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2010 Steam Holiday Sale Thread: of GAF collectively handing over wallet to Based Gabe

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Blizzard

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Stumpokapow said:
Checked my wishlist, 59 / 77 games on sale. Which games were not on sale?

- Drakensang
- The Longest Journey (never been on sale)
- VTM: Bloodlines (never been on sale)
- Fallout 2 (has been on sale on GOG I think, cheaper on GOG anyway)
- Fallout (")
- Psychonauts
- Dreamfall: TLJ (never been on sale)
- SiN (company bankrupt?)
- Professor FizzWizzle
- Stalker CS (has been on sale before)
- Stubbs the Zombie
- Advent Rising
- Civ V (was on sale earlier in sale)
- SiN Episodes 1 (company bankrupt?)
- Are you Smarter than a 5th Grader

So as best as I can tell, pretty much anything by a solvent, involved company who isn't 100% against sales in any forms is on sale right now.
SiN is kinda fun, and I liked Stubbs the Zombie. I also want the Dreamfall/Longest Journey games and Bloodlines. I'm just curious...do games that aren't discounted at ALL have a history of becoming daily deals, for anyone who remembers?

Of course, those particular games are unlikely to be daily deals, I suppose, though I thought there had been a sale like two years ago on dreamfall etc. I couldn't find any record of it.
 

Double D

Member
cornontheCoD said:
So, basically my choices are to get the ME2 DLC (the 3(?) good quest packs), or wait and see if anything else I want goes on sale. I'm really only holding out for Singularity, not much else I can think of that I want badly. How is the ME2 DLC, GAF?

I just looked for Mass Effect 2 DLC. Couldn't find it.
 

kai3345

Banned
cornontheCoD said:
So, basically my choices are to get the ME2 DLC (the 3(?) good quest packs), or wait and see if anything else I want goes on sale. I'm really only holding out for Singularity, not much else I can think of that I want badly. How is the ME2 DLC, GAF?
Shadow Broker is the only must.

Overlord is great and Kasumi is ok, but both are mere side stories.

Shadow Broker ties into Mass Effect 3
 
Stumpokapow said:
Checked my wishlist, 59 / 77 games on sale. Which games were not on sale?

- Drakensang
- The Longest Journey (never been on sale)
- VTM: Bloodlines (never been on sale)
- Fallout 2 (has been on sale on GOG I think, cheaper on GOG anyway)
- Fallout (")
- Psychonauts
- Dreamfall: TLJ (never been on sale)
- SiN (company bankrupt?)
- Professor FizzWizzle
- Stalker CS (has been on sale before)
- Stubbs the Zombie
- Advent Rising
- Civ V (was on sale earlier in sale)
- SiN Episodes 1 (company bankrupt?)
- Are you Smarter than a 5th Grader

So as best as I can tell, pretty much anything by a solvent, involved company who isn't 100% against sales in any forms is on sale right now.

what?!!? I never knew it got a PC port!! So bought! Game was awesome glitches be damned!
 
Vik_Vaughn said:
I just looked for Mass Effect 2 DLC. Couldn't find it.

Pretty sure you have to get it from EA Store. Forgot I needed to look for DLC sales (D'OH)

Alpha Protocol is really freaking good so far. Have not encountered any bugs, and it works fantastic with my 360 pad. I really don't get the hate. I am stealth & pistols and it works great.
 

Snaku

Banned
Getting a video card for Xmas that'll finally make my PC gaming worthy, and decided to see how much Gears of War was going for on Steam. Ok, it's not on Steam. Well how much for a physical copy? The hell, it's out of stock on Amazon? It's out of print period?! What the hell is going on here? Can someone explain to me why Gears of fucking War is out of print on PC?
 

Petrie

Banned
If I buy a game like gta4 that is on sale on Amazon for download, will I get a code that'd let me add it to steam and get all the features or will I be limited?
 

Soulstar

Member
Blizzard said:
SiN is kinda fun, and I liked Stubbs the Zombie. I also want the Dreamfall/Longest Journey games and Bloodlines. I'm just curious...do games that aren't discounted at ALL have a history of becoming daily deals, for anyone who remembers?

Of course, those particular games are unlikely to be daily deals, I suppose, though I thought there had been a sale like two years ago on dreamfall etc. I couldn't find any record of it.

Just recently played through TLJ and I want to play Dreamfall so badly but it's not on sale. I'm starting to think that I'm going to have to drop 20 bucks for that game...
 

kamspy

Member
Bought OpFlash: Console Rising. It's a hack job, but it filled a void in my Steam library. Bohemian doesn't want to sell me ArmA 2 bad enough yet.
 

Cobra84

Member
Snaku said:
Getting a video card for Xmas that'll finally make my PC gaming worthy, and decided to see how much Gears of War was going for on Steam. Ok, it's not on Steam. Well how much for a physical copy? The hell, it's out of stock on Amazon? It's out of print period?! What the hell is going on here? Can someone explain to me why Gears of fucking War is out of print on PC?
http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-US/Games/Gears-of-War-(Windows)/
Petrie said:
If I buy a game like gta4 that is on sale on Amazon for download, will I get a code that'd let me add it to steam and get all the features or will I be limited?
Only if it is a Steamworks game. I bought Mafia 2 and added it to Steam with the key they game me. GTA4 won't work.
kamspy said:
Bought OpFlash: Console Rising. It's a hack job, but it filled a void in my Steam library. Bohemian doesn't want to sell me ArmA 2 bad enough yet.
Not Steam, but - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003UV8RRE/?tag=neogaf0e-20
 

Yeef

Member
People that like Alpha Protocol: Make your case.

What I saw of reviews at launch made the game look really bad (buggy and poorly acted), but I have a curiosity in me. If someone can convince me that it's worth my time I might pick it up.

Helpful tips:
When it comes to WRPGs I generally prefer being more diplomatic than aggressive (well, in games where you create the character; in games with pre-made protagonists I tend to do what I think best fits the character).

I also prefer games where decisions you're allowed to make aren't polar opposites with obvious 'good' and 'evil' choices.
 
coopolon said:
Just Darksiders for me. Seriously thinking about Dead Rising 2, but I don't want to play it badly enough to pay more than $10 for it. Maybe next Christmas.

Same here, $10 is the most I'm willing to spend on Dead Rising 2, but I did grab Darksiders for $10. I've been waiting a while on a good deal on that game.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
enzo_gt said:
You're in Canada right? Could've swore Civ 5 was on sale at retail for $30 or something, and you'd have to activate it on Steam anyways. You should check out the gaming deals thread and see if the sale's still going, if you want Civ 5 still.

Yeah I did see that one. Civ 5 isn't high on my wishlist (actually I just eBayed Civ 2 like a month ago so I'm probably going to be Civved out), but I like to keep everything I'm even a little interested in on there just in case. Thanks for the heads up though!
 

Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
Yeef said:
Helpful tips:
When it comes to WRPGs I generally prefer being more diplomatic than aggressive (well, in games where you create the character; in games with pre-made protagonists I tend to do what I think best fits the character).

I also prefer games where decisions you're allowed to make aren't polar opposites with obvious 'good' and 'evil' choices.

Alpha Protocol fits both of those descriptions to a tee. As for the gameplay, it's a lot like the original Deus Ex where despite having the trappings of an action game, your success in combat relies entirely on your stats, not your skills as a player.
 
Yeef said:
Helpful tips:
When it comes to WRPGs I generally prefer being more diplomatic than aggressive (well, in games where you create the character; in games with pre-made protagonists I tend to do what I think best fits the character).

I also prefer games where decisions you're allowed to make aren't polar opposites with obvious 'good' and 'evil' choices.
Well great. Because that's what Alpha Protocol is about. There is no good/evil metric in the game there is only Michale Thorton and his relationship with every other character in the game. Its your choice how to interact with other characters, whether you want them to like you or hate you. The beauty of this is that either option has its own benefits. Just because you pissed some one off and they hate you doesn't mean you missed out on some quest or conversation tree or reward but that events are going to play out differently with different consequences.

Edit:
Heres a video with the game giving you the spiel.
 

Blizzard

Banned
Anyone know why Battlefield Bad Company 2 mentions SecuROM in the separate EA agreement you have to sign when you install it, but the Steam store page doesn't mention it? Is it just optional for DLC or something, like Borderlands was?
 

LCfiner

Member
just finished playing another couple hours of Just Cause 2. I think this might be the big game to blow up for me from this sale. I adore it.

the grappling, the parachuting, the incredible vistas on the island as the sunsets behind the mountains. it’s really something special.

it’s still early on so I guess there’s a chance it could screw it all up with a horrible difficulty spike or some BS escort mission but, for now, it’s just making me smile more than anything I’ve played in weeks.
 

Yeef

Member
Lostconfused said:
That video actually put me off of the game even more. The dialogue is stilted, the lip sync was awful (though that may just be youtube's fault) and the characters felt hollow. I realize that it's just the tutorial, but you know what they say about first impressions. I think I'm gonna pass on this one.

Petrie said:
This stuff is why I will never be able to go full PC. I crave organization and want something that is universal like my 360 damnit. Lame.
How do you play Uncharted or Mario on your 360?
 

Aselith

Member
So, I bit on Alpha Protocol even though I own it on 360. Love the game and wanted to support it. It's only 1gig though? Wtf? Did they redo it with Minecraft blocks?
 

-Rogue5-

Member
Vaporak said:
Grinding in The Witcher? I can't help but feel you're doing something very wrong.

I was hoping someone would say that... and then elaborate... I have no idea how to make bombs and potions; the alchemy stuff is totally bumming me out. I thought I needed to read books to get spells, but I can't find "the bomb" book or the "health potion" book and the books that I do find are fairly expensive and seemingly useless. Same with gear -- the only upgrade I've found is a new vest for 5000 oren, and I only have 1200 and it too me the first 2 chapters to get that much.
 
-Rogue5- said:
I was hoping someone would say that... and then elaborate... I have no idea how to make bombs and potions; the alchemy stuff is totally bumming me out. I thought I needed to read books to get spells, but I can't find "the bomb" book or the "health potion" book and the books that I do find are fairly expensive and seemingly useless. Same with gear -- the only upgrade I've found is a new vest for 5000 oren, and I only have 1200 and it too me the first 2 chapters to get that much.
Books are expensive because they are the most useful things in the game. Reading books about plants lets you gather ingredients from them, reading books about monsters gives you info/details about those monsters and lets you get ingredients from their bodies. Potion recipes will be given to you as the game progresses but you can look up them online in a FAQ and just mix the ingredients your self.

You really shouldn't be looking around for better gear because the swords you start with are pretty much the best ones until you get further into the game.

The best way to make money is by gambling, you can cheat the game by saving/reloading to avoid losing out a big sum.

Edit: Also remember to use appropriate styles for combat. If you cant hit the enemy with the strong style switch to fast or vice versa if its not working. Use group style when you are fighting 3 enemies or more. Also besides potions you can use sharpening stones, diamond dust and blade coatings to temporarily buff your weapons.
 

Aselith

Member
Yeef said:
People that like Alpha Protocol: Make your case.

What I saw of reviews at launch made the game look really bad (buggy and poorly acted), but I have a curiosity in me. If someone can convince me that it's worth my time I might pick it up.

This is my original opinion from when I first played it:
"I think I'm almost through the game and I've got to say I really, really like this game. It's definitely flawed in some ways but there are great ideas here and in my opinion it is a better game than ME 1 though maybe not 2 (haven't played it), the gunplay is much more satisfying and I think the writing is a good bit better. And I liked Mass Effect a LOT. AP is less technically polished but better executed.

Really good characters and an interesting plot (par for the course for a spy story but that's what I wanted.) I really like the way the stealth is executed and the game actually forces you to make choices in regards to what gear you equip through a limited economy and choices in regards to abilities. I'm level 15 currently and it feels like it's gonna be hard to max out even a single, full ability with the way I've been spreading my points."

I've since finished it of course and what I love about the game is that it absolutely makes you make pretty hard decisions about what you want to do which can have varying degrees of effect on the story. There are the actual dialogue decisions but it makes you actually think about what equipment you want. You can't just spend willy nilly because money is always in short supply. This doesn't particularly change toward the end.

Because of that and the choices you must make about skill points, you'll never actual enter godmode endgame in the sense of having everything maxed like many RPG's both J and W (although you are super effective if you follow a skill path and stick to it.)

I thought the story was really well done and the acting was good. The animations and graphics aren't mind-blowing but they are servicable.

At 7.50 it's absolutely a must-buy. I haven't played the PC version though so I can't attest to what bugs you may find. I've heard it's pretty buggy but I'd bet that's overblown somewhat at least.

Lostconfused already addressed the other part of your post and I agree. If that's what you want, this is the game for you.
 

kai3345

Banned
Aselith said:
So, I bit on Alpha Protocol even though I own it on 360. Love the game and wanted to support it. It's only 1gig though? Wtf? Did they redo it with Minecraft blocks?
that was a typo, its actually 11 gigs
 

Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
Yeef said:
That video actually put me off of the game even more. The dialogue is stilted, the lip sync was awful (though that may just be youtube's fault) and the characters felt hollow. I realize that it's just the tutorial, but you know what they say about first impressions. I think I'm gonna pass on this one.

You're going to pass a game that fits your description of what you like about WRPG's completely, you're going to pass on this game when it's 7 freaking dollars.

You are a crazy person. Get away from me, you probably smell funny.
 

Yeef

Member
-Rogue5- said:
I was hoping someone would say that... and then elaborate... I have no idea how to make bombs and potions; the alchemy stuff is totally bumming me out. I thought I needed to read books to get spells, but I can't find "the bomb" book or the "health potion" book and the books that I do find are fairly expensive and seemingly useless. Same with gear -- the only upgrade I've found is a new vest for 5000 oren, and I only have 1200 and it too me the first 2 chapters to get that much.
You get the most XP in the Witcher via quests and grinding is really pointless since the game is fairly easy without grinding.

As far as alchemy goes: In order to make bombs and oils you need those respective skills. I believe they're under the intelligence skill set, but I don't entirely recall.

Oils are extremely useful (most of them make you do double damage to a specific type of enemy and last a full day). Until you can make them try to use the generic grindstones that you can buy (or find). I don't remember what they all were called, but Diamond Dust was the most powerful that I remember, it makes your weapon do an extra 40% damage).

Honestly, even though I got the bomb making skill and had tons of bombs I went through the entire game without ever using one.

You should have the recipe for Swallow (the health regen potion) by default. In order to create potions you need an alchemical base (strong alcohol) and the different ingredients. The best way to get ingredients is to harvest the random plants you come across on your travels. You can also get them by looting the monsters you kill.

Books and scrolls are very important. You can't collect ingredients from monsters and plants that you don't know anything about yet. You can also learn new recipes for potions, oils and bombs from books and scrolls. Reading books to fill in the encyclopedia helps a great deal. Try to read as many books as you can.

Don't worry too much about equipment. It's not important. There are only two armor upgrades and like 2 or 3 sword upgrades through the entire game. You can modify your swords with extra attributes if you find rune stones and/or meteorites by taking them to a blacksmith.

I wasn't a really big fan of the interface for upgrading and it confused me the first time I did it. Basically, there are 3 colors of upgrade stones (red, yellow and blue) and you can upgrade your sword with any combination of up to three stones (i.e. 3 red, 2 red and 1 blue, 1 blue 1 red 1 yellow, etc.). When you're upgrading your sword it'll show the standard shop interface, but it;ll show a bunch of different swords. Each one is a possible combination you can make using the stones you have in your inventory. You 'buy' the combination that you want just like any other purchase and then your sword is upgraded. It's a really strange way of doing it and I can't help but wonder if it was somehow a limitation of the engine or if they ran out of time and/or resources to make a proper upgrading interface.

One last thing to point out that seems obvious but I didn't realize until chapter three: in your quest log the ones with the stars next to them are available. I spent a long time in chapter two trying to complete side quests that I couldn't because I didn't realize that. Don't make the same mistake I did!

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Sinatar said:
You're going to pass a game that fits your description of what you like about WRPG's completely, you're going to pass on this game when it's 7 freaking dollars.

You are a crazy person. Get away from me, you probably smell funny.
Sorry, it just doesn't seem to stack up compared to the other RPGs I've played in the presentation department. Presentation is a pretty big deal in RPGs to me since the dialogue, world and story, rather than the action, are the highlights of the genre. :(
 
LCfiner said:
just finished playing another couple hours of Just Cause 2. I think this might be the big game to blow up for me from this sale. I adore it.

the grappling, the parachuting, the incredible vistas on the island as the sunsets behind the mountains. it’s really something special.

it’s still early on so I guess there’s a chance it could screw it all up with a horrible difficulty spike or some BS escort mission but, for now, it’s just making me smile more than anything I’ve played in weeks.
The difficulty can get kind of annoying as the game progresses, but don't hesitate to bump it down to easy if it starts getting frustrating. You won't be missing much, the combat isn't the game's strong point.

All this talk about it is making me want to ignore my growing backlog and pick it up again, despite having put 75 hours into it already. It has plenty of flaws, but it comes together as a really unique package. I hope they can make a sequel -- if JC2 to JC3 is as big of a jump as the one from JC1 to JC2, it'll be my game of the forever.
 

dream

Member
LCfiner said:
just finished playing another couple hours of Just Cause 2. I think this might be the big game to blow up for me from this sale. I adore it.

the grappling, the parachuting, the incredible vistas on the island as the sunsets behind the mountains. it’s really something special.

it’s still early on so I guess there’s a chance it could screw it all up with a horrible difficulty spike or some BS escort mission but, for now, it’s just making me smile more than anything I’ve played in weeks.

Nothing like that happens, I swear. It actually gets better as you unlock more black market items, making it even easier to jump right into the havoc.
 
Aselith said:
This is my original opinion from when I first played it:
"I think I'm almost through the game and I've got to say I really, really like this game. It's definitely flawed in some ways but there are great ideas here and in my opinion it is a better game than ME 1 though maybe not 2 (haven't played it), the gunplay is much more satisfying and I think the writing is a good bit better. And I liked Mass Effect a LOT. AP is less technically polished but better executed.


Better gun play than ME1? I know ME1's combat is clumsy but after playing through it several times, it actually isn't too bad. If AP's gunplay is at least that good than I'm in.
 

Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
Yeef said:
Sorry, it just doesn't seem to stack up compared to the other RPGs I've played in the presentation department. Presentation is a pretty big deal in RPGs to me since the dialogue, world and story, rather than the action, are the highlights of the genre. :(

Turn up the radioooo!
 

hamchan

Member
Petrie said:
This stuff is why I will never be able to go full PC. I crave organization and want something that is universal like my 360 damnit. Lame.

You can add non steam games to steam, so you can start them from steam and still have the overlay. Only thing you'd be missing is the playtime tracking.
 

Monroeski

Unconfirmed Member
Dark Stalkers said:
You should definitely buy it.
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Oh you and your damned changing avatar.

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This one.
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Aselith

Member
Felix Lighter said:
Better gun play than ME1? I know ME1's combat is clumsy but after playing through it several times, it actually isn't too bad. If AP's gunplay is at least that good than I'm in.

If you are a person who liked ME I really don't see how you could not like this game unless the subject matter just turns you off.

The only thing I can really see being a big letdown is the lack of AI buddies to connect with. Obviously dudes like Wrex made the characters in ME really shine. However, I think that AP has some really cool characters to offset that like Steve Heck and Brayko.

One other thing to note is that while AP is faily lengthy, you really can't go offscript too much. It's a fairly focused progression (although there is some choice about how you proceed and where you go first etc.) and most of the variability comes in terms of interactions and character set up. You really don't have huge environments to explore or a plethora of side areas. I don't consider ME better in that regard though because most of their extra areas were essentially copy-pasted wastelands.
 

Monroeski

Unconfirmed Member
To be clear, I'm going to be buying at a minimum the standard ME2. I'm trying to talk myself out of the deluxe edition for twice the cost.
 

Vaporak

Member
Yeef said:
[Edit]
Presentation is a pretty big deal in RPGs to me since the dialogue, world and story, rather than the action, are the highlights of the genre. :(

...But dialogue, world, and story are the best parts of alpha protocol; the action isn't exactly the highlight here.
 

DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
Silent Hunter Collection (III and its expansions) is mine. Is Silent Hunter 5 any good? Wikipedia says it got panned hard, but most of the reason for that was the learning curve.
 
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