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[diehard]

My parents went there.

Back on point, someone whose stupidity and immorality has screwed over plenty of other people has no room to complain about getting screwed over. IMO people who cheat their way through college or get paid need to be banned from the professional sport they're trying for. The only way to discourage that crap is to deny them the payday.

Hot damn you're rooting against Auburn too?

 

[Branduil]

Well, your folks are ok in my book.

YOO CEE ELL AA

Plus my alma mater doesn't even have a football team.

Then again UCLA doesn't either. :\

Hot damn you're rooting against Auburn too?

Why would anyone who isn't an Auburn fan cheer for them? Besides the "SEC Solidarity" meatheads.

 

[DY_nasty]

My parents went there.

Back on point, someone whose stupidity and immorality has screwed over plenty of other people has no room to complain about getting screwed over. IMO people who cheat their way through college or get paid need to be banned from the professional sport they're trying for. The only way to discourage that crap is to deny them the payday.

Don't blame the player. Blame the system.

Many coaches and ADs make a living on kids like that. You think a guy like Rose wanted to go to college in the first place? Not everyone can go overseas and maintain their draft stock...

 

[diehard]

Why would anyone who isn't an Auburn fan cheer for them? Besides the "SEC Solidarity" meatheads.

Usually i generally root against the SEC but this year i'm really rooting against them.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Then again UCLA doesn't either. :\

You cut me deep, Shrek.

 

[masud]

Obama should make BP buy the Hornets and keep them in NO.

 

[Branduil]

Don't blame the player. Blame the system.

Many coaches and ADs make a living out of kids like that. You think a guy like Rose wanted to go to college in the first place? Not everyone can go overseas and maintain their draft stock...

Getting an acceptable grade on the SAT really isn't that hard... but there's no denying Calipari is grade-A slime. Too bad for him his players cheat on their free throw exams too.

You cut me deep, Shrek.

I just wish the university would pony up the money for a real coach instead of just hiring rejects with ties to the program. The thing that amazes me is somehow Neuheisel is even worse than Dorrell. At least Dorrell's teams were thoroughly mediocre instead of just bad.

 

[Blackace]

My parents went there.

Back on point, someone whose stupidity and immorality has screwed over plenty of other people has no room to complain about getting screwed over. IMO people who cheat their way through college or get paid need to be banned from the professional sport they're trying for. The only way to discourage that crap is to deny them the payday.

Wrong fucking colleges wallow in the cash that players like Rose and Reggie Bush create for the school... They need to be paying those kids something.. And now kids that might be good enough to play in the NBA out of high school are forced to perhaps blow their knee out in college while the school takes 100% profits? Pffft.. I respect the route Jennings took and hope more players do this instead of colleges from now on...

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Getting an acceptable grade on the SAT really isn't that hard... but there's no denying Calipari is grade-A slime. Too bad for him his players cheat on their free throw exams too.

Says you.

If you are a fucking jock that has ZERO interest in doing anything but getting paid to play professional basketball, of course it can be hard.

Does anyone care how KG did on his SAT?

Oh wait...

 

[Jamesfrom818]

Plus my alma mater doesn't even have a football team.

Then again UCLA doesn't either. :
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They were decent with Mo Jones Drew and Marcedes Lewis =(

 

[Branduil]

Wrong fucking colleges wallow in the cash that players like Rose and Reggie Bush create for the school... They need to be paying those kids something.. And now kids that might be good enough to play in the NBA out of high school are forced to perhaps blow their knee out in college while the school takes 100% profits? Pffft.. I respect the route Jennings took and hope more players do this instead of colleges from now on...

They still get a free ride through college while being able to do what they love. I can't feel a tremendous amount of sympathy for them.

Says you.

If you are a fucking jock that has ZERO interest in doing anything but getting paid to play professional basketball, of course it can be hard.

Does anyone care how KG did on his SAT?

Oh wait...

An education is always a good thing to have... some of them might not blow through all of their money so fast if they'd paid attention in class.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

My parents went there.

Back on point, someone whose stupidity and immorality has screwed over plenty of other people has no room to complain about getting screwed over. IMO people who cheat their way through college or get paid need to be banned from the professional sport they're trying for. The only way to discourage that crap is to deny them the payday.

So you take it out on rose? Did he take someone's scholarship? Probably would have been another one and done, these players don't give a shit about college and were forced into it by the system. These players KNOW they are good and know they are going to the NBA, why should they care about academics?

An education is always a good thing to have... some of them might not blow through all of their money so fast if they'd paid attention in class.

Leagues have programs set up to educate their players on how to save/invest their money. Paying attention in a dance class wont help them with that. The way it is now is coaches convince all their players they have a chance of making it in the NBA/NFL and the sport ends up taking up most of their time.

At my school we a ranked team and have games scheduled for the Saturday before exam week and the Saturday after.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

They still get a free ride through college while being able to do what they love. I can't feel a tremendous amount of sympathy for them.

THEY DON'T WANT TO BE THERE!

That's like if I got a free, expenses paid trip to Burma an I should enjoy it because I love to travel.

An education is always a good thing to have... some of them might not blow through all of their money so fast if they'd paid attention in class.

Sure, to you or I who might value education but to someone who is looking past the formality of college to the actuality of playing in the NBA (and getting paid), it might have no real value.

 

[DY_nasty]

They still get a free ride through college while being able to do what they love. I can't feel a tremendous amount of sympathy for them.

A free ride at the college they never wanted to go to in the first place?

And its 2010 - a degree isn't worth anything close to what it used to be.

 

[Branduil]

They were decent with Mo Jones Drew and Marcedes Lewis =(

They always have talent... it's just the coaches have no idea how to use it. And of course Drew Olson has been the only half-decent QB since McNown.

 

[Branduil]

So you take it out on rose? Did he take someone's scholarship? Probably would have been another one and done, these players don't give a shit about college and were forced into it by the system. These players KNOW they are good and know they are going to the NBA, why should they care about academics?

THEY DON'T WANT TO BE THERE!

That's like if I got a free, expenses paid trip to Burma an I should enjoy it because I love to travel.

A free ride at the college they never wanted to go to in the first place?

And its 2010 - a degree isn't worth anything close to what it used to be.

Then don't go. Go to Europe or just screw around or whatever. But I'm not going to feel sorry for someone who gets for free what millions of people have to work for and they don't even appreciate it.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

A free ride at the college they never wanted to go to in the first place?

And its 2010 - a degree isn't worth anything close to what it used to be.

Specially with the majors most athletes can get. There are a few exceptions but most end up getting something that is pretty much worthless.

Then don't go. Go to Europe or just screw around or whatever. But I'm not going to feel sorry for someone who gets for free what millions of people have to work for and they don't even appreciate it.

What is there to appreciate when you are forced to go to a school and they just take advantage of you? Scholarship? Yeah right, Basketball and Football pay for all the other sports.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Then don't go. Go to Europe or just screw around or whatever. But I'm not going to feel sorry for someone who gets for free what millions of people have to work for and they don't even appreciate it.

Not everyone can go the Jennings route and to be fair, that route was a HUGE risk. Limited exposure, stock could drop, etc.

The formality of going one and done is, to get national exposure (and bring money to the drafting school, see Calipari and Tim Floyd) and remain visible.

If players could still come out of HS, this shit would be irrelevant.

Blame the CBA in the NBA if you wanna blame anyone.

 

[DY_nasty]

Then don't go. Go to Europe or just screw around or whatever. But I'm not going to feel sorry for someone who gets for free what millions of people have to work for and they don't even appreciate it.

Because not everyone is able, mentally prepared, or wants to pack their bags to go to Europe.

And College life for a student athlete isn't even remotely similar to that of a regular student. A normal student doesn't have to commit an extra 30 hours of their week to something that they're not being paid for. They're not left to figure out how to pick up the pieces after injuries either. God help them if they actually have real financial obligations outside of school...

 

[Branduil]

Specially with the majors most athletes can get. There are a few exceptions but most end up getting something that is pretty much worthless.


What is there to appreciate when you are forced to go to a school and they just take advantage of you? Scholarship? Yeah right, Basketball and Football pay for all the other sports.

They're not "forced" to go. No one is entitled to be a millionaire, and I'm sorry but you are never going to convince me to feel sorry for them having to go to college for one year.

Because not everyone is able, mentally prepared, or wants to pack their bags to go to Europe.

And College life for a student athlete isn't even remotely similar to that of a regular student. A normal student doesn't have to commit an extra 30 hours of their week to something that they're not being paid for. They're not left to figure out how to pick up the pieces after injuries either. God help them if they actually have real financial obligations outside of school...

I'd do it and never complain if I had the promise of millions of dollars after one year. I just can't feel sorry for anyone who thinks one year of college is too tough of a burden for millions of dollars.

 

[Corran Horn]

Casspi with 21 and 10? When did that happen? :lol

8 straight, baby! Here we come lottery!

And we will get screwed again by the lottery :lol


I should go to the game this Saturday. Wear my Mitch Richmond jersey and watch the Miami Heat destroy us

 

[Branduil]

And we will get screwed again by the lottery :lol

Well it's not really a great draft year anyway.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

They're not "forced" to go. No one is entitled to be a millionaire, and I'm sorry but you are never going to convince me to feel sorry for them having to go to college for one year.

You don't have to feel sorry for the ones that make it but it's pretty clear that colleges do a poor job at ensuring that their players are successful after their careers.

 

[Branduil]

You don't have to feel sorry for the ones that make it but it's pretty clear that colleges do a poor job at ensuring that their players are successful after their careers.

I don't necessarily disagree with that, but again, that's also a responsibility of the player. You have to be interested in your own education.

 

[Blackace]

Because not everyone is able, mentally prepared, or wants to pack their bags to go to Europe.

And College life for a student athlete isn't even remotely similar to that of a regular student. A normal student doesn't have to commit an extra 30 hours of their week to something that they're not being paid for. They're not left to figure out how to pick up the pieces after injuries either. God help them if they actually have real financial obligations outside of school...

They don't have time and in most aren't ALLOWED to have even a part time job.. And now they are forced to play for free for a school to pretty much exploit them because they aren't going to be staying for four years anyways so that so called free ride is 100% poppycock (I always wanted to say that) and the colleges now it.. Think 1 year of the next NBA superstar at your school for almost zero money and almost zero risk...

Yeah players have a gift to be able to play a sport for millions once they make it to the show.. But I hate when people act like OMG they cheated on a test they should never be allowed to make money again.. But it appiles only to basketball or football players? If a programmer is caught cheating in college should they be barred from the IT field! Just the most one sided unthought of argument ever...

 

[linsivvi]

It's extremely hypocritical of the NBA to set an age minimum. It's not like going to college for one year on an athlete scholarship will do anything to take care of a player's future. They never graduated and most employers are going to be wary about how legit their GPA is. If the NBA really cared so much, offer a free scholarship to all players who can't stay in the league beyond their rookie contracts.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

I don't necessarily disagree with that, but again, that's also a responsibility of the player. You have to be interested in your own education.

Many players could probably not afford to go to college without their scholarship, they have to take on their course load and all the responsibilities that come with their sport. Most DO stay academically eligible and continue to play.

Actually you should because they don't gain anything from but the colleges gain soooooo much from it.. Millions upon millions of dollars from their one year...

And it helps them recruit even more players to exploit...

 

[Blackace]

They're not "forced" to go. No one is entitled to be a millionaire, and I'm sorry but you are never going to convince me to feel sorry for them having to go to college for one year..

Actually you should because they don't gain anything from but the colleges gain soooooo much from it.. Millions upon millions of dollars from their one year...

 

[DY_nasty]

An extra :lol if you play college football. You're going to be hurting - and your school will not give a fuck.

I don't necessarily disagree with that, but again, that's also a responsibility of the player. You have to be interested in your own education.

A 4 year degree is extremely overrated by itself and you know it.

And living expenses apply to everyone. Full scholarship or not, people gotta eat - and 6'7 guys eat a lot more than 5'4 journalism majors.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Actually you should because they don't gain anything from but the colleges gain soooooo much from it.. Millions upon millions of dollars from their one year...

Yep.

SC made millions off of OJ Mayo's cameo apperance there.

When was the last time basketball and SC were in the same sentence before Mayo and DeRozan?

 

[Blackace]

An extra :lol if you play college football. You're going to be hurting - and your school will not give a fuck.
A 4 year degree is extremely overrated by itself and you know it.

And living expenses apply to everyone. Full scholarship or not, people gotta eat - and 6'7 guys eat a lot more than 5'4 journalism majors.

The thing is one and dones don't get a four year degree, do they risk their future for one year for nothing at all...

 

[Branduil]

Many players could probably not afford to go to college without their scholarship, they have to take on their course load and all the responsibilities that come with their sport. Most DO stay academically eligible and continue to play.

I realize that... and the players who do cheat are a slap in the face to those who don't. Just like how steroid users in baseball tarnished the whole league.

Actually you should because they don't gain anything from but the colleges gain soooooo much from it.. Millions upon millions of dollars from their one year...

If they didn't gain anything from it they wouldn't go, come on.

 

[DY_nasty]

The thing is one and dones don't get a four year degree, do they risk their future for one year for nothing at all...

But they should be thankful for the opportunity to be ran for millions of dollars, a dorm room, and a year's supply of underclassmen jumpoffs. :/

 

[etiolate]

Going to college is now being taken advantage of? I know the SEC is full of some fucked up greedy mentalities, but college isn't some torture chamber. It's useful if you use it.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

I realize that... and the players who do cheat are a slap in the face to those who don't. Just like how steroid users in baseball tarnished the whole league.

I'm sure all the players on the Auburn football team feel spited by what Cam Newton did.

Spoiler

LOOPHOLE

 

[Branduil]

I'm sure all the players on the Auburn football team feel spited by what Cam Newton did.

Spoiler

LOOPHOLE

I bet TCU does.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

If they didn't gain anything from it they wouldn't go, come on.

What did Rose gain by going to college that he wouldn't have gained had the CBA rules not been in place?

Now, conversely, what did the college and Calipari gain by having him there?

 

[PBY]

Going to college is now being taken advantage of? I know the SEC is full of some fucked up greedy mentalities, but college isn't some torture chamber. It's useful if you use it.

yes. These schools make so much money off them, and they never see a dime. Its a joke

 

[DY_nasty]

I realize that... and the players who do cheat are a slap in the face to those who don't. Just like how steroid users in baseball tarnished the whole league.

Not the same at all.

Cheating on a test != cheating on the field of play

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

I bet TCU does.

They hate cam newton because they didn't lose, not because he cheated.

 

[Blackace]

If they didn't gain anything from it they wouldn't go, come on.

What did Rose gain from going to college? Mayo gained some priavte cash, which is why he went to USC...but you can really say with a straight face that a one year student is gain a fraction of what he is giving to the college and risking at the school... Be real..

 

[Branduil]

What did Rose gain by going to college that he wouldn't have gained had the CBA rules not been in place?

Now, conversely, what did the college and Calipari gain by having him there?

Huh? When did I ever say it wasn't a system to make money for the universities? That's not my point. My point is a player who complains about having to play one free year of college ball to get his millions of dollars is an entitled brat and I feel no sympathy for their "plight."

yes. These schools make so much money off them, and they never see a dime. Its a joke

I'm pretty sure Rose is a millionaire right now.

 

[etiolate]

Ok, not getting paid for what has become a professional business is unfair, but thats different than saying a free college education is being taken advantage of.

 

[Blackace]

Going to college is now being taken advantage of? I know the SEC is full of some fucked up greedy mentalities, but college isn't some torture chamber. It's useful if you use it.

A player like Roy who goes for four years does gain a free degree which they might not have been able to afford who knows.. But a player like Rose who was a lock for a top five pick before he went to college is being taken advantage of..

 

[ryutaro's mama]

I'm pretty sure Rose is a millionaire right now.

A year later, thanks to the CBA.

 

[Blackace]

Ok, not getting paid for what has become a professional business is unfair, but thats different than saying a free college education is being taken advantage of.

Rose has no education.. None.. But they still got millions...

 

[Branduil]

What did Rose gain from going to college? Mayo gained some priavte cash, which is why he went to USC...but you can really say with a straight face that a one year student is gain a fraction of what he is giving to the college and risking at the school... Be real..

They got million-dollar contracts from NBA teams. It doesn't matter what the system "should" be in this particular case. You can argue against the one year rule all you want, I have no argument with that and think it should be gotten rid of. My issue is with the entitled kids who think that because something is wrong with the system that means it's okay to cheat or take bribes.

 

[Blackace]

I'm pretty sure Rose is a millionaire right now.

I pretty sure he could have been a year earlier if he wasn't forced to risk his entire career playing for the NCAA without making a legal penny...

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Damn, Ace and I are the same mind tonight...:lol

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

Huh? When did I ever say it wasn't a system to make money for the universities? That's not my point. My point is a player who complains about having to play one free year of college ball to get his millions of dollars is an entitled brat and I feel no sympathy for their "plight."



I'm pretty sure Rose is a millionaire right now.

They pay their dues and do what they have to do to get through the year that they should be making money but instead get nothing in college.

Drose would have more money if he didn't go to school. And Im aren't asking for you to pity these players, just for you to see that your reason for rooting against them isn't really fair.