Can Crusher
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The Walking Dead Season 7, Part 1 Sundays on AMC
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COMIC SPOILER:
Hate to tell you this, but 59 issues after his introduction, Negan's still very much alive and is right at the center of the main storyline.
Napoleonthechimp
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Yes, they know how to run the show in order to grab ratings (unnecessary cliffhangers and fakeouts). They didn't need to mind you and could've resorted to competent storytelling. If how they treated this show early on is any indication then the quality of the show isn't on their list of priorities.
You know, not every showrunner and writer can be a genius. I'm not sure if there is any media so harshly judged as tv on this forum. Almost as bad as videogames on this forum. But for writers of this show that don't meet your standard, they do a fairly good job. Don't they get some credit?
I mean, I wasn't that big a fan of the cliffy neither but I thought this premiere made up for it because it was excellent. There are some in this very thread feeling like it was done better on tv than in the comics. Of course, it's all subjective which leads me to my next point.
Now that the rating are out, and they are pretty damn phenomenal, you guys ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, the average viewer, you know, not those on neogaf, actually enjoy cliffhangers or are at least excited by them. The showrunners and writers did their job this season. They did good.
Your complaints are valid, but some of us are beating a dead horse. We get it, this is TWD and will be for awhile. You can just not watch the show if it really really bothers you which is also a valid response to bad writing.
Disagree Guy
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They released some webisodes before Season 2 about it I think.
If I remember rightly
She sacrificed herself so her kids could run towards an army outpost and the walking dead tore her apart until she was like next to nothing
MaddenNFL64
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They lost me after last seasons finale.
They got me back after the season opener. Holy shit!
They got me back after the season opener. Holy shit!
Disagree Guy
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Could be acting like he was told though? Seeing as he didn't cry or break down like the rest.
More_Badass
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Remember what happened last time he had to witness and experience an extremely traumatic experience? It's pretty clear that Carl's anger and "just get it over with" attitude is intentional
Yeah I have a feeling Carl will be even worse then his dad.
ZackieChan
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So....they didn't lose you at all, because you came back. I'm sure it's the same as them "losing" a ton of viewers this week. See y'all soon.
This is my take. Dude is cold as ice. But would someone PLEASE CUT HIS FUCKING HAIR. I thought Negan was gonna make a crack about it when he pulled the hat off.
BlackGhost
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He acts like a Coral.
I wonder if there will be any more significant deaths of main characters this season. I actually kind of doubt it and since we got two on episode one, there won't be anymore until at least 2 seasons. Also IF there are gonna be any deaths this season I speculate that it is gonna be either Carol, Morgan, or Eugene.
Yeah his hair is annoying as.
TheLostBigBoss
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I think that's simply trying to mask his weakness of actually crying and being shocked liked the rest.
Chandler Riggs was most definitely the weakest link. Even if he was supposed to act cold, there is a better method of acting. He wasn't convincing at all. Particularly that teeth grinding scene when Glenn got the kiss of Lucille.
He's just sadly not that great an actor, and it's made even more salient by the fact that he was surrounded by exceptional acting in this episode especially.
He's just sadly not that great an actor, and it's made even more salient by the fact that he was surrounded by exceptional acting in this episode especially.
Air Zombie Meat
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Was great when Negan knocked that stupid hat off his head.
Ultra Numb
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Most likely.
It's not he can't do sad scenes because I think he's done them fairly well in the past such as the Lori death scene. However, Carl not completely breaking like the others and instead literally shaking with anger, zoning out a few times in S6 Finale just reinforces the possible idea that Carl's embracing what the world wants him to be, not what his Father wants him to be.
The Artisan
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that's kind of another problem with the show. Carl has the appearance of a young man now, but it's been how many years into the apocalypse? 2 and a half? He's looks way older than he's supposed to be at this time doesn't he?
They haven't really gave a timeline. Just done flash forwards like the opening last mid-season with Michonne and Rick living together.
carol growing older is something I thought about last week too, it's going to be interesting to see how they tackle this because they barely mention the time difference from the start of the show to where we are now. flash forwards maybe?
yea I thought the same in terms of changes. Even weird seeing some of these characters
yea I thought the same in terms of changes. Even weird seeing some of these characters
Yeah, his hair and that hat have been annoying me for ages. Daryl needs a haircut real bad too.
I'd managed to avoid spoilers all off season and didn't get the chance to watch until the day after it aired. I knew about Glenn in the comic but part of me thought they wouldn't go through with it. Was flipping channels yesterday and saw the actors that play Abe and Eugene on some talk show and immediately flipped past it but thought I'd been spoilered. Why else would they be on a show unless they were the ones that got killed. Figured they'd wuss out and save Glenn yet again. So it was a shock when they actually went through with it. Damn that was brutal.
TheLostBigBoss
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If only that mom didn't get got
haircuts for all
haircuts for all
Just finished rewatching the episode and noticed that as well. Sasha's face when she looks at Abe and sees the peace signOne nice, subtle touch I missed during my first viewing: Abraham locking eyes with Negan when he knew Lucille was coming but also discreetly making one last peace sign with his left hand toward Sasha.
The Artisan
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I think it is presumed to be two and a half years. The opening last mid season was only like a few months after the Alexndria breach/infestation.
Comic Carl is probably more like that kid from Fear the Walking Dead than TV Corl, though not as stupid (or annoying). Hes constantly at odds with Rick and doesnt share his vision of what the world should be.
It's been about two years at this point.
Lashley
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Comic Carl is also a fucking badass
Also : we can "somewhat" measure time with Judith's growth. She looks like an 18 to 24 months old baby now, to which you can add the 9 months pregnancy of Lori. So yeah. 2,5ish years seems to be a valid "guesstimation"
Interesting to see some being concerned about Carol's age (well. Melissa MC Bride). She's not the only ageing member of the cast. Lennie James (Morgan) is just as old and...Norman Reedus is barely 3,5 years younger than she is.
All of them should be able to go a few more years (if they last) without showing too much of age discrepancy compared to the show's timeline with a bit of smart editing, make-up.
But Carl and Judith (when she'd be too "old" to be replaced randomly from season to season) are an issue. If they survive...
(well Carl will stop being an issue anyway with everyone used to see him as young adult ultimately)Just started watching the series over the summer, at first with just my wife, but then my 13 year old son started somewhere in season 2. Finally got caught up Sunday, just in time for the premier. That episode was probably the most tense, brutal hour of television. My wife was covering my son's face with a blanket so he couldn't see what was going on. Worst. Parents. Ever.
Also, I feel horrible for laughing way too hard at this, but...
Also, I feel horrible for laughing way too hard at this, but...
Zeus The Dino
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Lmaoo, right im sure they lost you.
Guys, I'm not saying there would be a perfect meeting between Rick and Negan, just that it would have been vastly better than defying him. Last episode was evidence of this. Do you really think he wouldn't have been less reasonable if Rick and co. hadn't murdered scores of their people?
Steven Yeun delivered in this scene so big. His acting after he got hit was incredible and really sold how emotionally devastating this moment was.
Can someone remind me.. does he say the same thing in the comic? I remember him saying Maggie but I don't remember if he included "I'll find you". Still gives me goosebumps..
Gorechylde
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Not sure if you're a comic reader so I'll spoiler this with regard to Chandler possibly being recast. Decent spoilers for what's to come.
They'll probably wait until All Out War is finished and then recast when Rick and co establish settlements and Carl moves to the hilltop. That's the most notable time jump I can think of from the comics.
He only said Maggie in the comics.
Gorechylde
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He just cries out Maggie. Him stringing a sentence in the show was the ONLY part I didn't like. His skull was caved in, he isn't waxing poetic.
More_Badass
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Over a century ago, someone had a 13lb pipe blasted completely through their brain and skull, and then he walked to a doctor in town and asked for medical assistance
Human bodies are more resilient than you give them credit
Eh, He didn't seem so nice with Hilltop. They likely didn't really oppose too much since there aren't really any skilled fighters and no one has guns. Negan still beat a kid to death to show that he was serious. It was this story that was part of the negotiation to kill Negan. I understand what you're arguing, but there doesn't seem to have been any real way to avoid an eventual run in with Negan. Negan does what Negan does. he was gunna kill someone regardless. That's part of the strategy. The motorcycle gang said as much. It would have stayed at just one victim if Daryl hadn't lost it. Last episode was only evidence that Negan will do what it takes to break the people he wants to enslave. That's all we can really gather. The evidence presented by the show is that Negan kills if only to get the cooperation of the people he wants to affiliate. Rick and co already knew he wasn't exactly reasonable about that particular detail. You're a slave or you die.
I've seen that episode of Mysteries at the Museum.
They don't know who they're fucking with
Fixed for what I saw in the censored clip, the uncensored one is just better all round.
Yeah the uncensored version is so good.
And it might be a while, but Negan will learn the same lesson.
More_Badass
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Except it was just pointless posturing because if it wasn't for complete luck, they all would have died. It was the exact same situation as the premiere (Rick being tough, finds themselves in a fucked up scenario), except there was no Carol to save them
m_shortpants
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About Carl's haircut, I had heard one theory is, that the last time he got a haircut from, was from his mom.
Damn, the feels.
Is there a time when
he kills or tortures someone that's not in a response to something someone said or did in the comic? Because I don't remember that ever happening.
More_Badass
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The long hair actually makes sense nowAbout Carl's haircut, I had heard one theory is, that the last time he got a haircut from, was from his mom.
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