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[EdibleKnife]

I think that is what darkinstinct was trying to say.

But they didn't say that and I argue couldn't say that because they admit to not knowing any of the context

 

[Elegant Weapon]

In many countries, statistically minorities commit more crimes in relation to the majority.
Racists will abuse those statistics, express their toxic views and blame the race, nationality, religion or ethnic background of the criminals.
when in truth those minorities are systematically oppressed and pushed down and kept in poverty. Poverty is the true main reason for those statistics. Poverty turns good people into criminals, especially in a judicial system that does not rely on rehabilitation. I think that is what darkinstinct was trying to say.

It's not just poverty. Cops are more likely to not arrest a white person for the same crime as black person. Whites smoke weed at the same or higher rates as black folks, get who gets arrested for it way more?

Cops are more likely to not issue a speeding ticket to a white person, etc.

 

[Moff]

It's not just poverty. Cops are more likely to not arrest a white person for the same crime as black person. Whites smoke weed at the same or higher rates as black folks, get who gets arrested for it way more?

Cops are more likely to not issue a speeding ticket to a white person, etc.

I never said "just" poverty, I said true main reason.
Racial profiling is part of the systematic oppression I wrote about.

 

[F34R]

It's not just poverty. Cops are more likely to not arrest a white person for the same crime as black person. Whites smoke weed at the same or higher rates as black folks, get who gets arrested for it way more?

Cops are more likely to not issue a speeding ticket to a white person, etc.

I'd really like to read some sources that provide that information.

 

[Liquid-San]

Hmmm.... I probably would've been one to state to wait until the facts come rolling in, but the fact that the victim was shot in the back of the head and in the back definitely raises questions as to whether he was even a threat. Moreover, a user mentioned disarming a suspect. Does anyone know the procedure/training surrounding disarmament of a suspect with a gun? Genuinely curious. I'm really not understanding why a police officer's first instinct is always to kill...

I'd really like to read some sources that provide that information.

I'm sure someone can cite the demographics within a prison cell so I'll abstain from doing so myself. That said, you can't really be serious about this. It's almost common knowledge at this point that black men are targeted more than white men when it comes to crimes. But I'll also end my statement by saying that I was once pulled over for a damaged headlight by a white police officer and he expressed that his chief had told him that when they have to meet their quota, they go after certain ethnicities more so than others. You can take this with a grain of salt, but I for one believe it.

For those who might be curious, he didn't write up a ticket even though my insurance had just lapsed as well.

 

[Elegant Weapon]

I never said "just" poverty, I said true main reason.
Racial profiling is part of the systematic oppression I wrote about.

Word

I'd really like to read some sources that provide that information.

Hard to believe you don't already know this but ok

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...st-gap-in-nine-charts/?utm_term=.3fd1d9917bb9


https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksh...e-to-lock-up-blacks-and-protesters-continues/

The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.

 

[Bronx-Man]

Mistake on my part for quoting Bronx... but it was one post since ive been in this thread for a couple pages. If you've noticed ive went at a few of those posts that stun you.

My mistake Bronx.

It's alright. But this thread is getting to be too much for me.

 

[PaulExcellent]

This thread is filled with some of the craziest bullshit, my God.
RIP to the victim.

It's almost like the mods gave up. Damn.

 

[Sunster]

This thread is filled with some of the craziest bullshit, my God.
RIP to the victim.

HEY. don't call him a victim! All the evidence isn't out yet. He could be a thief for all we know. He is a minority so odds are he's a criminal. RIP to all the cops who fell in the line of duty.

Spoiler

////s

 

[Frozenprince]

It's alright. But this thread is getting to be too much for me.

Go back to Wrasslin, it's safer.

 

[F34R]

Hmmm.... I probably would've been one to state to wait until the facts come rolling in, but the fact that the victim was shot in the back of the head and in the back definitely raises questions as to whether he was even a threat. Moreover, a user mentioned disarming a suspect. Does anyone know the procedure/training surrounding disarmament of a suspect with a gun? Genuinely curious. I'm really not understanding why a police officer's first instinct is always to kill...

We trained for one on one disarming someone under circumstances where pulling our weapon wasn't going to be fast enough. i.e. someone within arms distance with their gun pointing away from their body, and my gun is still in the holster. You can try and give commands to drop a weapon all day long, but at some point when a threat is shown (gun raised towards someone) it's reasonable to use deadly force.

I'm sure someone can cite the demographics within a prison cell so I'll abstain from doing so myself. That said, you can't really be serious about this. It's almost common knowledge at this point that black men are targeted more than white men when it comes to crimes. But I'll also end my statement by saying that I was once pulled over for a damaged headlight by a white police officer and he expressed that his chief had told him that when they have to meet their quota, they go after certain ethnicities more so than others. You can take this with a grain of salt, but I for one believe it.

For those who might be curious, he didn't write up a ticket even though my insurance had just lapsed as well.

I honestly was hoping to get something that I can read about to educate myself on something beyond common knowledge. I didn't mean anything off the cuff about asking for a source; as in, no source, not real. Didn't mean it like that at all. The department I retired from, we wrote more tickets to white people than all others combined. Demographics were 55% white, 42% African-American. White people speed a lot in our city, or don't use damn turn signals, ignore stop lights/signs, and DUI.

reply is in bold.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

I don't see how you can make a genuine argument that me being honestly disgusted by police regularly killing with impunity, knowing all they have to say is x, y, z is just as bad as denying the fact cops murder people except that murder means unlawful killing and police don't abide by law the way regular citizens do, so police never murder people, of course

How is going "I bet cops [insert incredibly demonizing action]" an argument? How is it an addition to the thread at all?

I'm not denying that it happens, that a lot of cops are racist, etc.; hell, I used to log police shootings. I've read some disgusting shit. I've also read some genuine mistakes and some shitty mistakes that never should have happened due to lack of training. I've read logs that were straight up murder of a suspect or of a fellow cop.

So how is your anti-cop porn fantasy relevant to this thread? You can be a productive poster without resorting to whatifism.

 

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North Carolina Man Arrested After Brandishing Shotgun At Passing Cars & Shooting Pistol At Deputy
Man With Airsoft Gun Is Arrested After 6 Hour Standoff

They're lucky they weren't shot. Kyle Dinkheller wasn't so lucky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDOUPGgSvR0

RIP

 

[Elegant Weapon]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/06/us/ferguson-missouri-racism-tickets-fines/index.html

Just about every branch of Ferguson government -- police, municipal court, city hall -- participated in "unlawful" targeting of African-American residents such as Hoskin for tickets and fines, the Justice Department concluded this week.
The millions of dollars in fines and fees paid by black residents served an ultimate goal of satisfying "revenue rather than public safety needs," the Justice Department found.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...and-police-department/?utm_term=.5160dfe7c4a7

Our investigation concluded that there is reasonable cause to believe that CDP engages in a pattern or practice of using unreasonable force in violation of the Fourth Amendment. That
pattern manifested in a range of ways, including:

The unnecessary and excessive use of deadly force, including shootings and head strikes with impact weapons;
The unnecessary, excessive or retaliatory use of less lethal force including tasers, chemical spray and fists;
Excessive force against persons who are mentally ill or in crisis, including in cases where the officers were called exclusively for a welfare check; and
The employment of poor and dangerous tactics that place officers in situations where avoidable force becomes inevitable and places officers and civilians at unnecessary risk.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/...eport-of-racial-bias-by-baltimore-police.html

the most pronounced racial disparities were in arrests for the most discretionary offenses: For example, 91 percent of those arrested solely for ”failure to obey" or ”trespassing" were African-American, even though the city is 63 percent black, the report found.

In one telling anecdote from the report, a shift commander provided officers with boilerplate language on how to write up trespassing arrest reports of people found near housing projects. The template contained an automatic description of the arrestee: ”A BLACK MALE."

”The supervisor's template thus presumes that individuals arrested for trespassing will be African-American," the report stated, describing the sort of detentions the language was intended to facilitate as ”facially unconstitutional."

The report indicated that the frequency of arrests without probable cause was reflected in the fact that booking supervisors and prosecutors had declined to file charges, after arrests by their own officers, more than 11,000 times since 2010.

This isn't some unheard of issue, I'm pretty sure most american cities have similar reports of fucked up discriminatory racial practices

How is going "I bet cops [insert incredibly demonizing action]" an argument? How is it an addition to the thread at all?

I'm not denying that it happens, that a lot of cops are racist, etc.; hell, I used to log police shootings. I've read some disgusting shit. I've also read some genuine mistakes and some shitty mistakes that never should have happened due to lack of training. I've read logs that were straight up murder of a suspect or of a fellow cop.

So how is your anti-cop porn fantasy relevant to this thread? You can be a productive poster without resorting to whatifism.

It's just me saying fuck these murderous power hungry cowards who. Despite evidence that they target certain groups, you're mad at me for pointing that out? Fuck off

 

[Liquid-San]

We trained for one on one disarming someone under circumstances where pulling our weapon wasn't going to be fast enough. i.e. someone within arms distance with their gun pointing away from their body, and my gun is still in the holster. You can try and give commands to drop a weapon all day long, but at some point when a threat is shown (gun raised towards someone) it's reasonable to use deadly force.

I honestly was hoping to get something that I can read about to educate myself on something beyond common knowledge. I didn't mean anything off the cuff about asking for a source; as in, no source, not real. Didn't mean it like that at all. The department I retired from, we wrote more tickets to white people than all others combined. Demographics were 55% white, 42% African-American. White people speed a lot in our city, or don't use damn turn signals, ignore stop lights/signs, and DUI.

reply is in bold.

Thank you. As a police officer, (or former), it's good to see you guys weigh in on threads like this as it sheds some light as to what goes on behind the scenes. If you don't mind me asking, how do you feel about all of the news surrounding these killings by cops?

And my story served two purposes, (or at least I hope it did). The first was to show that police officers do target certain people, and the second to show that cops aren't inherently racist. We weren't at the scene so as to why people on the internet jump to conclusions constantly baffles me. (Don't get me wrong, I'm SURE some incidents were due to racism.) I also understand that it's getting pulled over vs a minority with a guns, but I still feel racism isn't the biggest reason as to why men of color continuously get shot. I almost feel as if it's the tension surrounding police brutality that's causing them to shoot first, ask second. Almost as if an overwhelming sense of paranoia swarms over officers whenever they're in uniform.

 

[Frozenprince]

They're lucky they weren't shot. Kyle Dinkheller wasn't so lucky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDOUPGgSvR0

RIP

Lol man you really are a piece of work.

Co-opting a thread about a black child being shot to death to make your fucked up #bluelivesmatter shit.

Honestly. You should be ashamed.

 

[Heroman]

They're lucky they weren't shot. Kyle Dinkheller wasn't so lucky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDOUPGgSvR0

RIP

What are you doing?

 

[NoName999]

They're lucky they weren't shot. Kyle Dinkheller wasn't so lucky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDOUPGgSvR0

RIP

Seriously, drop the whataboutism. Just admit that you're for the cops no matter what bs they pull.

 

[Beefy]

They're lucky they weren't shot. Kyle Dinkheller wasn't so lucky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDOUPGgSvR0

RIP

You getting worse

 

[F34R]

Thank you. As a police officer, (or former), it's good to see you guys weigh in on threads like this as it sheds some light as to what goes on behind the scenes. If you don't mind me asking, how do you feel about all of the news surrounding these killings by cops?

And my story served two purposes, (or at least I hope it did). The first was to show that police officers do target certain people, and the second to show that cops aren't inherently racist. We weren't at the scene so as to why people on the internet jump to conclusions constantly baffles me. (Don't get me wrong, I'm SURE some incidents were due to racism.) I also understand that it's getting pulled over vs a minority with a guns, but I still feel racism isn't the biggest reason as to why men of color continuously get shot. I almost feel as if it's the tension surrounding police brutality that's causing them to shoot first, ask second. Almost as if an overwhelming sense of paranoia swarms over officers whenever they're in uniform.

It's always heartbreaking to see that someone has died, whether justified or not. Obviously an unjust shooting, I'm 100% appalled when that happens. I hope those involved are punished as severe as possible. I don't like bad cops, never will. Even if it's something as simple as a traffic ticket that isn't right, I will fight whatever fights I can; even retired (there's a post elsewhere I made about giving a citizen in my city a defense against a ticket that is unjust). He goes to court tomorrow.

I'm sure there are police officers that have targets, I wouldn't ever deny that. The other part, people will have their own opinions and conclusions when they want to with whatever information is given to them.

 

[jmizzal]

Even the freaking military is not to engage unless engaged upon, but these cops just shot to kill black citizens without even trying to get the situation under control

 

[Gattsu25]

This thread is filled with some of the craziest bullshit, my God.
RIP to the victim.

It's almost like the mods gave up. Damn.

They got rid of the admin that cared.

 

[ThisGuy]

Wheres the bish signal?

 

[Straight Edge]

Even the freaking military is not to engage unless engaged upon, but these cops just shot to kill black citizens without even trying to get the situation under control

Yes this. Soldiers on foreign soil exert more restraint in actual war zones.

 

[squall211]

Fuck cops.

Nah, most are good.

Fuck the bad ones.

 

[killamajig]

Hmmm.... I probably would've been one to state to wait until the facts come rolling in, but the fact that the victim was shot in the back of the head and in the back definitely raises questions as to whether he was even a threat. Moreover, a user mentioned disarming a suspect. Does anyone know the procedure/training surrounding disarmament of a suspect with a gun? Genuinely curious. I'm really not understanding why a police officer's first instinct is always to kill...



I'm sure someone can cite the demographics within a prison cell so I'll abstain from doing so myself. That said, you can't really be serious about this. It's almost common knowledge at this point that black men are targeted more than white men when it comes to crimes. But I'll also end my statement by saying that I was once pulled over for a damaged headlight by a white police officer and he expressed that his chief had told him that when they have to meet their quota, they go after certain ethnicities more so than others. You can take this with a grain of salt, but I for one believe it.

For those who might be curious, he didn't write up a ticket even though my insurance had just lapsed as well.

I can give you an anecdote that can answer that. I wasn't a police officer but I was a correction officer about 20 years ago. I mostly hung out with other law enforcement people at the time. Some other correction officers, deputies and Border Patrol agents in our group. A lot of times we would swap stories and one of the lines that would come up was....

Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.

 

[Enzom21]

Nah, most are good.

Fuck the bad ones.

Do all of these "good" cops turn in the bad ones?

 

[Straight Edge]

I can give you an anecdote that can answer that. I wasn't a police officer but I was a correction officer about 20 years ago. I mostly hung out with other law enforcement people at the time. Some other correction officers, deputies and Border Patrol agents in our group. A lot of times we would swap stories and one of the lines that would come up was....

Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.

Especially when those 12 never convict.

 

[EdibleKnife]

They're lucky they weren't shot. Kyle Dinkheller wasn't so lucky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDOUPGgSvR0

RIP

Because Kyle died do you believe that's good enough reason to throw out the concept of tact and de-escalation in favor of simply turning the streets into a blood bath? Cops sign up for dangerous work yet the moment they are called to a scene with a gun or anything that looks like a gun, they should feel free to kill the civilian and sort everything out later, right? I feel that Kyle and the North Carolina officer and the officers at the standoff are all heroes. All utilized their training to the fullest extent to try and bring about a peaceful resolution for all parties. If you feel the same way about Kyle, it's probably not simply because he died in the line of duty but he died still earnestly trying to talk down that Vietnam vet without having to resort to killing him because protecting citizens, even the possibly dangerous ones, is also (or at least should be) part of the job description of being an officer of the law.

 

[killamajig]

Even the freaking military is not to engage unless engaged upon, but these cops just shot to kill black citizens without even trying to get the situation under control

When I was correction officer some of the police that I talked to would think I was an absolute mad man working in a prison surrounded by all those criminals without a gun. I would laugh and say yeah I actually have to learn how to work with people and not just throw them in the back of my squad car and pass them off to somebody else to deal with. They seemed downright scared at thought of actually being around criminals without a gun. I would tell them when I walk down a run they lock the door behind me and I'm in there with 30-plus guys that could kill me before any help could arrive.

The police don't get the training that they need. On top of the fact that anyone that gets into that type of job probably has some ulterior motive than just wanting to serve the community if you catch my drift.

 

[killamajig]

Especially when those 12 never convict.

Especially back in the 90s when I worked. There was still that mentality of gangs taking over America and we need to lock everybody up, 3 Strikes yada yada yada.

When you're in court just make sure to use a lot of no sirs and yes ma'ams and look all polished and you should be good.

 

[norm9]

Based on recent pages, if I hadn't read the OP, I'd have thought a cop got shot in the back of the head.

 

[Captin Quacker]

Theyre not interested in a Black Panther revival at all. They can deal with unorganised rioting all night and day, but trained, armed men ready to fight to the death? They dont want that.
Some of the toughest "law and order" types in the country sounded scared and unnerved in the period right after those cop shootings in Dallas and Baton Rouge. The tough talk and posturing went out the window for about two or three weeks and the dialogue switched to de-escalation and talk of mutual respect between cops and the communities they police. I was surprised by how few seemed to notice this abrupt change in tone (it didnt last long), but I vividly remember it. It wasnt so much as what was being said, but who was saying it, because they'd never spoken that way ever before in their public life.

yep, just like any other bully fine with escalation untill it's in there yard

the hypocrisy is astronomically insane

 

[Liquid-San]

Some other correction officers, deputies and Border Patrol agents in our group. A lot of times we would swap stories and one of the lines that would come up was....

Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.

That's a disgusting mindset to have. Officers aren't here to murder us if they feel threatened, they're here to uphold the law and make sure criminals are tried in court. Instead, many seem to be becoming the criminals themselves.

The police don't get the training that they need. On top of the fact that anyone that gets into that type of job probably has some ulterior motive than just wanting to serve the community if you catch my drift.

This is where I currently stand right now. We're in need of a reform so badly it's not even funny. But if protests accomplish nothing, petitions amount to the same, what can we feasibly do?

 

[MHWilliams]

They got rid of the admin that cared.

This thread is filled with some of the craziest bullshit, my God.
RIP to the victim.

It's almost like the mods gave up. Damn.

Let me make this perfectly clear.

I, nor the other mods, are robots reading every damn thread or sitting on GAF all day. If you have a problem, PM someone about it, because this will actually get it taken care of. (Even then, still not on GAF all day, might be a while before they read your PM!)

But this line of posting? Shut it down. This has been your warning. You will not get another. Back to the thread topic at hand.

 

[R0ckman]

yep, just like any other bully fine with escalation untill it's in there yard

the hypocrisy is astronomically insane

So you have people who are recruited based on a lower IQ requirement vs people with no requirement except that they feel they have no more to lose. I wonder if it only lasted about 3 weeks because they didn't want show something like that may actually get them to get their act together.

 

[killamajig]

That's a disgusting mindset to have. Officers aren't here to murder us if they feel threatened, they're here to uphold the law and make sure criminals are tried in court. Instead, many seem to be becoming the criminals themselves.



This is where I currently stand right now. We're in need of a reform so badly it's not even funny. But if protests accomplish nothing, petitions amount to the same, what can we feasibly do?

I wish there was some kind of oversight from the federal government. It seems like a lot of departments are run like little fiefdoms. Even prisons within the same state can have a different vibe inside depending on who the administrators are.

 

[Syriel]

It's always heartbreaking to see that someone has died, whether justified or not. Obviously an unjust shooting, I'm 100% appalled when that happens. I hope those involved are punished as severe as possible. I don't like bad cops, never will. Even if it's something as simple as a traffic ticket that isn't right, I will fight whatever fights I can; even retired (there's a post elsewhere I made about giving a citizen in my city a defense against a ticket that is unjust). He goes to court tomorrow.

I'm sure there are police officers that have targets, I wouldn't ever deny that. The other part, people will have their own opinions and conclusions when they want to with whatever information is given to them.

Bolded is the problem. Punishments are rarely, if ever, meted out.

I can give you an anecdote that can answer that. I wasn't a police officer but I was a correction officer about 20 years ago. I mostly hung out with other law enforcement people at the time. Some other correction officers, deputies and Border Patrol agents in our group. A lot of times we would swap stories and one of the lines that would come up was....

Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.

And here the bolded are the words of cowards.

If people are afraid to serve and protect, they have no business being officers.

18-year-olds that sign up for the military have more integrity.

 

[Liquid-San]

I wish there was some kind of oversight from the federal government. It seems like a lot of departments are run like little fiefdoms. Even prisons within the same state can have a different vibe inside depending on who the administrators are.

I'm not too sure if that would solve the problem though. The federal government itself right now seems to be in shambles due to the current administration we're given, and even then if we were to look at the protest situations by minority groups it would seem that the government can't handle implementing rights/administrating principles correctly. America as a whole seems more backwards than most developed countries on various fronts.

If people are afraid to serve and protect, they have no business being officers.

These are my exact sentiments. I'd rather die performing my duty correctly than to breathe having disgraced the badge I pin on every morning. I don't understand how some officers sleep at night knowing what they've done.

 

[norm9]

And here the bolded are the words of cowards.

If people are afraid to serve and protect, they have no business being officers.

18-year-olds that sign up for the military have more integrity.

It's funny because that line is usually said by the regular people and NOT cops.

 

[excelsiorlef]

How is going "I bet cops [insert incredibly demonizing action]" an argument? How is it an addition to the thread at all?

I'm not denying that it happens, that a lot of cops are racist, etc.; hell, I used to log police shootings. I've read some disgusting shit. I've also read some genuine mistakes and some shitty mistakes that never should have happened due to lack of training. I've read logs that were straight up murder of a suspect or of a fellow cop.

So how is your anti-cop porn fantasy relevant to this thread? You can be a productive poster without resorting to whatifism.

Why is this of such concern to you. It's not fantasy either... In this thread people post a story about cops singing about Micheal Brown... We've seen police applaud Trump calling for an increase in police brutality when arresting people.

Nah, most are good.

Fuck the bad ones.

Good ones do nothing to curtail the bad ones.

Until the Blue Wall of silence is no more they are all culpable.

I can give you an anecdote that can answer that. I wasn't a police officer but I was a correction officer about 20 years ago. I mostly hung out with other law enforcement people at the time. Some other correction officers, deputies and Border Patrol agents in our group. A lot of times we would swap stories and one of the lines that would come up was....

Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.

They should get another line of employment

 

[Mahonay]

Thanks mods for coming in and taking care of that. The racist train was full steam ahead. That was, something alright.

Back on topic:
I feel so bad for this kid's family

 

[PopeReal]

Goddamn, racists think they can just post random shit they pull out of their ass and get away with it. They probably think they can say the same things to friends, family, and coworkers both in person and in social media.

I wonder what gave them that idea......

 

[theignoramus]

Thank you. As a police officer, (or former), it's good to see you guys weigh in on threads like this as it sheds some light as to what goes on behind the scenes. If you don't mind me asking, how do you feel about all of the news surrounding these killings by cops?

And my story served two purposes, (or at least I hope it did). The first was to show that police officers do target certain people, and the second to show that cops aren't inherently racist. We weren't at the scene so as to why people on the internet jump to conclusions constantly baffles me. (Don't get me wrong, I'm SURE some incidents were due to racism.) I also understand that it's getting pulled over vs a minority with a guns, but I still feel racism isn't the biggest reason as to why men of color continuously get shot. I almost feel as if it's the tension surrounding police brutality that's causing them to shoot first, ask second. Almost as if an overwhelming sense of paranoia swarms over officers whenever they're in uniform.

If a trend of Black people being shot or beat up by cops goes back over a hundred years, I think I'll defer to the obvious conclusion of racism, especially when the entire damn background and origin of US policing is rooted in extreme anti-Black policies.

I know my history and cops, as a collective, were on the wrong side of social justice and equality every step of the fucking way all through the last century and their brutality and lack of fair play was the main reason behind just about all of the African American riots of the last 50 years.

 

[F0rneus]

Thanks mods for coming in and taking care of that. The racist train was full steam ahead. That was, something alright.

This might be the only good part about these horrible tragedies...Some people can't help but expose themselves. And sadly it feels like every thread about senseless killings by cops, ends up like this. A great job by the mods today. Thank you.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

HEY. don't call him a victim! All the evidence isn't out yet. He could be a thief for all we know. He is a minority so odds are he's a criminal. RIP to all the cops who fell in the line of duty.

Spoiler

////s

He could have walked into that building.

'hypothetical walking while black'

 

[holygeesus]

Is it a fair comparison though if you can assume most of the time criminals won't have guns in much of the rest of the world? The places that do have rampant gun ownership seem to also have pretty terrible law enforcement.

I can only speak from a UK perspective, but I'd argue that you could point out that neither the police (in general) OR the criminals have guns, and the end result is almost zero gun deaths in the country. You can see therefore what the problem in America might be?

Plenty of criminals have knives over here, yet the police still manage to disable and arrest without dying. Deescalation is emphasised in training though, unlike in the USA where the first rule is 'make it home alive'.

 

[toastyToast]

He could have walked into that building.

'hypothetical walking while black'

Walking while black is already a capital offense