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2005 IIHF World Junior Hockey Championship Thread
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Man, this goaltending display is something else! :lol
Shit I'm sick of promos for Medium, on CTV.
Omg, the Americans are near frozen. Just scared now, their last PK the US barely moved in their shallow box, if the Belarussians had a bit more skill on the passes they'd have another 2 goals this period guaranteed.
Belarus is just teeing it up, and Montoya is just flailing around and the whole US team seems tentative and jittery. If the US played Canada like this in a semifinal it'd be 7-1 by now.
Shit I'm sick of promos for Medium, on CTV.
Omg, the Americans are near frozen. Just scared now, their last PK the US barely moved in their shallow box, if the Belarussians had a bit more skill on the passes they'd have another 2 goals this period guaranteed.
Belarus is just teeing it up, and Montoya is just flailing around and the whole US team seems tentative and jittery. If the US played Canada like this in a semifinal it'd be 7-1 by now.
Mike Works
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Pierre Macquire emoticon:
Yeah, just like Fleury. He's been shaky the whole way and very inconsistent; not just game to game but period to period. Last year the whole time I kept hoping Fleury would snap out of it when it mattered but that just doesn't happen much.
I dunno, I find it kinda fun.
But this game is taking away from one massive story today - the hilarious comeback by Finland against Team Buckle. :lol What is it about Sweden vs Finland that has them coming back against each other so oftern in international play? No lead is safe when they play.
It is not fun watching the Americans get embarrassed if Canada is not part of it.
I dunno, I find it kinda fun.
But this game is taking away from one massive story today - the hilarious comeback by Finland against Team Buckle. :lol What is it about Sweden vs Finland that has them coming back against each other so oftern in international play? No lead is safe when they play.
Whoa, the radio feed from USA Hockey is pretty depressing.
Petty? You bet! Last year sucked! :lol
EDIT: having an American wife does indeed rock sometimes. "What is up with your goalie! Defending champs my ass!" "Hey, I am not affiliated with my countries hockey, that shit has nothing to do with Texas."
Petty? You bet! Last year sucked! :lolEDIT: having an American wife does indeed rock sometimes. "What is up with your goalie! Defending champs my ass!" "Hey, I am not affiliated with my countries hockey, that shit has nothing to do with Texas."
Holy shit I was reading this thread thinking "I wonder if the game is over by now". It's 5-1 and still in the second period. :lol
I don't mind McGuire getting all masturbatory over Crosby. I just dislike him for his commentary in general. Gah, he's awful.Mike Works said:Pierre Macquire emoticon:
Ronald_mcd
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Ahh I love this. My dad is American and I just love watching them get beat :lol He hates montoya
McGuire is annoying. He's all about crosby and "vision"
McGuire is annoying. He's all about crosby and "vision"
I'm glad the US scored late there, the third period will be a doozy now but down by 4 I think Team USA would have folded in the third.
I may not cheer for them, but I do give the US props for that awesome game against the Russians. Not only for the game, but for the best "scoreboard, bitch" pic of the tourney when Dan Fritsche scored the winner.
I love that shit.
I may not cheer for them, but I do give the US props for that awesome game against the Russians. Not only for the game, but for the best "scoreboard, bitch" pic of the tourney when Dan Fritsche scored the winner.
I love that shit.
I'm in the minority, I love McGuire and like Miller just fine. Still miss Paul Romaniuk though.
For me McGuire's annoying habits (talks very low sometimes for no reason, dumb phrasing) is more than balanced out by the fact that he's one of the few colour commentators who consistently tells me neat technical things that I missed or didn't know.
For me McGuire's annoying habits (talks very low sometimes for no reason, dumb phrasing) is more than balanced out by the fact that he's one of the few colour commentators who consistently tells me neat technical things that I missed or didn't know.
Mike Works
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They're both terrible. Miller sounds like he's talking out of his throat and don't even get me started with how fucking terrible Macquire is. Half the time his voice level sounds like he's talking to himself after getting insulted by a bully.
calder said:
Those two nations are not very good friends, to say the least. Sweden pretty much hates Finland for reasons I'm forgetting. Finland hates Russia more since they tried to invade 'em a half dozen times or so, but they've got plenty of dislike left over for the Swedes. As a result, those two teams would rather die then just give up an easy loss to one another.
As for the commentators, I like McGuire a lot more on the radio then I do on the TV...don't ask me why. Don't think much of him as a colour analysist though, he talks too much. I like Miller a lot, though he's obviously not in the same class as say, Jim Hughson. As for Romaniuk, he's got the delightful job of calling Raptors games on the radio.
Ronald_mcd
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Uhh what an ugly goal. This is where the US makes the comeback.
Nightbreeze
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That was a great game. I liked how the announceres just couldnt believe what they were seeing.
Project Midway
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no no no.... we dont actually *hate* each other. Its just a typical love/hate relationship. Actually there's no real hate at all between Finns and Swedes, IMO. Just fierce competition. =) Maybe bit similar to Canada/Usa relationship?Society said:
I think we finns "hate" swedish because they ruled our country for few hundred years back in ~1600-1800. And even today swedish is the second official language in Finland and its a mandatory language in grade-school and most finnish kids hate it. :lol
But its true that we hate losing to Sweden the most. In any sport not just hockey.There might be some actual hate against Russia but not really that much anymore. Russia invaded Finland back 19th century (took us from Sweden, lol) and of course there's the second world war...when they tried to get us back but failed. We finns just love to beat the Big Bear. =)
Add another one.Mainline said:
Fun game to watch. It was really sad watching some of the Belarus players pass the puck. I swear, their hands must have been shaking ... "Holy shit, we're up 5-3 against the US and we have a 2 man advantage? Uhhh .... what the hell do we do?!" Kind of sad when the team you're playing against has its confidence shaken by beating you.
As for McGuire ... the guy has some interesting stuff to say, but he talks as if the people listening are a team at a hockey practice. He just reminds me too much of every coach I've ever had yell at me.
Oh, and any word on Richards playing today?
Fuck, it's already on?? blah
-edit- Brent Sutter is suuuuuuch a knob. He's always trying to look hard. Someone ought to tell him that you can be a respected and demanding coach, and still look content. They just won 8-1 over Finland and he's glaring around, trying to look unsatisfied. No one's asking the guy to smile, but really now.
-edit- Brent Sutter is suuuuuuch a knob. He's always trying to look hard. Someone ought to tell him that you can be a respected and demanding coach, and still look content. They just won 8-1 over Finland and he's glaring around, trying to look unsatisfied. No one's asking the guy to smile, but really now.
Mike Works
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Man, that was the best third period of hockey I've seen in a long time. Fucking hilarious.
That US game was awesome, I've never seen so many chances to score missed in one period before. Some kind of high powered gypsy curses on the shooters right up to the empty net goal, I kept laughing at how long the US net was empty and the Czechs just couldn't even come close to *trying* get the empty netter. :lol
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First off, I feel I have to clarify something.
Living in Halifax, I soon expect to see "Home of Sydney Crosby" on every single sign in this city. You see, for about two years we've been hearing of the next Wayne Gretzky...and now I'm about to murder someone.
Our local paper has an issue with doing this with local stars. Like, for instance, Canadian Idol runner-up Gary Beals. The guy can't sing, makes the worst commercials in history, and still gets plastered over the paper whenever he's in the news JUST because he's from Halifax.
As with Beals, Crosby has now become a figurehead of hatred. It is now that the idiocy of Pierre McGuire (Last night in the american game, I believe he actually said that something was "lubricated", and my god I was ashamed to know he is employed in this country) that spreads this to the rest of the nation, but we in Halifax know well of his ovversaturation.
I was watching the game last night with a bunch of people...and we all have some form of rational Crosby hate. I'm tired of hearing about him, and was that way awhile ago. Another was tired of oversaturation in this tournament. Another played against him in Minor Hockey and just kind of dislikes him. Another is secretly jealous of his talent.
Great Hockey player...but shut the fuck up about him, every single person who has ever spoken his name. Including myself.
US/Czech game was damn entertaining. An amazing performance from the Czech back-up, and an intense third period that saw the Americans actually play some hockey, and some impressive hockey at that.
The Canada game? Ugh. I hate blowouts, because any emotional investment is gone after 4 goals.
Living in Halifax, I soon expect to see "Home of Sydney Crosby" on every single sign in this city. You see, for about two years we've been hearing of the next Wayne Gretzky...and now I'm about to murder someone.
Our local paper has an issue with doing this with local stars. Like, for instance, Canadian Idol runner-up Gary Beals. The guy can't sing, makes the worst commercials in history, and still gets plastered over the paper whenever he's in the news JUST because he's from Halifax.
As with Beals, Crosby has now become a figurehead of hatred. It is now that the idiocy of Pierre McGuire (Last night in the american game, I believe he actually said that something was "lubricated", and my god I was ashamed to know he is employed in this country) that spreads this to the rest of the nation, but we in Halifax know well of his ovversaturation.
I was watching the game last night with a bunch of people...and we all have some form of rational Crosby hate. I'm tired of hearing about him, and was that way awhile ago. Another was tired of oversaturation in this tournament. Another played against him in Minor Hockey and just kind of dislikes him. Another is secretly jealous of his talent.
Great Hockey player...but shut the fuck up about him, every single person who has ever spoken his name. Including myself.
US/Czech game was damn entertaining. An amazing performance from the Czech back-up, and an intense third period that saw the Americans actually play some hockey, and some impressive hockey at that.
The Canada game? Ugh. I hate blowouts, because any emotional investment is gone after 4 goals.
Memles said:
:lol What I hate about it is that the same media who blows these young athletes the fuck up, are the first vultures who tear 'em the fuck down at the first sign of trouble, and then act like everybody else but them were hyping him to the moon. As a NBA fan I've seen this for years, where a dozen or so players since Penny have been heralded as "the next Jordan", only to have virtually all of 'em fall flat on their face at some point. Lebron is now "the next Jordan" (though I think more people are recognizing that his actually has a different game to MJ), and he's somehow managed to live up to his ridiculous hype...but just watch the vultures should he stumble. Kobe's been the best example of this...went from being a lock to supplant Jordan as the best ever just six months ago, to now being the biggest bitch in sports. :lol
I like what I've seen of Crosby, and hope he's able to deliver. But Jesus Christ, let the kid develop on his own merits already. He'll be far better for it.
OMG I just realized that, after all the trash they've talked the Slovaks didn't even make the quarters! :lol
Normally it's the Czechs who are insufferably lippy after a loss ("sniff sniff we're better they they are we would have won if not for that fluky goal they aren't as good as they think they are wah wah" pretty much sums up the normal post-game interview for half the Czech games no matter if they lose in OT or by 6 goals) but reading all the Slovaks this year muttering how they were probably the best team in Pool B was pretty funny.
So Russia and Canada get the bye's into the semifinals. The quarters have USA/Sweden and Czech/Finland.... as surprised as I am that the Slovaks are out (I really thought they'd have second place easy) the fact the Swedes beat them is pretty hard to fathom too. The US/Sweden game will be a doozy if the US continues it's nutty wide open OMG-our-goalies-are-killing-us style where they try to overcompensate on offense, but I'm worried the Swedes will be drunk with the taste of not-failure for a change and remember how to trap and kill the flow.
Cze/Fin... meh I think the Czechs will romp. I'll be rooting for the Fins but they're such a young team.
Wish it was a Czech or American, but a brutal hit is nice even on guys you sorta like.
And again, :lol to Slovakia.
Normally it's the Czechs who are insufferably lippy after a loss ("sniff sniff we're better they they are we would have won if not for that fluky goal they aren't as good as they think they are wah wah" pretty much sums up the normal post-game interview for half the Czech games no matter if they lose in OT or by 6 goals
) but reading all the Slovaks this year muttering how they were probably the best team in Pool B was pretty funny.So Russia and Canada get the bye's into the semifinals. The quarters have USA/Sweden and Czech/Finland.... as surprised as I am that the Slovaks are out (I really thought they'd have second place easy) the fact the Swedes beat them is pretty hard to fathom too. The US/Sweden game will be a doozy if the US continues it's nutty wide open OMG-our-goalies-are-killing-us style where they try to overcompensate on offense, but I'm worried the Swedes will be drunk with the taste of not-failure for a change and remember how to trap and kill the flow.
Cze/Fin... meh I think the Czechs will romp. I'll be rooting for the Fins but they're such a young team.
Wish it was a Czech or American, but a brutal hit is nice even on guys you sorta like.
And again, :lol to Slovakia.
Socreges said:
Can't believe I missed that first time, but were you not listening to what was happening? Sutter isn't "acting" like a hardass - he was smiling and looked like he possessed normal human emotions a few times in the game but at the end he was obviously annoyed with the pushing and shoving going on, it wasn't shown much but you could hear the players were jawing back and forth. A minute after the teams were seperated (with nobody doing anything dumb and catching a 1 game suspension) he stopped scowling. He's a tougher coach than most but any coach worth the title would be working hard to keep a team on a dominating run like that from getting complacent, and the second a team notices the coach looking "content" half way through a series you know there's an embarrassing defeat coming up.
For one, his expression wasn't incidental. It was just how he looked. It's how he ALWAYS looks during the game, barring temporary exceptions. The point was that it was at the end of the game, and not during or immediately after any activity, that the contrived face remained. And I've seen him smile. I've also seen him struggle to suppress it.calder said:
Daryl Sutter, for instance, is someone that just IS. He often looks either indifferent or a little irritated.
Let's just identify that there is a critical difference between looking content and being as such entirely. So many coaches are tough and demand nothing less than the best of their players, but still have the capacity to stand at the bench and just calmly survey the game, every so often getting upset. Granted, they don't NEED to. By all means be the type that is constantly displeased. But there's just something about Brent Sutter, and as well in how he transitions from smiles to scowls, that tells me that it's not so much what he thinks of any performance that is having him look like that, but circumstance and how he wishes to be perceived.Calder said:
Well, if you think Sutter is just aping the attitude that's one thing (I'd say that all coachs "act" in that way but some are definitely more annoying than others in their obviously affected mannerisms) and fair enough. I personally see nothing wrong with his coaching persona at all, and he's a very good hockey coach/exec with success at many levels as a player and behind the bench so I'd personally give him a free pass on his schtick. But hey I always found Scotty Bowman annoying as can be as a coach and he was pretty good too so... *shrug*
3-0 for the Czechs over the Finns, to the surprise of no one. Finland just can't score, but if the core of that team comes back next year they should be good.
Wow, 5 minutes into the US/Sweden game and it's already thrilling. The US is the most exciting team in this tourney, and like Bob McKenzie said before the game it's not exactly a compliment.
1-0 for Sweden already, but the US puts so much pressure on O that an early lead shouldn't let the Swedes relax too much. Sure enough, the US responds with insane scoring chances, but they look so nervous and out of sorts, like a high school team with good skill that's poorly coached and has an iffy goalie they seem to panic on offense and everyone tries to score 2 goals every time they get the puck. Those bad habits with pinching defense lead to the Swedish 3 on 1 they scored on. The Swedes looked so shitty at the beginning of the tourney though that I somehow can't imagine them winning unless Montoya lets in a few bad goals (and hey, he's done it every game so far).
3-0 for the Czechs over the Finns, to the surprise of no one. Finland just can't score, but if the core of that team comes back next year they should be good.
Wow, 5 minutes into the US/Sweden game and it's already thrilling. The US is the most exciting team in this tourney, and like Bob McKenzie said before the game it's not exactly a compliment.
1-0 for Sweden already, but the US puts so much pressure on O that an early lead shouldn't let the Swedes relax too much. Sure enough, the US responds with insane scoring chances, but they look so nervous and out of sorts, like a high school team with good skill that's poorly coached and has an iffy goalie they seem to panic on offense and everyone tries to score 2 goals every time they get the puck. Those bad habits with pinching defense lead to the Swedish 3 on 1 they scored on. The Swedes looked so shitty at the beginning of the tourney though that I somehow can't imagine them winning unless Montoya lets in a few bad goals (and hey, he's done it every game so far).
7-2 for the USA
I hate Pierre McGuire. I really do.
"The US coach approached Kessel and said 'You can be our Sydney Crosby'".
Did he? DID HE?
And after Kessel scores on a very weak shot off a very crappy rebound:
"What a shot by Kessel!"
Of course, as more and more replays are shown, McGuire slowly changes his praise to Kessel "out-working" the Swedes or some shit.
This was just within the two minutes that I watched the game. Doubt I could bear making it through three periods.
I hate Pierre McGuire. I really do.
"The US coach approached Kessel and said 'You can be our Sydney Crosby'".
Did he? DID HE?
And after Kessel scores on a very weak shot off a very crappy rebound:
"What a shot by Kessel!"
Of course, as more and more replays are shown, McGuire slowly changes his praise to Kessel "out-working" the Swedes or some shit.
This was just within the two minutes that I watched the game. Doubt I could bear making it through three periods.
Socreges said:
Uhm, yeah, the assistant coach actually did pretty much say exactly that. Repeated the conversation to reporters too, which is why you can find the quote on any hockey site covering the tourney.
Perfect game for the US though, Montoya played well enough, they scored a bunch against a pretty hapless Team Sweden and everyone gets to relax and try to put the previous couple of games behind them. I still have a strong feeling that Montoya will play quite well against the russians, but the Russians will still win though.
Alright, my bad. Though I think that's insulting.calder said:Uhm, yeah, the assistant coach actually did pretty much say exactly that. Repeated the conversation to reporters too, which is why you can find the quote on any hockey site covering the tourney.
Besides that, McGuire says so much stupid shit my head spins. That's why I thought he would have just made that up, as he so often 'interprets'. You've got a coach talking to a player on the bench, with no audio mind you, and McGuire is naturally using his telepathic powers to tell us what's being said.
I like McGuire, but I'll definitely agree that he really does that ESP "so and so is telling the player to not do ____ anymore, and to watch out for _____!" shit way too much. It's cute at times in a jokey way, but he goes way overboard and presents what he'd be saying as what the coach really is saying without even a qualifier to show he doesn't actually know exactly what they're saying.
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