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2011 Fall Anime Thread - Bad Shows & Self Hating Nerds
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So, started watching Fairy Tail a couple weeks ago, have a question that goes into S2 spoiler territory:
Does the Erza/Jeral/everyone is a slave shit ever stop? Feels like the tower backstory well ran dry awhile ago, but new shitty slave villains keep popping up. Used to enjoy Ezra as a character but now I know every scene with her will be played thick with melodrama.
Crash Station
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Lyphen said:
Haven't been any since the Oracion Seis arc IIRC, but that doesn't mean the plot point won't be referenced again. Jelal and Ultear are pretty central figures to the series.
firehawk12
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I would say the original broadcast order for season 1, but I suppose that doesn't matter much anymore.wonzo said:
Holy Mr. Amemiya's (plus Mr. Imaishi) Super Robots! No plots, no canon... a little bit as in episode 1, a complementary perspective, only with the idols doing their job... and what an amount of liberties this gives! The staff (and eventual friends) know how to take advantage of the moments beyond-the-bounds and own them.
Hellsing321
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wonzo said:
Before the movie came out, I would have said broadcast order. Now it doesn't really matter as much since the movie is such a great end cap for the series.
Penguindrum 14:
Only a few minutes in but...
Edit: What the fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only a few minutes in but...
Oh my God, why do they not want to save anime anymore? Dropping something like that...in the first couple of minutes....no buildup, no hints just...Lesbian.....
Edit: What the fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alright, this I can't abide. Yeah, her name is Yuri. Maybe she has a penis, who knows. But this came out of got'damn nowhere. I don't like it. Not one bit.
Last Exile II
I haven't watched the original series in a long time but this doesn't feel much like I remember Last Exile. It has the same ridiculous Greek transliterations and slightly ropey CG (you'd think nearly a decade later it would be significantly better, but apparently not), but the atmosphere is just totally different.
It's mostly down to the story and characters, but weirdly enough it strikes me as being an artistic thing as well. Clearly there's not quite so much cash behind this one as there was behind the original, but the colour palette seems all wrong - I remember Last Exile as being all greys and swirling mists, at least to start with - lots of washed out colour. Here we're in a much more colourful world.
This reflects the overall mood of the show which is much less interesting. You don't have the sense of being swept up into a grand old mysterious adventure here in the way you did with the old show. Here, Fam is already an adventurer; there's no sense that she's embarking on anything particularly new that she doesn't understand in getting involved in the war.
For me I have to say that the decision to focus on the three teenage girls that seem to be the central cast is unappealing - Fam is happy-go-lucky girl, Giselle is the high-pitched-whiny-neurotic one, and Millia is a typical ojou-sama type. They're not completely unlikeable, but pretty much every other major character has the potential to be more interesting based both on the episode itself and on the hints in the OP.
I guess that I shouldn't let my desire to essentially see the same show again get in the way of enjoying a new one in a similar universe, but this hasn't grabbed me in the same way that the original show's first episode did.
I haven't watched the original series in a long time but this doesn't feel much like I remember Last Exile. It has the same ridiculous Greek transliterations and slightly ropey CG (you'd think nearly a decade later it would be significantly better, but apparently not), but the atmosphere is just totally different.
It's mostly down to the story and characters, but weirdly enough it strikes me as being an artistic thing as well. Clearly there's not quite so much cash behind this one as there was behind the original, but the colour palette seems all wrong - I remember Last Exile as being all greys and swirling mists, at least to start with - lots of washed out colour. Here we're in a much more colourful world.
This reflects the overall mood of the show which is much less interesting. You don't have the sense of being swept up into a grand old mysterious adventure here in the way you did with the old show. Here, Fam is already an adventurer; there's no sense that she's embarking on anything particularly new that she doesn't understand in getting involved in the war.
For me I have to say that the decision to focus on the three teenage girls that seem to be the central cast is unappealing - Fam is happy-go-lucky girl, Giselle is the high-pitched-whiny-neurotic one, and Millia is a typical ojou-sama type. They're not completely unlikeable, but pretty much every other major character has the potential to be more interesting based both on the episode itself and on the hints in the OP.
I guess that I shouldn't let my desire to essentially see the same show again get in the way of enjoying a new one in a similar universe, but this hasn't grabbed me in the same way that the original show's first episode did.
I want old crazy Dio back ASAP. Bring on the inevitable reveal that the Ades Federation is the Guild! Plus we know we'll be seeing Alistia, Tatiana and Alvis again - but what of Claus and Lavi?
Guilty Crown 01 - I'll say this, I really liked the song at the start. Sure, the lead seems a little wimpy now but, hey, I imagine/hope through the course of things that he'll grow into a real person.
I expected worse with some of the reactions; nothing seemed too offensive, really. Things look interesting and I'm curious to see where it goes. Plus, datInori and supercell.
I expected worse with some of the reactions; nothing seemed too offensive, really. Things look interesting and I'm curious to see where it goes. Plus, datInori and supercell.
BluWacky said:
At least part of that has been due to them streaming through Hulu, and their Youtube content does, at least, tend to be unlocked when they have UK rights to the show (which they have an alarming habit of picking up and doing nothing with).
But, yeah, it's nice that this stuff is becoming more available for those in the Americans (even if NNDs current streaming standards leave a lot to be desired), but the increased market fragmentation is starting to get rather worrying for those of us elsewhere in the world.
Dedication Through Light
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Lyphen said:
You should hang in there, the anime becomes very rewarding especially with the most recent arc and the arc it has just entered in.
Jex
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Penguin Drum 14
I don't think this was particularly well directed. The obvious short-cuts in animation, combined with poor editing and awkward scene arrangement failed to create a sense of mood or place. Which is pretty dangerous, when you're trying to tell these kind of events. You really need to sell it to the audience. This really failed to do that.
Hmm. Not good.
I guess this is the guy behind episode 11? He really can't do emotional scenes very well, apparently.
I don't think this was particularly well directed. The obvious short-cuts in animation, combined with poor editing and awkward scene arrangement failed to create a sense of mood or place. Which is pretty dangerous, when you're trying to tell these kind of events. You really need to sell it to the audience. This really failed to do that.
I mean, with this kind of content, the instant you do it wrong it goes way overboard. This isn't how you should be doing it.
Hmm. Not good.
I guess this is the guy behind episode 11? He really can't do emotional scenes very well, apparently.
Dynedom said:
She could
just have nothing down there at all
In any case, I don't like it.
There was no foreshadowing of this. It's the weakest reveal so far in this show. What's next? Is Himari a serial killer? Will we find out when she murders Double H?
I like where the series is going with Kanba
doing some dirty work to save Himari
screws Sanetoshi
LordCanti said:
!!!
The greatest thing Ikuhara can do to salvage this is to
cut to after the rape (i.e. Ringo isn't saved) WITHOUT revealing if Yuri is a futanari or not and leaving it as a hanging plot device as to whether Ringo is still a virgin or not (i.e. does Yuri have le penis).
Dynedom said:
I wasn't on the
crazy ass Ringo bandwagon
think her getting raped would be a good plot device.
Yuri seduced her
sudden the change was. She went from zero to rapist in an episode. Ringo went from stalker to rapist over the course of weeks. Not nearly the same
Not one of the best episodes for me.
Oh and... Initial D, that is all.
Penguins 14
Well this is a rather interesting direction to go in.
Story details aside, the execution for a good part of this episode just wasn't there and that's unfortunate.
Well this is a rather interesting direction to go in.
I'm no yuri (the genre(?), not the person) fan, but I do like the idea of taking the whole "Ringo wanting to be Momoka" story they built up and completely turning it on its head. Will have to see how they followup though.
Story details aside, the execution for a good part of this episode just wasn't there and that's unfortunate.
Jex
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[Penguin Drum 14]
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On a separate note, I can't say that I'm pleased with how the show portrayed
I don't think that's entirely a pacing issue, so much as how you've chosen to read a certain a character.LordCanti said:
I've been thinking that Yuri has been untrustworthy for ages, so this is fine from a story point of view. But I agree, it needed at least one or two episodes focused on it, or the whole episode
On a separate note, I can't say that I'm pleased with how the show portrayed
the lead up to that 'rape' scene. It was far too indulgent and fanservice-y for my liking. It seemed to suggest that the viewer should be excited by this spectacle, so there's some titillation to get you on board. It's really quite unseemly, considering the content.
Momoka now seems a character so influential and prevalent that I don't know what to expect of her anymore!
Yes. I think those short-cuts, as you say, weren't much more obvious than in other episodes, but it was the way the episode was conducted what accentuated that sensation; uninspiring static pans and inefficiently dramatic medium and close shots, again and again. When you start to see how this is being shown instead of thinking what it is trying to achieve with it, you know something is going wrong...Jexhius said:
Jex
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The only way I can describe it is this - the particular direction he (the director) brought to the episode made me feel like I was watching an episode of some random b-grade anime. It did not have that factor which usually makes Penguin Drum feel polished and complete and special./XX/ said:
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