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i got flamed recently for wishing h-d could crank out a good american sportbike with a belt drive, like the buells. man, you'd think i'd shat on the american flag! :-(

i wouldn't mind a ulysses, but given the regular issues with that bike, it needs a 2nd or 3rd gen to really work out the kinks. GREAT design, though!
 
god, i want some SUN and dry roads! i ride in the rain/wind/fog regardless -- just did 200 miles in a downpour -- but i really want to crank it and HOON. FUCK WINTER
 

Makki

Member
If any of you are interested in getting an external mic setup to place inside your helmet for your GoPro videos I made a video review/test of one that some people were recommending on different forums.
I had to get one set up since all my camera was capturing with the on-board mic was wind noise at anything above 15 mph. With a little clip for holiday lights from target I was able to stick it right above the chin skirt and it seems to sound pretty good!

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See video link below:

Sony ECM-CS3 Mic Review

I'm testing it on my way to work tomorrow unless it rains.
 

Rattles

Member
If one of you ever thinks 'maybe I should get a Buell'... do it :p. It truly is the best kept secret in motorcycling.
Well I'm after a Buell for my next bike but I really can't make up my mind between a X1 Xb or the last of them an 1125r. Im looking at doing abit of commuting "bout 200k" what do you recommend?
 
i got flamed recently for wishing h-d could crank out a good american sportbike with a belt drive, like the buells. man, you'd think i'd shat on the american flag! :-(

I liked the old Buell designs in the day.

Commuted to work this morning on the Harley, 23 miles and through London. Not too bad - it's actually reasonably narrow and the low height helps, as does the loud exhaust to part the cars.

Shame about the shit weather, my baby needs a wash.
 

Dougald

Member
That HD is looking nice. I am a fan of the powder-coated black look, much easier to keep clean and if you're riding it in the UK, that's almost certainly a good thing

Alloy wheels too, not as classic as the spokes, but after going through broken spokes on the Bonneville I don't think I'd get anything other than mag wheels again unless I had no choice. It looks great!
 
Well I'm after a Buell for my next bike but I really can't make up my mind between a X1 Xb or the last of them an 1125r. Im looking at doing abit of commuting "bout 200k" what do you recommend?


Hmmm, well. Those bikes represent three different generations of Buell. The first one (the X1) being the last evolution of the tube frame Buells. After that you got the XBs (with both fuel and oil in an aluminum frame and the ZTL front brake setup). And finally there was the 1125r, that's when Buell switched over from the Sportster engine to a Rotax Helicon Engine. While that did bring a pretty massive increase in power. You could argue those bikes also lost what made a Buell so special. Haven't ridden one of the Rotax versions yet, so I couldn't say for sure how different the experience is, but a lot of my enjoyment comes from the Harley-Davidson engine. I don't think I would want to trade that for more power.

One upside to Buell's going under a couple of years ago is that those 1125r and 1125cr bikes dropped in price (like 'off a cliff' quick). It should still be possible to pick up a very low mileage bike for next to nothing. I did hear the stators on those bikes tend to break (simple to fix though). So either find a bike where that has failed and use it as a reason to drive the price even further down. Or make sure you find one where that has already been fixed and save yourself the trouble.

As for the tube frame or XB type Buells... there's arguments for both, as always. Personally I love the look of the tube frame bikes even more than the XBs, but when it comes down to it, they're all different shades of awesome. If I was even less responsible than I already am, there would an XB12 Firebolt next to the other Buells in my parking spot right now.

Theoretically, the XBs should be a little more reliable than the tube frame versions. But they had some of their own problems. Not as significant as the tube frame versions. The XBs have better cylinders and gear boxes for instance, but finding a bike where that ZTL front brake isn't bent out of shape would be a hell of a feat. Whatever you end up getting though, it doesn't really matter as long as you find one that belonged to someone who knew what he was doing (or his mechanic had a clue). If you're not mechanically inclined yourself, I would not buy a Buell that comes without a well documented service history. Maybe you've been reading along in this thread, but my dad and I have dealt with some shit to get my bikes in good order again. Still, once they are in good order, it's not too difficult to keep them there and I think they really can be reliable.

Some things to look out for (with Sportster Buells):

- leakage on the lower cylinder gasket: if there's oil leaking from the lower cylinder gasket, that could indicate hard use when the engine was cold. Causing damage to the cylinders, which is often evidenced by gasket trouble in that area

- leakage from the base of the pushrod tube cover: while this isn't an indication of any serious trouble. It does mean opening up the rocker box covers so that you can remove the pushrod tube covers to replace the seals (half a days work)

- excessive wear on the oil pump drive gear: this is not something you can confirm visually unless you remove the oil pump and shine a flashlight in the area that houses the cam-train. The oil pump drive gear is located on the crankshaft and powers the oil pump. Due to the design of the engine that particular gear is under differing sorts of stress which caused the original steel gear to shatter after say 30.000 kilometers. They were then replaced by a flexible bronze version of the drive gear (an original Buell replacement part). That solved the problem. Ask the owner if he can prove the gear is in there. Factor in the cost otherwise and talk it off the asking price of the bike.

- Cracks in the front engine mount (located under the steering head).Not very common, but it can happen.

- Worn isolaters (tube frame buell), those big rubber things near and slightly above the rear footpegs). Probably the case if the bike feels unstable in corners or at higher speeds. Though unstable in corners could also be a number of other things that apply to all bikes (bent frame, low tire pressure, bad suspension setup, whatever).

If you're in the United States (lucky you), you could look for either an S2 Thunderbolt or an S1 Lightning. In my opinion they are the best looking bikes Buell has ever made. There are also very few of them (about 1500 S2s and 4000 S1s). Given how much of them were total-ed or gutted (to make awful chopper monstrosities) the number of unmolested bikes is dwindling. It may very well end up a sought after collector's item. This is an S2 Thunderbolt. Beautiful, no?

Having said all that... if commuting is what you're going to be doing. Maybe the Ulysses? My guy in IJsselstein (here in the Netherlands), the local Buell specialist (sort of world famous actually: https://www.facebook.com/TwinMotorcyclesNL) always goes on about how he thinks the Ulysses is the best riding Buell ever made. The geometry certainly seems tailored for touring.

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That's for damn sure.

However, I would recommend that you at least try one of the 'old' Harley Davidson powered bikes. See how that engine makes you feel.
 
Just topped up my tyre pressure this morning and what a massive difference it made. The tyre was suppose to be 2.5bar and it was 2.2bar. I think its always good to regularly check the tyre pressure as it improved the ride and handling. It probably helps with tyre wear too
 

Dougald

Member
Especially this time of year (for those of us in the Northern Hemisphere). There have been quite a few motorcycle accidents near me recently due to the ice and high winds. If you have to go out in the weather, make sure your machine is up to it

I can't wait until the season starts again and I can actually lean into corners rather than hold up traffic
 
Especially this time of year (for those of us in the Northern Hemisphere). There have been quite a few motorcycle accidents near me recently due to the ice and high winds. If you have to go out in the weather, make sure your machine is up to it

I can't wait until the season starts again and I can actually lean into corners rather than hold up traffic

I will second that. At least its getting light earlier in the mornings
 
It's mostly rain & wind down my way (London/Kent), and I'm very glad I was on a heavier bike on my commute yesterday with the wind. Luckily not much ice around.

Looking forward to the spring.
 
Just topped up my tyre pressure this morning and what a massive difference it made.

Yup, really is night and day.

Was in rush to move the X1 on Friday before it started pouring down, rode it home with 1.7 in the tires. It had been sitting for a year after all. No good at all though.
 
If you want a Ulysses (which you should, wonderful fucking bike), wait for the EBR 1190AX. I've heard only good things. Mr. EB used to be my pop-in-law so I saw and heard plenty of things, but unfortunately, the things I heard about the AX were limited.


No shit? Small world...
 
No shit? Small world...
Spent many weekends at his place, watching AMA/MotoGP races and hiking, hearing crazy ass stories of Harley and Buell. I knew the writer of the 25 years of Buell history book, but I sorta want to write a book about everything I saw. Haha, I think it'd be a crazy ass book.
 
Spent many weekends at his place, watching AMA/MotoGP races and hiking, hearing crazy ass stories of Harley and Buell. I knew the writer of the 25 years of Buell history book, but I sorta want to write a book about everything I saw. Haha, I think it'd be a crazy ass book.

I sincerely hope you do. Hell, I'd be first in line to pay good money for it :p.

Should you ever get the chance to talk to him again, let him know I'm having the time of my life on those crazy bikes of his. Haha. Really, he made something very special and I thank him for it.
 
My sister came to town, and was interested in looking at some BMW bikes. She lives in upstate new york, and wanted something akin to a dual sport/adventure bike, to cruise around with, and replace her little 250cc learner bike.

I have to say, they are pretty nice looking rides. My first bike was a GS500F, and if I was still in the market, i'd be thinking about one myself. Been out of the market for a while though.

On a related note, I did discover the Honda Grom recently as well. Holy crap it's tiny, but looks oh so fun. Makes me think of it as a Motor scooter for folks who don't want to be caught dead on a motor scooter. If I didn't have to rely on highways so much in this town, i'd seriously consider getting one.
 
My sister came to town, and was interested in looking at some BMW bikes. She lives in upstate new york, and wanted something akin to a dual sport/adventure bike, to cruise around with, and replace her little 250cc learner bike.

I have to say, they are pretty nice looking rides. My first bike was a GS500F, and if I was still in the market, i'd be thinking about one myself. Been out of the market for a while though.

On a related note, I did discover the Honda Grom recently as well. Holy crap it's tiny, but looks oh so fun. Makes me think of it as a Motor scooter for folks who don't want to be caught dead on a motor scooter. If I didn't have to rely on highways so much in this town, i'd seriously consider getting one.

Yes that GROM is a nice bit of kit for the price. It would be perfect for me to travel to work and back but man it would be hard to not have a nice bike engine bike
 

Dougald

Member
I'm not sure what that was I just watched!

Unfortunately the Dakar started just as I cut my cable, so I no longer get British Eurosport who show it here.. used to love watching the bikes and trucks. I'll have to follow as best I can on their site
 
Had to laugh at that vid... mad I tell you. Thanks for sharing. I am following the Dakar via the weekly MCN newspaper as I dont have the channel.
 

Flo_Evans

Member
Had to gif this part:

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more trouble than it was worth lol but man. I want to ride there so bad. One of my lifetime goals is to race in the Dakar... sadly by the time I have enough money my body will be worthless lol. Baja 1000 is probably a more realistic goal.
 
Had to gif this part:

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more trouble than it was worth lol but man. I want to ride there so bad. One of my lifetime goals is to race in the Dakar... sadly by the time I have enough money my body will be worthless lol. Baja 1000 is probably a more realistic goal.

Friggen awesome.
 

Dougald

Member
Bah, I'll never own a KTM 1190 adventure without serious modification.. the perils of being 5 ft 7.... at least I can ride little sportbikes
 

Dougald

Member
Great video, that EBR really is a thing of beauty. Looks much better in motion than in the publicity photos

Also, fuel in the frame?? Wha-
 
Bah, I'll never own a KTM 1190 adventure without serious modification.. the perils of being 5 ft 7.... at least I can ride little sportbikes
Same height as me. That's something I like about the BMWs is the huge seat height adjustability with factory options. You can get the F1200GS (not adventure) as low as 790mm up to 880mm.
 

Dougald

Member
Same height as me. That's something I like about the BMWs is the huge seat height adjustability with factory options. You can get the F1200GS (not adventure) as low as 790mm up to 880mm.


With the lowest standard seat height on the 1200GS I could just about get by, I expect I'd be fine with the lower seat
 
Great video, that EBR really is a thing of beauty. Looks much better in motion than in the publicity photos

Wasn't really feeling it either in any of the photos. But yeah, in this video it looks quite nice.


Slapped a viking horn on the ninja (Damoto GP EX)

Good man, it looks pretty serious :p.

This channel is hilarious. Immediately subscribed after watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1i9Ww27lxU

Haha another great one, yeah. Especially that shot of the agenda 'fun if girlfriend doesn't want to go to ikea again'.

Also that Zero SR electric bike looks very promising. Maybe our future without internal combustion engines won't be so boring after all.

What really surpised me is that apparently it's able to do half a million fucking miles before the battery is at 80% of its original capacity.

And all you're changing in that time is tires, some bearings and a brake pad every now and then...

and not taking the whole engine apart every 15 / 20k kilometers :p
 
That bike seems to stand up well to the hard use you're putting it through. Do you have to replace a lot in the way of bearings / chain, that type of shit, Flo?
 

Flo_Evans

Member
That bike seems to stand up well to the hard use you're putting it through. Do you have to replace a lot in the way of bearings / chain, that type of shit, Flo?

Seems to hold up well if you maintain it. I'm on my 2nd chain in 12k miles and it is about done so more than a road bike for sure. I try and give it a good wash and lube after ever hard weekend but all that mud and shit accelerates the wear on parts.

Great weekend, this was the worst patch of ice I hit so I was happy. Deep freezing cold water and downed trees turned me around a few times but it was great. :)

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Still torn on my next bike. I really love this size thumper for versitility but I am always jealous of the big GSs and their cargo at the campsite/running the highway.

My 3 year old is starting to get really jealous and wanting to go riding/camping so I might have to trailer the bike(s) soon so that would solve the highway and luggage, heck might even get a smaller dirt bike for more technical trails if I didn't have to ride it down to the woods.
 

Dougald

Member
I love the big GS' but I always feel like they're better for riding *to* the woods than riding *around* the woods

...which suits me fine as I'm about as incompetent off-road as you can get. At least until I finally pay the few hundred quid for a BMW skills weekend
 

Dougald

Member
If I were to get a Harley, that's what I'd get... After selling the Bonneville I'm not sure I'm ready to go back to all that chromework though. It's very rewarding, but a pain in the arse!

I know a chap with a VTX that gets used all-day, every day, all-weathers. He just gave up cleaning it, all the chrome is behind several inches of grime at this point. Actually looks quite badass, but I'm sure the finish is ruined forever.
 
Washed my baby Saturday morning...

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Good job on that cleaning.. looks awesome. If the weather was a bit more forgiving I would also look at something a bit more layed back.

I have my mind set on the new BMW r1200r and the R nine T as the next bikes. But only time will tell. I am enjoying my bike so much every time I swing my leg over it
 

Dougald

Member
The problem I have is I spend more time thinking about what to get when I sell my current ride than enjoying what I'm riding

Too many bikes, not enough money/garage space!
 

Flo_Evans

Member
The problem I have is I spend more time thinking about what to get when I sell my current ride than enjoying what I'm riding

Too many bikes, not enough money/garage space!

hear hear. I often get into deep philosophical discussions with my riding buddies about bikes and what the absolute best bike is for a certain terrain and the end result is pretty much "IDK just ride the damn thing"

I often pine for more power, better suspension and more comfort when the truth is I am probably barley scratching the surface of what my bike can actually do :)

I should probably work out more, sore as fuck from a short ride around in the woods. Better physical conditioning and losing some excess rider weight would probably make me faster than a few more HP or fancy shocks :p
 
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