that common anymore as time goes by.
Sure America is full of guns, but how much ammo is still out there after years and years? The first Wolves guy that meets with Morgan had a gun with no ammo.
How many guns are probably hidden under dead bodies because people got swarmed, or still hidden in peoples houses? or no longer work?
Sure America is full of guns, but how much ammo is still out there after years and years? The first Wolves guy that meets with Morgan had a gun with no ammo.
How many guns are probably hidden under dead bodies because people got swarmed, or still hidden in peoples houses? or no longer work?
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
So...
that was easily one of the most thrilling (and violent!) episodes of the series to date. Carol is a beast!
Very impressed by how this season is turning out. It's really not what I expected at all.
lmao
I agree. They can get a lot of dramatic mileage out of splitting the larger group into several smaller groups, and I feel like this is one of the more exciting and clever ways in which they've done it thus far.
that was easily one of the most thrilling (and violent!) episodes of the series to date. Carol is a beast!
Very impressed by how this season is turning out. It's really not what I expected at all.
lmao
I agree. They can get a lot of dramatic mileage out of splitting the larger group into several smaller groups, and I feel like this is one of the more exciting and clever ways in which they've done it thus far.
Previously on The Walking Dead:
The foliage reminded me of Naked Snake...yeah, better not use that code name.
60% chance of recovery unless he has a wormhole.
Plus how many groups out there are probably hoarding guns? Look at the amount of guns vs people that Alexandria has. They have a full armoury. I have a feeling that's quite rare out there and most groups are roaming out there with rudimentary weaponry. It also talks to the whole "returning back to primal".
Plus firearms attract walkers, so how many people died due to firing off their guns and attracting the hoards?
Plus firearms attract walkers, so how many people died due to firing off their guns and attracting the hoards?
timetokill
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Carol has outclassed Daryl at this point. Best character on the show.
I knew as soon as Morgan got surrounded that he was gonna go Rafiki on those motherfuckers. Dude's gonna have to learn to kill someone by the end of this season.
These two episodes are promising as fuck for this season. Haven't enjoyed the show this much in a long time.
The Ricktatorship is in, and they are putting fools down quick this season. Loving it.
You just know punkass kid and Enid are gonna fuck it all up soon. Probably ran off to join the wolves, the ungrateful fucks.
Wonder if Rick's new hottie is gonna have to drop her own son, or what. Maybe the little brother?
I knew as soon as Morgan got surrounded that he was gonna go Rafiki on those motherfuckers. Dude's gonna have to learn to kill someone by the end of this season.
These two episodes are promising as fuck for this season. Haven't enjoyed the show this much in a long time.
The Ricktatorship is in, and they are putting fools down quick this season. Loving it.
You just know punkass kid and Enid are gonna fuck it all up soon. Probably ran off to join the wolves, the ungrateful fucks.
Wonder if Rick's new hottie is gonna have to drop her own son, or what. Maybe the little brother?
lazybones18
Banned
ok, what the hell is CM Punk doing that's preventing him from appearing on next week's Talking Dead with YNB? I don't think he's making his UFC debut anytime soon
Rekki-Maru
Banned
good call, as long as Judith is alive Carl's odds of dying are always going to remain at 50%. I'm thinking Carl and Glenn this season. It looked like Glenn getting stabbed by Nick in the season trailer. Nick's got a crazy look in his eyes, like he's looking someone in the face while stabbing downwards. It could be someone else but he's not killing a walker like that.
theshizzle
Member
What did Rosita say in response to the guy who asked how they live like this?
Something like "This group, Abraham, and this place is something worth dying for."
giancarlo123x
Banned
Either that or a jump in time to an older Carl on his own beating ass.
*comic spoilers*
Really hope not. They shouldn't rush into Negan. They still need to go into the Hilltop, Jesus and all that stuff before they gat to him
jediyoshi
Member
The shootout scenes that involved a lot of movement were ace. Carol running down the street popping off and those two folks getting the raiders from the porch stood out to me.
Huge improvement and change of pace over the endless magazine automatic assault rifle spray or people hiding behind cover for a million years.
Huge improvement and change of pace over the endless magazine automatic assault rifle spray or people hiding behind cover for a million years.
Neuromancer
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I had no idea my favorite nurse Zoey Barkow was going to be in this season.
darkwing-buck
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Jeez Carol murdered like 9 people in this episode.
UberTag
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'Fraid not. No mole necessary here as all of the bread crumbs were laid out for us nicely in last season's finale.
The dude Morgan took down at the end of tonight's ep was the same guy that attacked him late last season with his buddy. They would later take down red poncho dude near the booby-trapped cannery where Aaron and Daryl were ambushed and rescued by Morgan. Aaron left his backpack behind which is where this guy obtained the pictures and location of Alexandria so he could round up his buddies and attack.
They probably waited until Rick and the gang had skidaddled to herd some zombies before making their move but no informant was needed for this venture. Morgan spared the dude that would eventually fuck over the entire city. And then spared more Wolves tonight who would escape with a gun and will no doubt cause more carnage in the future.
In short, Morgan's mercy has been the death of Alexandria. A far worse plague on the city than Rick Grimes.
Still a smaller body count than what she and her zombie posse reaped on Terminus in last season's premiere.
I really though Carl was going to take the meal out of the oven and then notice Judith missing from the crib on the baby monitor.
Also seemed like the girl was with the Wolves, perhaps previously, they way she half said "That's how we..." speaking towards how the camp was raided. I missed the first minute of the episode where she was being introduced so not sure if I missed something in her intro (turned on when she was hiding behind the sheet of wood). Actually thought she was going to stab Carl at some point with her (at the time seemingly ominous) "I won't say goodbye".
Also seemed like the girl was with the Wolves, perhaps previously, they way she half said "That's how we..." speaking towards how the camp was raided. I missed the first minute of the episode where she was being introduced so not sure if I missed something in her intro (turned on when she was hiding behind the sheet of wood). Actually thought she was going to stab Carl at some point with her (at the time seemingly ominous) "I won't say goodbye".
Judith is still in the house correct? I swera I don't ever remember anything showing the baby.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Great episode. Crazy Last of Us vibes.
That intro was one of the best in a long time. Probably in the top 3 of the series.
Keep that hair short
That intro was one of the best in a long time. Probably in the top 3 of the series.
Keep that hair short
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