150Mhz CPU boost on XBO, now in production

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He was saying Sharepoint sucks, which I partially agree with, having worked on it myself, it can be a pain in the ass. So because the Xbox launch is delayed in many countries due to localization, I said that his wife works at a department that also sucks...
Really, do I have to explain the jokes on here now?

No, they were just so dry I couldn't tell they were jokes lol
 
they aren't new definitions because the terms themselves are subjective

if your talking about buying a car

price: a cheaply made car selling for 15k that isn't worth the price
vs
a more expensive luxury car for 35k that delivers the value of a 50k$ car.
based off of that, which car has the better price?

size: a small compact 4 door, yet is too big for an overweight guy
vs
the same overweight guy that fits more comfortably in a full size car
based off of that, smaller isn't always better right?

Power: someone's grandma needs a car to get around town, one car has 400whp
vs another car that has 175whp but gets better mpg
Based off of that, whats a better car for grandma

I know this isn't the type of post GAFfers don't want to read, but it has nothing to do with PS4 vs XB1, just making a point that the aspects aren't definitive

The Xbox one is a reasonably priced car that comes with an expensive caravan (kinect) that most customers aren't too keen on.
 
This has been the weirdest lead up to a launch ever. Shaping up to be the worst 3rd console curse ever, and the damage control is cray.

Even crazier since a lot of stuff is being addressed before launch. It's been one benefit of the preorder culture that's permeated the industry lately.
 
Lower price, better specs, smaller size are all factual statement that don't take anyone's opinion into account. You can argue how you don't care about any or all of these things but that doesn't mean they aren't facts.


The Xbox One looks absolutely fine, cooling wise.

They are facts. Also the under powered Wii won this gens sales race.

Anything is possible.
 
One good on MS for the boost... Increases are always a plus.

That said, Xbox One has proven to be the craziest hardware launch I have ever seen. Its been an ever moving target in terms of what comes with the box (headset, Fifa for some...), what comes inside the box (GPU, CPU increases since reveal) and what will be desiged to work with box (online, drm...)

Whats next? Xbox One VR headset incoming?

Let us not forget Sony changed things as well. Like, now they have a light bar on the controller that does... well it works with a camera that is sold separately.

And the headset (VR glasses) was in the plans since that leaked document.
 
Well.. so many love to state their opinions as fact. I just wanted to be part of the group. ;)

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If (loss caused by decrease in reliability) < (potential profit through marketing higher clock than ps4)
then upclock.
else keepclock.

Folks at MS just decided that if statement was true.
 
Not before this, no. They also didn't confirm the GPU clock speed until the 853MHz announcement and also commented that it was up from 800MHz.

So only a bump off of original spec based on what we knew about the base processor. I suppose good news for MS here with a faster processor, though I'm not sure it translates into much in the way of additional processing performance. I wonder how long they've had the clock set.
 
All this over clocking MS?

I guess this means we can expect similar HW lifetimes to last gen then?

Are you actively trying to create RROD: Episode Deux?

Is it really overclocking though? It's not like they are taking a stock Intel processor on a PC and boosting it up 500 mhz more, these are super efficient Jaguar cores. As with the GPU clock speed going up, they must have finally gotten to a good optimization of the OS and it allowed more overhead. As with the PSP, I could see both the Xbox One and PS4 both getting more incremental boosts like this over the life of each system.
 
Let us not forget Sony changed things as well. Like, now they have a light bar on the controller that does... well it works with a camera that is sold separately.

And the headset (VR glasses) was in the plans since that leaked document.

They never committed to the camera though. Not officially enough to go back on it. That being said, I have the camera pre-ordered.

I'm going to use it with my PC as well.
 
I really wish people would understand Albert is just doing his job, and simply respect him as a guy who's doing his job. You may not want an XB1 at all, and that is just fine, but there is no need to be an ass to someone from Microsoft who wants to visit this forum to share the Xbox team's perspective on things.
Yep, I completely agree with you here. This stupid faboy shit is getting out of hand as of late. Some people here are taking their console warrior bullshit way too far. I would be embarrassed to be associated with half of the the things so many are posting lately.
 
And the X1 has the better games at launch. Not sure about you man, but I want to play some great games.

Probably why I'll have both a PS4 and X1. Just like I have a 360 and PS3.

That's down to personal taste, but honestly, that does not look to be the case at all.
 
There have been multiple tech presentations on the XBO architecture and a lot of leaks that turned out to be legit and none of them have even hinted at something like this. Developers have even commented that the PS4 GPU is considerably more powerful. There is almost zero chance of this being true.

there is absolutely zero chance of it being true, the source is misterxmedia and he can easily be proven to be a liar because his "seychelles honeymoon" pics are fake
 
Thought that KZSF presentation came out in may...

That's when the slides came out publically but all of the information was based off of the demo we saw in February, running on older devkits. It only talked specifically about how things were queued and optimized for that specific demo, not the final game or the game in progress since then.
 
So with the audio chip having roughly the power of a single Jaguar core and now this 10% boost in CPU. Its almost like we have the performance of 10 cores now instead of 8 ;)

This makes about as much sense as saying your dick doubles as an additional toe so now you have more balance when climbing/running.
 
Yep, I completely agree with you here. This stupid faboy shit is getting out of hand as of late. Some people here are taking their console warrior bullshit way too far. I would be embarrassed to be associated with half of the the things so many are posting lately.
Yep. As an adult who reads this forum to get news on the videogame industry, threads like this are just embarrassing to read.
 
The Xbox one is a reasonably priced car that comes with an expensive caravan (kinect) that most customers aren't too keen on.

I think if it comes with the car (xb1 with Kinect) its natural for a consumer to utilize the package as a whole, I wouldn't purchase a 458 italia and NOT use the Ferrari luggage that comes with it

just because the general consensus on neogaf is that Kinect is worthless, doesn't mean the rest of the world thinks that
 
This is why it is better to have a bigger console with bigger cooling (and an external power brick) versus cramming everything in a tight shell.

Faster hardware in a smaller box vs. slower hardware in a bigger box. Sony fucked up...

Say hi to my cousin who works at MS for me, he works in a division (Sharepoint) that actually makes money unlike yours though :)

Tell your cousin I hate Sharepoint with a passion.
 
Good to see MS being scrappy.

Sure you could argue going all PR crazy every time you make a marginal spec bump smells of desperation but hey.... thats because thats what it is and they need to be a little desperate here.

Got to give the base something to champion even if its something tiny.
 
Yeah, & that's going to matter much in the long run.

Yup. Games are starting to make more use of GPUs now and the trend will continue. There's a reason why both companies went with such low speed CPUs that don't even match quite a few PC quad cores.
 
Yep, I completely agree with you here. This stupid faboy shit is getting out of hand as of late. Some people here are taking their console warrior bullshit way too far. I would be embarrassed to be associated with half of the the things so many are posting lately.

There are real folk like this too. My Eurogamer Expo visit was a real eye opener to how some people "behave"

Surely this is good news for all, PS4 and Xbox One and I don't see why people are trying to justify sternly their purchasing intentions with regards to this. Chill out
 
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