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I'm going to choose to believe that Bosh asked for his name to be listed that way.

DY_nasty said:
They've done it before. Don't see why they wouldn't again...
Have they done it since the rookie game was instated? I know Yao Ming played but I thought he was voted in.
 
Sharp said:
Have they done it since the rookie game was instated? I know Yao Ming played but I thought he was voted in.
Can't remember... When did they start the rookie game?

The biggest reason that there haven't been any rookies in lately is because most simply aren't that good or there's a logjam of vets playing equally well. In the West, I don't see why Griffin wouldn't make it.
 
DY_nasty said:
Can't remember... When did they start the rookie game?

The biggest reason that there haven't been any rookies in lately is because most simply aren't that good or there's a logjam of vets playing equally well. In the West, I don't see why Griffin wouldn't make it.

Rookie game started in 94. Last two Rookies to be All-Star Starters were Shaq and MJ.
 
Barrage said:
Rookie game started in 94. Last two Rookies to be All-Star Starters were Shaq and MJ.
He wouldn't be a starter of course.

Didn't Grant, Webber, and Tim Duncan all play in the ASG as rookies?
 
Didn't see this posted:

An ESPN anchor lifted Kevin Ding's story.

Imagine the surprise: Lakers beat writer Kevin Ding of the Orange County Register files his stories from the Lakers loss to the San Antonio Spurs Tuesday and heads back to his hotel room, flips on ESPN News — and hears his lead from a Dec. 26 game preview being used by anchor Will Selva to lead into the Lakers/Spurs highlights. This was on ESPN News’ “Highlight Express” show so that clip ran over and over all night long.

Not with credit, just flat out stealing the lines. Ding wrote about it, and Mediaite has the video and Ding’s words side-by-side. It really leaves no doubt. Several other sites such as Sports by Brooks reported it as well.

Wednesday Selva did call to apologize to Ding personally. FanHouse has since reported that Selva has been suspended by ESPN. Also, ESPN released a statement with comments from Selva (via the OC Register):

“I made a horrible mistake and I’m deeply sorry. I did not live up to my high standards or ESPN’s. As I often do, I research local stories to use as background for writing my script. In this case, I cut and pasted the story with every intention of writing my own. I simply forgot and I completely understand why this is a major problem. I sincerely apologize for my sloppiness, especially to Kevin Ding, viewers and colleagues. In my 15 years in broadcast journalism, nothing like this has ever happened and I will make every effort to ensure it won’t happen again.”
 
Barrage said:
Rookie game started in 94. Last two Rookies to be All-Star Starters were Shaq and MJ.
Both of them had pretty insane rookie years though (though Griffin is not that far behind Shaq stats-wise). I guess that does mean the coaches have voted in players since the rookie game began though, so there's a chance. Still, they'll probably give them to players like Love and Thrillsap (though IMO Blake deserves it more than he does, this may be Thrill's only opportunity).
 
DY_nasty said:
He wouldn't be a starter of course.

Didn't Grant, Webber, and Tim Duncan all play in the ASG as rookies?

Grant and Duncan did.

But I would think that if they didn't let LeCrab play in the ASG as a rookie, they won't let anyone else unless they get voted in.
 
Timmy made the All-Star game in 1998. Along with NBA All-NBA First Team, NBA All-Rookie First Team, and NBA All-Defensive First Team.
 
The league is pussy now; they won't risk any injury for the rookies that matter in any unnecessary showcase, and they won't risk anyone getting owned up hard - either a vet getting faced by a rook, or a rook getting destroyed by a vet.


Maybe they'll revise that for Emperor Griffin, but probably not.
 
Barrage said:
Grant and Duncan did.

But I would think that if they didn't let LeCrab play in the ASG as a rookie, they won't let anyone else unless they get voted in.
LeElbow wasn't as good in his rookie season as Griff anyway so I don't know if we should read too much into that.
 
captmcblack said:
The league is pussy now; they won't risk any injury for the rookies that matter in any unnecessary showcase, and they won't risk anyone getting owned up hard - either a vet getting faced by a rook, or a rook getting destroyed by a vet.


Maybe they'll revise that for Emperor Griffin, but probably not.
There isn't a single 'center' in the West this year. I don't think Stern is going to put in Bynum over Griffin... Not like anyone has ever been hurt or anything at an ASG before either outside of a twisted ankle.
 
Sharp said:
LeElbow wasn't as good in his rookie season as Griff anyway so I don't know if we should read too much into that.

Still good enough to make the ASG any other year. It was inexplicable how Redd made it and Lebron didn't.
 
Sharp said:
Wait... just read the list of centers in the West. Brendan Haywood isn't really third in voting is he?
He's not even the best center on his own team!
 
Remember 2 days ago when the Lakers needed to trade Bynum for Carmelo Anthony's expiring contract (:lol @ Konex and his "ideas" about basketball and music) and that the Celtics would run away with homecourt?

This is why men don't start panicking when it is still December and the season has barely started.
 
Joe Smith and Luke Walton for Scola?

Do it Mitch! I always liked Scola and he would fit in immediately to what the Lakers do and actually provide some toughness for our front line.
 
bionic77 said:
Remember 2 days ago when the Lakers needed to trade Bynum for Carmelo Anthony's expiring contract (:lol @ Konex and his "ideas" about basketball and music) and that the Celtics would run away with homecourt?

This is why men don't start panicking when it is still December and the season has barely started.
Beating the Hornets hasn't been a big deal since November when the Clippers made it trendy and fashionable. Not that Lakers fans should be panicking, per se, but y'all can't rely on KG injuries to bail you out for the rest of the year. Or do you still think you'll be grabbing DAT first seed?
 
bionic77 said:
Joe Smith and Luke Walton for Scola?

Do it Mitch! I always liked Scola and he would fit in immediately to what the Lakers do and actually provide some toughness for our front line.

Yea, he's pretty much it. Just what? 9, 11 million more to the cap? Pfft.

Or do you still think you'll be grabbing DAT first seed?

We didn't have the first seed 2 of the 3 years we three-peated the first time. Past that, we proved the past two years we can win at home and on the road.

Try harder.
 
John Wall (Wizards) 169,219
Gilbert Arenas (Magic) 144,889
Brandon Jennings (Bucks) 128,556
Raymond Felton (Knicks) 105,425
John Wall - Rookie, 15/9/4 slightly above 2/1 A/TO ratio
Gilbert Arenas - 16/6/3 not even 2/1 A/TO ratio, hurt/traded
Brandon Jennings - 18/6/4 close to 3/1 A/TO ratio, hurt
Raymond Felton - 18/9/4 close to 3/1 A/TO ratio

Only Felton plays on a winning team (Gilbert just traded to one). Jeez...
 
The Frankman said:
John Wall - Rookie, 15/9/4 slightly above 2/1 A/TO ratio
Gilbert Arenas - 16/6/3 not even 2/1 A/TO ratio, hurt/traded
Brandon Jennings - 18/6/4 close to 3/1 A/TO ratio, hurt
Raymond Felton - 18/9/4 close to 3/1 A/TO ratio

Only Felton plays on a winning team (Gilbert just traded to one). Jeez...
ASG voter thinking:

John Wall - Nice stats... hey he even has a song named after him! AW YEAH VOTE THAT MOFO UP
Gilbert Arenas - Why the fuck is he so low, he was siiiiiick last time I saw him play... must be that gun thing. Man, fuck it, vote him up!
Brandon Jennings - Shit didn't he have a 50 point game last year or something? Daaaaamn son... prolly VOTE HIM UP as well
Raymond Felton - Who the fuck is that, does he play for some shitty team like the Bobcats or Knicks or something
 
Felton is both not a hot young flashy player (like Jennings and Wall), and also not a former all-star (like Arenas). In the event that somehow those guys were in actual contention to be all-stars, Felton would be in front of all of them - don't worry.

That said, Felton won't be an all-star and has no chance, barring the apocalypse.


Also, Nets backing out of Carmelowatch '10/'11 (realgm, CBSsports). lolz?
 
Boombloxer said:
We didn't have the first seed 2 of the 3 years we three-peated the first time. Past that, we proved the past two years we can win at home and on the road.

Try harder.
What does this team have to do with the team that threepeated the first time? Might as well bring up the Showtime Lakers while you're at it. Lakers don't look like they'll be getting first seed this year and for the first time in a while that might actually be a problem. I'm not even trolling here.
The Frankman said:
You forgot to add Dougie for Wall and HE LIKE A CHUBBY PENCILBEARD BABY for Felton.
Wall's Dougie was one of the single greatest moments of this season.
 
Sharp said:
Or do you still think you'll be grabbing DAT first seed?
If KG's injury is as bad as it seemed... HCA's importance just took a nose-dive for the Lakers.

All the Lakers have to worry about is getting 2nd seed out West and 3'rd overall. They'll be more than fine if they do.
 
Sharp said:
Wall's Dougie was one of the single greatest moments of this season.

I thought it was pretty stupid. I mean, yeah, he's having fun and all, but save the clowning around for when you've won something.
 
Forceatowulf said:
Good lord, how many times have the Spurs played against a team missing key players this season?
Good lord, how many times have the Lakers been smacked by a team missing their key players this season?
 
exarkun said:
The Heat have some real fuckin scrubs on their team. At one point the Rockets bench had outscored theirs 20-0. Everytime a scrub shot the ball it was either a three or a straight bad shot. Miller does not look the same, Chalmers had a few smh moments, Arroyo is ass, and the list goes on and on. Z looked good, Dampier was LOL-bad. If one of the big three is injured (Wade), I'm gonna say its over if they meet us again. The Rockets always had the Lebron team's number (though the Heat even when they were bad would blast us).



Finally, I'm pretty sure Stern called about half-way through the third quarter and told em to start giving out the star treatment. Wade and Lebron were getting some buullllshit calls. Flagrant on Brooks after 2 mins of watching Wade sit on the floor? WTF is that shit? Shoulda smacked his bitch ass harder. I was so heated.



:lol Hate much? Wait til Mike Miller finally gets back for real. And Udonis later on as well. That bench is not scrubby.
 
Jeff-DSA said:
I thought it was pretty stupid. I mean, yeah, he's having fun and all, but save the clowning around for when you've won something.
Wall had ALREADY WON rookie of the year at that point so it was cool.
Forceatowulf said:
If KG's injury is as bad as it seemed... HCA's importance just took a nose-dive for the Lakers.

All the Lakers have to worry about is getting 2nd seed out West and 3'rd overall. They'll be more than fine if they do.
I don't know how serious KG's injury is, I honestly don't, but what I meant was that I don't think the Lakers are anywhere close to automatic to get out of the West this year. That's new. I don't think it's an effort issue either where they can just suddenly turn it on and things will run smoothly. To be perfectly honest I thought they were giving it a fair amount of effort in both the Heat and Spurs games. Maybe not playoff effort, but good effort. Gasol and Kobe weren't bricking shots because of lack of effort. If you disagree with me, that's cool, and obviously there's plenty of season left. We'll see in the end whether these issues are overblown or not.
 
VindicatorZ said:
:lol Hate much? Wait til Mike Miller finally gets back for real. And Udonis later on as well. That bench is not scrubby.
Udonis wont be the same player when he gets back. I hope you come to terms with that sooner rather than later.
 
VindicatorZ said:
:lol Hate much? Wait til Mike Miller finally gets back for real. And Udonis later on as well. That bench is not scrubby.
Yeah! Just wait til Mike Miller gets back to 2007 Griz form!
 
VindicatorZ said:
:lol Hate much? Wait til Mike Miller finally gets back for real. And Udonis later on as well. That bench is not scrubby.
Wtf just happened?
 
I have no idea why Miami fans even try to defend that bench. Wasn't the whole point of the Heat experiment to see if a constructed team of two superstars and a Bosh, with basically all its salary tied into that core and pretty much nothing else, could singlehandedly win a chip? Don't go around messing with that formula or try to construct an actual team... that would be admitting defeat. Shit, then LeBron might just be a roleplayer or something.
 
lebron-wade-bosh-heat-bench.jpg


Wade: Yo, Lebron, did you hear about those guys running around saying that Mike Miller and Udonis were the key to us bringing home the chip?

Lebron: LOL

Bosh: Guys, quiet. Red car is pulling ahead of green car, but blue car has been steady. If blue car wins our section gets t-shirts thrown our way.
 
Jeff-DSA said:
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Bosh: Guys, quiet. Red car is pulling ahead of green car, but blue car has been steady. If blue car wins our section gets t-shirts thrown our way.
Fixed.
 
Forceatowulf said:
Udonis wont be the same player when he gets back. I hope you come to terms with that sooner rather than later.


:lol Ok nostradamus!

And Mike Miller will provide a nice boost to the bench once he gets back in form. Even if he never does, barring an injury, this team can compete and most likely beat any team in the NBA in a 7 game series.

Bring the Hate.
 
Sharp said:
I don't know how serious KG's injury is, I honestly don't, but what I meant was that I don't think the Lakers are anywhere close to automatic to get out of the West this year. That's new. I don't think it's an effort issue either where they can just suddenly turn it on and things will run smoothly. To be perfectly honest I thought they were giving it a fair amount of effort in both the Heat and Spurs games. Maybe not playoff effort, but good effort. Gasol and Kobe weren't bricking shots because of lack of effort. If you disagree with me, that's cool, and obviously there's plenty of season left. We'll see in the end whether these issues are overblown or not.
You have to also consider that the line-up those teams played against most likely wont be the line-up they'll play against come playoffs.

I'm not trying to make excuses either, we lost those games because the other team was better than us that day, period. But the fact of the matter is our teams dynamic changes when we've got our proper line-up in place and players are back in their natural positions.

Another thing to consider is that our main competition out West got swept last year with basically all of the same players they have now and it was against a team that played mediocre defense. You can't just turn a blind eye to something like that...
 
VindicatorZ said:
:lol Ok nostradamus!

And Mike Miller will provide a nice boost to the bench once he gets back in form. Even if he never does, barring an injury, this team can compete and most likely beat any team in the NBA in a 4 game series.

Bring the Hate.

Sure, but can they win a 7 game series?
 
If it weren't for Vin being right about the whole offseason thing months before it happened, I'd lump him in with the other triple Ls.
 
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