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reilo said:
So, which guys does Felton jump to make the ASG?

Allen
Wade
Rose
Rondo
Nelson
Wall
Johnson
Jackson
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Are you joking? Wade, Rondo and Rose are definitely in. Allen and Wall (though I doubt wall makes it since rose didn't in his first year) have a chance. Nelson has no chance based on his stats. bobcats are terrible right now so Jackson hasa no chance. Joe Johnson has been terrible this season and definitely has no chance.
 
reilo said:
So, which guys does Felton jump to make the ASG?
Allen - Didn't even get in last year.
Wade
Rose
Rondo
Nelson - He gets in one year and for some reason people expect him to be a regular? That was his only shot.
Wall - Rookies don't get into the ASG anymore.
Johnson - He has been playing like shit, where have you been?
Jackson - Plays for the Kitties and isn't even the best guard on his own team. Plus, DAT attitude problem.
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Like I said earlier... Felton has a good shot if the Knicks remain at .500.
Gabyskra said:
Knicks are 11th in the league in shot attempts per game.

Sure there are 5 better guards in the East. But not 3 better PGs THIS SEASON.
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Remind me again of the rule that says there have to be 4 PGs selected to attend the All Star Game?
 
charsace said:
Are you joking? Wade, Rondo and Rose are definitely in. Allen and Wall (though I doubt wall makes it since rose didn't in his first year) have a chance. Nelson has no chance based on his stats. bobcats are terrible right now so Jackson hasa no chance. Joe Johnson has been terrible this season and definitely has no chance.
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Nelson has no chance? 15PPG/7APG/49FG% in 29.9MPG means he has no chance? He's made the ASG with less! Joe Johnson has no chance? You think Joe fucking Johnson will stay at his current pace? Come on bro!

It took a couple of miracles and some gift-wrapping for Mo Williams to make it in on a 60-win team playing next to Lebron, and Felton is more of a sure-fire thing?
 
Donatas Motiejunas has established himself as one of the top big men scorers in Europe this year.

After somewhat surprisingly electing not to enter his name in the 2010 NBA draft, Motiejunas has taken Italy by storm in his second season with Benetton Treviso. He currently ranks as the 2nd best per-minute scorer in the Italian Lega A, and is doing so in spectacularly efficient fashion, shooting 66% from 2-point range and 46% from behind the arc.
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Motiejunas unfortunately still struggles with the two very important areas that were pinpointed early on in his career as being major weaknesses: defense and rebounding. His defensive rebounding numbers have actually gotten worse this season, now down to a paltry 3.2 per-40 minutes, which ranks him dead last in the entire Italian league amongst both power forwards and centers.
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reilo said:
Nelson has no chance? 15PPG/7APG/49FG% in 29.9MPG means he has no chance? He's made the ASG with less! Joe Johnson has no chance? You think Joe fucking Johnson will stay at his current pace? Come on bro!
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No he didn't. Nelson made the all star game putting up 17 and 8 with like 40% from 3 before he got hurt that year. I remember because Mo Williams was shooting similar to him that year.

Joe Johnson is playing terrible this season and his going to miss a month due to surgery. He would have to go on a tear to make it.
 
reilo said:
Joe Johnson has no chance? You think Joe fucking Johnson will stay at his current pace? Come on bro!

It took a couple of miracles and some gift-wrapping for Mo Williams to make it in on a 60-win team playing next to Lebron, and Felton is more of a sure-fire thing?
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Where have you been. Joe Johnson is out 4 to 6 weeks. Unless he gets voted in, his chances are unlikely.
 
charsace said:
No he didn't. Nelson made the all star game putting up 17 and 8 with like 40% from 3 before he got hurt that year. I remember because Mo Williams was shooting similar to him that year.

Joe Johnson is playing terrible this season and his going to miss a month due to surgery. He would have to go on a tear to make it.
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Jameer Nelson finished the season averaging 16.7PPG and 5.4APG. He didn't have a single month where he averaged 6APG or more. I'd argue that he's having his best year yet -- statistically at least.

And Joe Johnson playing at his usual pace is still 50% better than Felton in a career year. You must be insane if coaches are gonna look at a list and think to themselves: "Well, hrmm, I sure gotta change my gameplan up for Raymond Felton before I do for Joe Johnson. How will I ever deal with Raymon Felton?? Johnson I'm not worried about!"

ollin said:
Where have you been. Joe Johnson is out 4 to 6 weeks. Unless he gets voted in, his chances are unlikely.
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He should be back in time to get in plenty of games before the reserve voting is tallied.
 
reilo, I have nothing invested in Felton becoming an All Star, nor do I think it's guaranteed, but wouldn't you say a pretty good PG on a .500 team in a huge market like NY with good numbers would have at least as good a chance as an injured one in one of the worst sports cities in the world who was playing like crap for much of the season pre-ASG?
 
Sharp said:
reilo, I have nothing invested in Felton becoming an All Star, nor do I think it's guaranteed, but wouldn't you say a pretty good PG on a .500 team in a huge market like NY with good numbers would have at least as good a chance as an injured one in one of the worst sports cities in the world who was playing like crap for much of the season pre-ASG?
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Considering that the only chance Felton will get in is through the coach's votes? Yeah, I'm sure as they're looking through their guard selection list, the one name that will stand out for them is Raymond Felton.

City, fanbase, market-size, whathaveyou have no bearing on the coaches' vote. At least I hope it doesn't.
 
reilo said:
Nelson has no chance? 15PPG/7APG/49FG% in 29.9MPG means he has no chance? He's made the ASG with less! Joe Johnson has no chance? You think Joe fucking Johnson will stay at his current pace? Come on bro!

It took a couple of miracles and some gift-wrapping for Mo Williams to make it in on a 60-win team playing next to Lebron, and Felton is more of a sure-fire thing?
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Age and money can decrease someone's PER by 3 points.
 
DY_nasty said:
Boris Diaw is the best player on my team.
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Sterling is my team's owner.

:( @ Rodeo...

So, T. Jones is averaging 21/10/2.2/2.5/1.5 on 51% FG, 44% 3P, and 54% FT as a freshman. Is he good enough to go top 5? Top 3?
 
DCX said:
All i have to say Felton= 18/8. DCX>>>>>>>yous.

DCX
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He's on my 1st place fantasy team.

No, my other 1st place fantasy team.
LiveFromKyoto said:
I get to read a RealGM board where sentences like "Andrea is averaging 8.75 boards over the last 4 games, where are all the haters now??" and threads like this:

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1072518

...are commonplace.
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Just look at the Bobcats boards.

We're waiting for someone to lead us in rebellion like Hero from Fable III.
 
Speaking of forums, what do you guys think of your team's blogs on SBN and the TrueHoop network?

My team may be terrible, but ClipsNation and Clipperblog are two damn good blogs in my opinion.
 
LiveFromKyoto said:
Godnani can play all 5 positions at a 6th man level.
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Bargnanni plays positions that aren't even positions at a High Level.

All-NBA Power Guard
All-NBA Skip
All-NBA Golden Snitch
 
NBA commissioner David Stern announced on Monday that the league will proceed with the purchase of the New Orleans Hornets following Gary Chouest's decision not to acquire the interest of majority owner George Shinn. The league's takeover of the franchise is subject to the NBA Board of Governors' approval, which will likely come next week.

"George Shinn has been an exceptional owner for New Orleans and Gary Chouest has been extraordinarily supportive as a minority owner," Stern said in a statement released by the NBA. "However, in light of the uncertain economic situation in New Orleans and Louisiana, Gary has decided not to move forward with the purchase of George's majority interest although he was prepared to remain an investor in the team. In the absence of any viable purchaser seeking to own the Hornets in New Orleans, I recommended to the NBA Board of Governors that the best way to assure stability and the adequate funding of the franchise would be for the league to step in, and complete the transaction and assume control.
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That quote should be a huge red flag to anybody still thinking the team has a chance in New Orleans.
 
Rodeo Clown said:
That quote should be a huge red flag to anybody still thinking the team has a chance in New Orleans.
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I think if Stern wanted the Hornets to move, they wouldn't have bought the team. I'm sure there were plenty of buyers who wanted to relocate them.
 
thekad said:
I think if Stern wanted the Hornets to move, they wouldn't have bought the team. I'm sure there were plenty of buyers who wanted to relocate them.
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Who's going to buy the team and keep them in New Orleans?
 
Adam Blade said:
Who's going to buy the team and keep them in New Orleans?
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Not sure, but I am sure that Stern would be more likely to sell to such a buyer and possibly incur some losses than a desperate Shinn.
 
thekad said:
I think if Stern wanted the Hornets to move, they wouldn't have bought the team. I'm sure there were plenty of buyers who wanted to relocate them.
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I look at it as the NBA ensuring they get good money for the team and a stable future and not have Shinn run a fire sale.
 
charsace said:
The bottom line with these guys is that they hate that the knicks have had a bigger following than their teams even when their teams were doing better. During this decade some of you have gotten hyped draft picks and had Chris Bosh's, but the knicks still had a bigger following. The knicks have a lot of true fans and this just bothers you guys.
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charsace said:
So would you guys prefer it if we made a knicks discussion thread so that we can discuss the knicks since we are a bunch of assholes and you don't want to read about the knicks? You don't like knicks fans posting about the knicks in the NBA thread so might as well let us post our own thread.
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Damn, you saltier than the dead sea. Seriously, you may want to just calm down.

masud said:
That comma should be a period sorry. I'm not above trolling the Raptors, oh no I'm all for it!

Again, who is doing this?
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charsace said:
What I love is that reilo is talking shit when he was talking about multiple titles after the Blazers drafted Oden. Knicks fans being happy after a win is, "out of order," and "acting like we one a title."
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No one minds a bit of gloating after a win, but it seems a bit absurd to come in and tell everyone that felton is now a bonafide all star. It's not the gloating, or even the boasting, its that you guys actually believe it and then will defend absurd statements. Then get all nancy when someone won't accept your opinion.

captmcblack said:
Because the market dictated it.
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Ummmm. Not really. The only other close to max deal amare got was from phoenix, where he was offered less money (not much less), but with big stipulations about injuries and playing time, because of his knees.

KingGondo said:
Don't get me wrong, Amar'e is a nice player. But he is not the missing piece on a championship squad, or a guy who can take your franchise to new heights. He's a volume-scoring PF with below-average rebounding skills who needs an elite PG to reach his potential.

And even then he's a liability on defense.

Knicks wouldn't have been any worse off re-signing Lee.
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Ok, amare could be a missing piece, but your Centre has to be a defensive powerhouse, and someone has to be a strong enough leader to keep his ass in line, and trying on the boards and D. And your coach has to be unafraid of benching his pouting ass.

That lee comment is a weak ass troll.

reilo said:
To reiterate, the Suns in their prime had four All-NBA level players on their team (Nash, Johnson, Marion, Amare) in their prime and couldn't get to the finals.

How many other teams had a team that stacked? Boston? Lakers sure as hell didn't. Nobody is going to give Odom, Bynum, and Artest any All-NBA love today. Spurs? Not even them.

But nope, Felton and an aging Amare are the core to build around.
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Did all those guys play a full season together, ever? Those suns teams were ravaged with injuries. I think probably the only season they had together was probably amare`s rookie season?

There are plenty of stacked teams. But you're right, the celtics with all stars, ray allen, rajon rondo, paul pierce and kevin garnett aren't stacked either. Nor the lakers with (healthy) bynum, gasol, artest, kobe. Nope, not stacked either. What a silly comment. And any of those guys could make an all nba team, either all nba, or all defensive.

And then they ran into Spurs that put the breaks on some dynasty like laker teams also. Lets not try and re-write history here, that suns team ran into some historically strong teams in the mid 00's.

charsace said:
I've seen Marion play. He isn't as athletic as he used to be, but he knows how to move with out the ball, still scores around the basket, can still knock down the midrange and still has great rebounding instincts. He could be a 15 and 10 player if he was playing starter minutes.
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lol, this
Branduil said:
Everything past 10 feet out is a complete crapshoot with Marion. His eFG% is 73% on inside shots, 33% on outside shots.
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Gabyskra said:
Knicks are 11th in the league in shot attempts per game.

Sure there are 5 better guards in the East. But not 3 better PGs THIS SEASON.
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with out even spending 5 seconds, rose rondo nelson.
 
thekad said:
I think if Stern wanted the Hornets to move, they wouldn't have bought the team. I'm sure there were plenty of buyers who wanted to relocate them.
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They spent the last 8 months trying to settle the sale with chouset, to keep the team in NO. But he can't afford it, and shinn hasn't got the money to keep the team a float, thats why the NBA had to buy it.

There are buyers out there who will buy it, if they can relocate it, but they weren't really delved into prior to this, because shinn was trying to make the transition as quickly as possible, by keeping the team in NO.

That team will move.
 
thekad said:
I think if Stern wanted the Hornets to move, they wouldn't have bought the team. I'm sure there were plenty of buyers who wanted to relocate them.
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I'm sure Stern prefers that, and he's all powerful, but he'd have to be a hell of a salesman to get somebody to sign on to keep the team where there's little fan support and they're going to lose a bunch of money.

Shinn tried to unload the team for years to somebody Louisiana-based, but nobody bit because it's not a worthwhile investment to keep the team there.
 
giri said:
Did all those guys play a full season together, ever? Those suns teams were ravaged with injuries. I think probably the only season they had together was probably amare`s rookie season?

There are plenty of stacked teams. But you're right, the celtics with all stars, ray allen, rajon rondo, paul pierce and kevin garnett aren't stacked either. Nor the lakers with (healthy) bynum, gasol, artest, kobe. Nope, not stacked either. What a silly comment. And any of those guys could make an all nba team, either all nba, or all defensive.

And then they ran into Spurs that put the breaks on some dynasty like laker teams also. Lets not try and re-write history here, that suns team ran into some historically strong teams in the mid 00's.
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Re-read my comment. It was specific to having number of players with All-NBA credentials in their prime playing together at the same time. I didn't say the Lakers nor Celtics were stacked. I said they didn't have four All-NBA players in their prime playing together. Which is true. Especially about the Celtics due to where their best players are in their career. I'm not saying they weren't stacked nor talented, just that their best players on their team weren't all put together during each and every one of their primes. That's the difference.

Besides, Lakers, Celtics and Spurs have experienced their fair share of injuries, too.
 
Anyone want a slightly used Chris Kaman? 11/7 on decent
36%
FG, only injured half a season each year, and with only 2 years left on his contract.
 
Adam Blade said:
Anyone want a slightly used Chris Kaman? 11/7 on decent
36%
FG, only injured half a season each year, and with only 2 years left on his contract.
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Just go back to the u23 lineup, it was much more entertaining.
 
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