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Honestly, I wish DJ had went to NY instead.captmcblack said:
Nothing makes me sicker than watching a really good player get destroyed slowly by his own team...
If you can't see the sarcasm in Raptors-age, you're a dope.Gabyskra said:
East and West are two different beasts, plus the knicks will have cap room next year for Carmelo or other good players. Knicks also still have there first round pick since Houston sucks.reilo said:
Doing good this year can help draw better free agents, knicks are good enough to make the playoffs, maybe even upset someone.
I remember that time when Carmelo was paired with another ball-dominant offense-only All-Star. That experiment worked out so well.Gabyskra said:
But put three of them together? And oh man, Knicks fans start talking championships!
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reilo said:
Wasn't that ball-dominant player also a guard, and not a mobile PF who scores with quick shots, pick and rolls and moves to the basket in the low post?
If the Knicks can win a single game next week, maybe they get some recognization. Their schedule for this week is a joke.
I'm glad they are taking care of business with sub .500 teams, which is enough to get a 6-8 playoff spot. But nobody outside NY is gonna celebrate the fact that they can finally consistently beat those weaker teams.
I'm glad they are taking care of business with sub .500 teams, which is enough to get a 6-8 playoff spot. But nobody outside NY is gonna celebrate the fact that they can finally consistently beat those weaker teams.
Pah fuck yeah.charsace said:
Nash, Amare, Marion, Barbosa (averaging 18PPG off the bench, fucking nuts), Raja Bell (15PPG and 41% from three, playing the thug-wing defender role to a T), and a non-pussy version of Boris Diaw? Deep as fuck.
If you don't think Amare is a ball-dominant PF, and if you don't think Felton is a ball-dominant PG, then I don't know what to tell you. The reason Joe Johnson/Marion/Diaw/Richardson core all worked around Amare is because those guys are great shooters that had a really great point-guard make everything work. It also helps that Nash is one of the best shooters of all time, so you can't just back up off of him and dare him to shoot. Carmelo demands the ball far more than any of those guys combined.captmcblack said:
If you think Felton can bring a Nash-esque presence to the fantasy core you're fapping to, then :lol
But out of all those guys you listed Barbosa is the only one that didn't immediately turn into trash once he left the suns. Marion has been bad ever since he's left the suns. Diaw is trash once again. Bell wasn't much before and after he he hasn't been much. Nash's pg play and Amare's elite scoring around the basket opened the floor up for those guys.reilo said:
Amare and Felton aren't ball dominant. Amare does a lot of his scoring off of movement and quick 1-4 dribble moves. If nothing is there for Stat he passes the ball. Felton does a lot of his scoring off of movement also. He only holds the ball in the half court for an excessive amound of time in the PnR. Most of Felton's assists are attained when the knicks are pushing off the miss. The knicks don't milk the clock. D'Antoni sits guys when they do start milking the clock. The only player that is guilty of being ball dominant is toney douglas.
First off, Barbosa has been trash for years. Diaw is the best player (lolololololollol kill me now i can't believe i'm typing this shit) on the Bobcats right now. And Marion is suffering from something called age. Bell was always a role player - and still is.charsace said:
Amare and Felton aren't particularly ball dominant though. Felton can be at times, but he can be slapped out of it.
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FeltonBranduil said:
18ppg 8ast 2stls 4rb 47%fg 35%3pt 58%TS 20per
He isn't playing very well right now though.
If you put Marion on the suns right now he would be putting up 17 and 9 playing next to Nash. Hell, if he was playing 35 mpg for the mavs he would probably put up 17 and 9.DY_nasty said:
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one stat renders everything else moot
jordan farmar > *
jordan farmar > *
I've seen Marion play. He isn't as athletic as he used to be, but he knows how to move with out the ball, still scores around the basket, can still knock down the midrange and still has great rebounding instincts. He could be a 15 and 10 player if he was playing starter minutes.DY_nasty said:
Knicks age, in all seriousness: it's not that Felton's not a good PG. He's fine. But PG is an insanely deep position right now. John Wall is putting up 18/9 even in Flip's retarded system and he's nowhere close to being in consideration for best PG. You need to be one of a handful of amazing players to truly be considered elite. CP3, DWill, Rondo (only because of the assists), Rose, and Westbrook are arguably elite. There are many others who are really good, but that doesn't make them great.
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Sharp said:
I'm pretty sure everyone in Knicks-Age says that/agrees with this already, though.
I don't think that NBA-Age would agree, though.
We weren't discussing the All Star game. Sadly, I do think Felton has a chance to get in, but only because most of the elite guards are in the Western Conference. Rose, Rondo and Wade are really the only guarantees in that department, and there's still another guard spot to fill. Felton could easily take that spot if the Knicks are still over .500 by the All Sar game. That doesn't make him elite though, last year that spot belonged to Allen Iverson :lolcharsace said:
I never said he was elite so don't put words in my mouth. I said he has been putting up very good numbers. Matter of fact these are the numbers I said he would be putting up when he signed with the knicks. Peopl laughed at me and went on to list all the pgs that were better than Felton and told me Duhon was better. Of course no one will own up to it. I will put two names out there though. thekad and DY.Sharp said:
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