Count Dookkake
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Well, there is The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer, written by Lynch's daughter. Interesting read.
20 Years LttP: Twin Peaks
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Red Blaster
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Zoso said:
lolololol
-York is almost exactly the same as Dale Cooper, right down to his love for coffee and his knack for strange monologues and trust in intuitions. He even uses turns of phrase that are very reminiscent of Cooper ("clear as a crisp spring morning", etc etc). The only thing that really makes him stand out are the movie references.
-Thomas = Andy. Dopey sheriff deputies who cry at crime scenes.
Thomas' cross-dressing could also be seen as a nod to Dennis/Denise
-Pot Lady = Log Lady
-Anna Graham = Laura Palmer. Most beautiful girls in town who turn out to be involved in some heavy shit.
-A&G Diner = R&R Diner
They even had to change the dwarf twins to children, and George looked way more like Harry in the original trailer. SWERY must think we're all idiots.
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Smision said:
More FWWM ending stuff:
It's established that time works in weird ways in the black lodge. In the real world timeline Laura died and entered the black lodge before Cooper ever came to Twin Peaks but because of how time works in the black lodge Cooper was already in when Laura got there. To complicate things further, Laura seems to have already been in the black lodge before Cooper got there. Cooper sees Laura in the black lodge before he ever goes there himself. So its not a retcon, everything that happened in the show did happen its just that due to the nature of the black lodge its not linear. Thats just how I take it anyway. Guess its open to interpretation. Would love to hear others thoughts.
Seraphinianus
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Red Blaster said:
It takes even more details:
--tiny items shoved under fingernails of victims
--the victims were positioned in similar ways with similar wounds
--both crime scenes had evidence of a mysterious third person
--both have a
black lodge and similar supernatural bents to their stories
Seraphinianus
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DKehoe said:
It's kinda weird how much that makes sense. this show is so strange...David Lynch rules.
BaronLundi
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Zoso said:
That's indeed strange since, amongst a metric ton of more or less subtle references, there is an actual picture of the Great Northern Hotel just above York's bed...
The famous Laura Palmer picture can also be found in Anna's room.BaronLundi said:
And many more small touches. (plus those below!)
BaronLundi
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Havok said:
Was about to edit my post for greater visual aid !
Source : http://shshatteredmemories.com/greenvale/easter-eggs
Red Blaster
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Even more similarities listed here:
http://planetredwood.webs.com/tpvsdp.htm
Lynch could almost sue for plagiarism, heh
Edit: fffffuck spoilers, I should hurry up and finish Twin Peaks...gotta hold my nose through stupid James' motorcycle adventure.
http://planetredwood.webs.com/tpvsdp.htm
Lynch could almost sue for plagiarism, heh
Edit: fffffuck spoilers, I should hurry up and finish Twin Peaks...gotta hold my nose through stupid James' motorcycle adventure.
RobotNinjaHornets
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Awesome Endurance Run reference on that site:Red Blaster said:
DodgyGeezerFella
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This Deadly Premonitions game keeps coming up all over GAF, im every so slightly interested, and now i see this and think, FUCK i must buy. I cant tell if people are saying its actually a good game or a sack of shit so bad its good :S
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Ogs said:
Even if it does rip-off a ton of shit from Twin Peaks, it's definitely a compelling story and I enjoyed my time with the game. Do yourself a favor and play it on easy; the shooting mechanics are especially bad, as in, dated by 2003 standards bad.
BaronLundi
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Ogs said:
The gameplay is arguably bad (I thought it just wasn't good not downright terrible).
Story, characters and atmosphere are truly awesome.
Overall, I think it's a really great game.
Eaten By A Grue said:
Season 3 almost happened in the form of a graphic novel. Well, not really - Lynch didn't give his blessing (and rightly so in my opinion).
http://twinpeaksarchive.blogspot.com/2007/07/exclusive-matt-haley-interview.html
This is a quote (from the interview) from Matt Haley who was going to be the artist, talking about what he and Robert Engels (Twin Peaks story editor and producer) discussed.
I guarantee that none of the above would have happened if they had a third season/movie sequels. Mike and Bob being from a planet made of creamed corn? Really?
I have no idea where it would've went, but if there had to be more Twin Peaks I would want:
-- it to delve deeper, first and foremost, into the mystery of what happened to
Agent Chester "Chet" Desmond and Agent Philip Jeffries. This would then lead to the mystery of "Judy" who was apparently going to be Josie Packard's sister (but she would probably be better as a new character) Chet or Jeffries would re-appear in Twin Peaks while Coop is still in the Black Lodge.
--The Black Lodge would have to have new elements introduced no doubt, but with little exposition so it stays as mind-warping and as mysterious as Lynch wants it to be. Doppelganger/possessed Coop would continue to act strange and the threat that Bob could kill again would arise again. Good Coop would continue to confront abstractions and reflections of his self and his past in the Lodge while trying to find a way to escape/save Laura. If focus was to be set on the Black Lodge it would mean that the story could jump around in time which could be cool, Coop could eventually save Laura. An obscure relationship could be formed between the two.
--Gordon Cole and Albert Rosenfield would return to Twin Peaks to follow up on the blue rose case and continue the search for Windom Earle.
--Ben Horne and Audrey would both survive. Audrey could see the old woman with her grandson, who would give her some sort of purpose. Either Audrey or Annie would come across the ring. Annie's words "I saw the face of the man who killed me" could be a prophecy. She could end up wrapped in plastic.
--Leo would die from that spider trap.
--Hank Jennings would go to prison.
--Shit would get real with Major Briggs. He'd eventually help Cole, Hawk and Harry realize that the good Coop is in the Lodge, and the mystery of Brigg's adventures in the White Lodge would slowly be unravelled.
--Sarah Palmer would continue to be freaky / see visions of Laura.
--What happened to the Log Lady's husband could be revealed.
--The ex-sherriff from Deer Meadow or someone would come to Twin Peaks to investigate the death of the Deputy that Bobby shot in Fire Walk With Me. Bobby and Mike could go to the bar where they'd see the bearded woodsman dude that's was at the freaky meeting from fwwm, or some other Black Lodge inhabitant. Bobby would then run into said sherriff dude looking for him.
-- Nadine would stab her other eye out. Ed and Norma would eventually kill themselves together. That love triangle was tiring.
--James and Donna could run into something at Hap's diner in Deer Meadow, perhaps something tied to the lodge/the murder of Teresa Banks. Alternatively they could go die in a fire.
-- Andy and Lucy would have the baby and live happily. Andy would feed it creamed corn.
--The Black Lodge would have to have new elements introduced no doubt, but with little exposition so it stays as mind-warping and as mysterious as Lynch wants it to be. Doppelganger/possessed Coop would continue to act strange and the threat that Bob could kill again would arise again. Good Coop would continue to confront abstractions and reflections of his self and his past in the Lodge while trying to find a way to escape/save Laura. If focus was to be set on the Black Lodge it would mean that the story could jump around in time which could be cool, Coop could eventually save Laura. An obscure relationship could be formed between the two.
--Gordon Cole and Albert Rosenfield would return to Twin Peaks to follow up on the blue rose case and continue the search for Windom Earle.
--Ben Horne and Audrey would both survive. Audrey could see the old woman with her grandson, who would give her some sort of purpose. Either Audrey or Annie would come across the ring. Annie's words "I saw the face of the man who killed me" could be a prophecy. She could end up wrapped in plastic.
--Leo would die from that spider trap.
--Hank Jennings would go to prison.
--Shit would get real with Major Briggs. He'd eventually help Cole, Hawk and Harry realize that the good Coop is in the Lodge, and the mystery of Brigg's adventures in the White Lodge would slowly be unravelled.
--Sarah Palmer would continue to be freaky / see visions of Laura.
--What happened to the Log Lady's husband could be revealed.
--The ex-sherriff from Deer Meadow or someone would come to Twin Peaks to investigate the death of the Deputy that Bobby shot in Fire Walk With Me. Bobby and Mike could go to the bar where they'd see the bearded woodsman dude that's was at the freaky meeting from fwwm, or some other Black Lodge inhabitant. Bobby would then run into said sherriff dude looking for him.
-- Nadine would stab her other eye out. Ed and Norma would eventually kill themselves together. That love triangle was tiring.
--James and Donna could run into something at Hap's diner in Deer Meadow, perhaps something tied to the lodge/the murder of Teresa Banks. Alternatively they could go die in a fire.
-- Andy and Lucy would have the baby and live happily. Andy would feed it creamed corn.
I'm all out just now, but seriously where could Twin Peaks have went? I'm interested to hear other peoples thoughts and ideas. Apologies for the huge amounts of spoiler blackness.
RadioHeadAche
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Ogs said:
I genuinely love it. I had to spend $55 to import the Asian PS3 version with very little English outside of spoken dialogue, and it was worth it. It's a delightful and unusual game.
Holy shit!
I knew it was on Netflix now, but my GOD, it's in HD and it looks fantastic.
Super impressed, and now I want a Blu Ray gold box.
The wife started watching with me when i was around the killer reveal in season 2, but hasn't seen the first season. It's fun to watch again.
I knew it was on Netflix now, but my GOD, it's in HD and it looks fantastic.
Super impressed, and now I want a Blu Ray gold box.
The wife started watching with me when i was around the killer reveal in season 2, but hasn't seen the first season. It's fun to watch again.
VitaminApple
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This thread has convinced me to buy Alan Wake
ElectricBlue187
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I've been watching this on Netflix. It's super cheesy and the characters are terrible and some of the acting is really bad and I'm not too invested with the story but there's just something that compels me to keep watching. I'm not sure what it is. Style I guess.
I hated Alan Wake. Watching this makes me hate it even more for all of the unoriginality
I hated Alan Wake. Watching this makes me hate it even more for all of the unoriginality
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ElectricBlue187 said:
wat
ElectricBlue187
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What I meant is I don't like the characters. They are all awful people except for the sheriff and the FBI agentRed Blaster said:
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ZephyrFate
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I even like James Hurley. He's adorable in that sort of kicked-puppy-dog kinda way.
TheLegendary
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I have to agree in a way that almost all characters can be seen as awful. Pretty much everyone either cheats on their spouses or are otherwise involved in generally shady/creepy business or personal relationships. Doesn't mean they're not sympathetic or "good" characters though.
Your Excellency
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This was a good show for season one, but honest to god, I watched the first 4 or so episodes of season two and had no idea what was going on. Turned to shit.
Started rewatching this show because of this thread. I just got to the episode where James, Donna, and Maddie recorded a song. Totally blocked it from memory, so bad, but so good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFUGZpKXWiI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFUGZpKXWiI
Night_Trekker
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Coop said:
This scene is painful.
Night_Trekker
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Havok said:
I generally agree with you, though I actually really like Donna and James in the first few episodes. They're the most "normal" people in the TP universe, and it's hard not to want them to be happy together. But as "normal" people in a town full of strange characters, they're also really boring, and every attempt to give them interesting storylines ended in failure. Focusing on them was not a good idea.
Discotheque
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big ander said:
lmao yeah that scene was so bad.
Still despite how much the second season dragged this series will still be one of my favorites. And I think the ending was a big F U to the studio since
I guess it was saying if they gave Dale another season or two to prepare he would have came out of the Black Lodge unscathed
Seraphinianus
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luckily, I was so high watching that episode that I just plain don't even remember seeing that scene. I was waiting for it because (mega spoilers)
David Lynch is really all about moral quandaries, even at the expense of good acting or believable characters. A lot of times the writing is very quirky, but just for the purpose of making someone seem extra good or extra evil, though everybody in his movies manages to be somewhat sympathetic, villains included. He plays off of various forms of Americana in everything. So that's why you have Cooper awkwardly appreciating cherry pie and how he never wavers in his belief that Twin Peaks is a good place at heart--it shows Cooper's "purity" but also reminds you that despite how fucked up it is, Twin Peaks is supposed any old country town with good morals. He sets up a very literal battle between good and evil with the Laura Palmer case.
In a way (overall series spoilers),
yeah...
I knew Maddy was gonna get killed, but I didn't know when. So I kept thinking I was coming up on the episode with the song instead, but then she got killed lol.
TheLegendary said:
David Lynch is really all about moral quandaries, even at the expense of good acting or believable characters. A lot of times the writing is very quirky, but just for the purpose of making someone seem extra good or extra evil, though everybody in his movies manages to be somewhat sympathetic, villains included. He plays off of various forms of Americana in everything. So that's why you have Cooper awkwardly appreciating cherry pie and how he never wavers in his belief that Twin Peaks is a good place at heart--it shows Cooper's "purity" but also reminds you that despite how fucked up it is, Twin Peaks is supposed any old country town with good morals. He sets up a very literal battle between good and evil with the Laura Palmer case.
In a way (overall series spoilers),
evil is portrayed more as an external virus that infects people, in the form of Bob coming from the Black Lodge. Some people get it very bad- Leo, Windom Earle, Leland. Some people don't take it as far--bobby and mike. Some people do bad things but are prominently good people-- everybody else because everybody's cheating or going about trying to do good but end up meddling too much like James, Donna, Maddy, Audrey. So the characters flip back and forth a lot and the ones who are mostly good are portrayed more as victims of circumstance. Ed and whats-her-name can't be together even though they seem like they should. Just like Bobby and the other diner girl have Leo between them.
yeah...
Red Blaster
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Coop said:
Luckily this part is immediately followed by one of the creepiest and most memorable moments of the series.
ILOVEASIANS
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Coop said:
I'm already trying to block that scene from my mind.
NinajHeartless
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Just wanted to pop in and say I am thankful this thread exists
<3 TP
<3 TP
Nassimoluc
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That video makes my eyes water every time :').
RadioHeadAche
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It's over...and somehow I feel empty. I still have the movie, but I know it won't satisfy every bit of my remaining curiosity.
Season three...it's painful to know it will never be. I can't imagine what it must have been like for people who watched it when the finale aired.
Season three...it's painful to know it will never be. I can't imagine what it must have been like for people who watched it when the finale aired.
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