zeroshiki said:I will take any insult hurled at GC but its music is definitely one thing people have to agree is good, right?
As bomb as Hiroyuki is probably doing GC, anything is better with a bit of Secret Base. This is known.
zeroshiki said:I will take any insult hurled at GC but its music is definitely one thing people have to agree is good, right?
No1 has the right to complain about a protagonist of a show if you consider yourself a guilty crown fan.zeroshiki said:Where were you when I was having this argument with the Idolmaster brigade?
I wish I could watch that movie for the first time ever again.wonzo said:Incredibly bizarre and symbolic in an incredibly stylish and fabulous~ way. Definitely one hell of a way to end a movie.
Oh boy.Morro! said:Managed to get some time to finally watch Utena 37
Man, this was all over the place, thewas absolutely nuts. Akio is class as always, can't wait to watch the last 2!poison scene
Lafiel said:No1 has the right to complain about a protagonist of a show if you consider yourself a guilty crown fan.
Producer-san is at least more tolerable than the subject of your avatar..>.>zeroshiki said:You're really going to defend Mr. Producer-san? Have you gone so far down that rabbit hole that you're compelled to do this?
I don't know why they even need the producer, it's not like the fans would complain since he doesn't really fill the direct, first-person self-insert role like in the game apparently. Just have manager-girl as the lead.icarus-daedelus said:I got around to watching id0lm@$ter 4 (which I think Dance in my Blood recommended I check out before dropping the show) and, yeah, it's definitely not for me. Maybe it's that the producer reminds me of a bland ineffectual KEY lead, or the creepiness and weird artificiality of it all. I dunno. It's easy on the eyes, at least - solid if not spectacular. The running frog theme just made me think I'd rather watch more Sgt Frog.
He's not Producer-san. He's honey.zeroshiki said:You're really going to defend Mr. Producer-san? Have you gone so far down that rabbit hole that you're compelled to do this?
My problem with C3 isn't the difference in tones, but that, in the effort to do the early hook, they forgot that the characters are still pretty new for the audience. I cannot take their drama seriously when I've barely known them, and I cannot buy their interactions when they barely know each other. It feels like an epilogue to another animu.darkside31337 said:Cube Cubed - Episode 3
The continuation and resolution of the last episode with thewas really well done and then well there is the rest of the episode.fight scene
A look into Fear's backstory. It was honestly confusing both in terms of actual information and how it was animated. This show is definitely trying to do something artistically compared to the norm, but it really felt like a mess and really was just not very coherent.
This series suddenly feels a whole lot like ef (only not even close to being as good). You can really tell its the same director because the point of this episode was about Fear and hersins. And how she is going to atone for these sins. And everybody else in the show atoning for their sins.
There is such a hard contrast between the two faces of the show. I'm not exactly sure what to make of the series yet. It's not bad but it hasn't been particularly good either. There have been more than a few flashes of a good show though, so I shall give it another few episodes.
This show is also so historically inaccurate it's pretty hilarious. So it at least has that going for it.
Lafiel said:Producer-san is at least more tolerable than the subject of your avatar..>.>
There's not a single female character in Guilty crown that's as good as say yayoi / makoto / chihaya, and despite only two episodes having aired for guilty crown, I doubt it will have a SINGLE female character that will compare to those three, hell I'd even take the worst IM@S girls over Inori at this point.:3zeroshiki said:I'm not sure how you can say this as a defense towards the Idolmaster girls either! How about that?
Well, you know good girls love bad boys.Regulus Tera said:If that is good I wanna be a bad boy.
Lafiel said:There's not a single female character in Guilty crown that's as good as say yayoi / makoto / chihaya, and despite only two episodes having aired for guilty crown, I doubt it will have a SINGLE female character that will compare to those three, hell I'd even take the worst IM@S girls over Inori at this point.:3
Instro said:Tamayura 3
Maon is best girl. Such a feel good show.
Articalys said:Idolmaster 16 was a boring Hibiki episode anyway, a big letdown from the hilarity of last week. Only parts that saved it were a bit of advancement on the main conflict plotline and more hinting at.Chihaya's backstory
At least that's another requisite character spotlight out of the way. Next week we're back to focusing on the superior Makoto anyway.
I'm just curious about what you found necessarily interesting about the character moments? On my end, all I saw were just harem flags being triggered by the protagonist.Miri said:Bokutomo 3
Surprisingly, it was the little character/world building moments like the ones in this ep that made the manga really stand out from the rest its echhi/romcom counterparts, for me, despite even being a bit funnier. So it's safe to say that I'm totally glad to see that they transitioned well, though... dat fanservice, jesus. Sacrifice all tension in the scene for a few shots of Sena's T&A, will you. Sad thing is: that'll probably pay off more than were they to not have focused on the assets...smh.
well thats dropped.cosmicblizzard said:If it's anything like the manga, it's pretty much the most confusing thing you can watch. I hear the anime has very well animated fights though.
firehawk12 said:I'm just curious about what you found necessarily interesting about the character moments? On my end, all I saw were just harem flags being triggered by the protagonist.
Can we keep him, duckroll? Pretty please?GrizzNKev said:Best anime ever is Code Geass. Confusing at times, but always gets to the point. And the ending. Wow.
I'm gonna go ahead and advise you to watch episode 8 before finally dropping it for good. It's really charming and delightful in a cheesy 80's romcom sorta way and by far the best the show has had to offer, imo. Plus the characters all walking archetypes so you don't really need to know anything about them to enjoy it.icarus-daedelus said:Not watching idolmaster!
I dunno. Maybe it was a hype thing. Maybe I'm not lady enough for it.
Nah, you just advised me to skip 2-3 and watch episode 4 before dropping. No biggie, really.
Man, that thread.Regulus Tera said:http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32010720&postcount=6
Can we keep him, duckroll? Pretty please?
Well I was definitely focusing on those assets, that's for sure.Miri said:Bokutomo 3
Surprisingly, it was the little character/world building moments like the ones in this ep that made the manga really stand out from the rest its echhi/romcom counterparts, for me, despite even being a bit funnier. So it's safe to say that I'm totally glad to see that they transitioned well, though... dat fanservice, jesus. Sacrifice all tension in the scene for a few shots of Sena's T&A, will you. Sad thing is: that'll probably pay off more than were they to not have focused on the assets...smh.
How are you going to handle the loli nun?Miri said:You can already see the ending, can't you? Haha. I joke, but so can I, really. And I'm perfectly cool with that. I mean, it's blatantly predictable in all its wiring, but in my current mood, I just find it to provide an enjoyable sense of depth to the situations, but without all the braindrain that so usually comes with the writing that attempts to be a bit more extensive. Kind of like watching a really funny KEY anime, but without all of the tears, and with a protagonist that's... about the same, now that I think on it.
Along with all of that, and its having of archtypes that I dig--for the most part--Bokutomo's just working.
Yeah, that is an interesting question, isn't it...scy said:Well,"Historically" speaking, Matsudaira Motonobu is the name of Tokugawa Ieyasu before he takes that name (he goes through a lot of names, now that I think about it); I'd assume we're keeping with that history here but, hey, they might change it. Or it's a red herring entirely. But, yeah, he doesn't exactly seem all that on the up-and-up, as it were. First showing of him I figured him as the first villain; it wasn't until after I remembered how the name connects to Tokugawa Ieyasu that I questioned it. I'm kind of hoping he's the bad guy, really.
I'm sure she did something, but the Sengoku games often do have to dig a bit to find female characters to give combat roles, sure.I only really know her name from the Sengoku games. I honestly don't know anything about her from history lol.
Well, yeah, a bit. I mean,her looking back over her shoulder didn't seem to be one of enjoyment or happiness; looked at least a bit uneasy. Still, yeah, it's a pretty shitty thing to happen to him. Poor guy.
Oh anime main character status, what does it not bring... (intelligence, for one... but apart from that... ) But yeah, you basically just have to accept that for some odd reason these people, even though they think of him as the joke he is, actually like him. I don't know if it makes sense -- in Ep. 1 I sure didn't like him much -- but it did do a somewhat better job in eps 2 and 3. Still, it is probably a "this is anime, accept it" moment, yeah. There are a lot of those in this show, obviously.I guess. It just struck me as odd for those outside of the class to treat him like that, especially considering his position is basically a joke. But I mean, he is meant to be shown as someone that everyone gets along with and would do (nearly) anything to help; that despite how he is, he's somehow the central character.
In other words, main character status.
Huh, so you were kind of confused too.I'm not sure, really. I mean, I originally thought thatthey're approaching Sakai to get something from him. Alternatively, the "show me" is a command to Futayo to attack instead, considering their reaction after she gets groped (feigning innocence). When this was shown off in the preview, I thought it was going to be something nefarious, not a "lol assgrab" scene. Probably going to discuss it later, I guess.
I think I also saw here people showing their dissatisfaction with the character, no? Although it wasn't a criticism as vicious as in other places. I remember calling myself Mr. Producer "obvious catalyst and bland spectator's vessel", but his harmless presence left aside for the most part of the time makes this blandness pointless enough for everyone interested... what would happen if some possessive fans saw Mr. Producer as a influential character, causing a interference with the idol's cast? I'm sure those making the series thought that is better to leave it like that...zeroshiki said:Where were you when I was having this argument with the Idolmaster brigade?
Well yeah, but that's the point. His character doesn't need to exist in the anime, and if they recognize that enough to make him a minor character, they should just go all the way and eliminate him from the show entirely./XX/ said:I think I also saw here people showing their dissatisfaction with the character, no? Although it wasn't a criticism as vicious as in other places. I remember calling myself Mr. Producer "obvious catalyst and bland spectator's vessel", but his harmless presence left aside for the most part of the time makes this blandness pointless enough for everyone interested... what would happen if some possessive fans saw Mr. Producer as a influential character, causing a interference with the idol's cast? I'm sure those making the series thought that is better to leave it like that...
It probably would have been better without him in it at all.Branduil said:Well yeah, but that's the point. His character doesn't need to exist in the anime, and if they recognize that enough to make him a minor character, they should just go all the way and eliminate him from the show entirely.
Dynedom said:The Guilty Crown Train
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Articalys
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Will update!
I love that commercial so much.PdotMichael said:I'm not alone anymore!
Branduil said:The worst part of this show, though, is the monologues where Shinjuro spews verbal diarrhea in a clunky exposition of the theme of the episode.
Motoko, Mamimi and the nurse-looking chick could get it. Hell, Ed too.Articalys said:I love that commercial so much.
That would have been a good approach if done correctly; strictly-in-the-shadows professional producers without a face, and a show centered only in the relationships between the idols, and their aspirations... but, what kind of series would have been compared to THE IDOLM@STER games? Part of the 'raison d'être' of this games is the building of a professional relationship between you, a recently hired producer, and the idols. Without this kind of similar interactions and unfolding situations replicated in the animated series, what part of the games would have been present on this? Only the idols themselves? And this is where I wonder what kind of experience the fans of the games want from the animated series... something similar to the games or a different approach? If you want to interest the same fans, I suppose you have to offer a parallel solution, being careful of not bothering them in the process.Branduil said:Well yeah, but that's the point. His character doesn't need to exist in the anime, and if they recognize that enough to make him a minor character, they should just go all the way and eliminate him from the show entirely.
Neo C. said:Fav list:
1. Makoto
2. Hibiki
3. Miki
4. Chihaya
The rest is somewhere between 5. and 13.
duckroll said:My intensive research has uncovered that there are an amazing SEVEN cuts worth of traditional 2D animated mecha action in episode 2 of Guilty Crown:
Cut1: Towards the end of the OP, there is a really nice cut of the enemy boss mech launching off. Completely 2D.
Cut2: Right after that, there is a cut of the two leads destroying a grunt enemy mech with the sword. This grunt mech is also 2D.
Cut3:After the OP, when the enemy boss mech attacks the wheelchair moe's mech, there is a cut of wheelchair moe's mech taking damage point blank in front of the camera, this is not CG and looks different in design from the CG model.
Cut4:Right after the previous cut, there's a reaction shot in the cockpit, after that there is another cut of the mech continuing to charge forward at the camera. This is also 2D.
Cut5-7:There is a really nice cut after a bunch of reaction shots following the previous scene of the enemy boss mech charging at the camera (1 cut), then it stabs wheelchair moe's mech (1 cut), and then there's a wide shot showing both mechs, with wheelchair moe's mech impaled on the sword arm of the enemy boss mech (1 cut). All in glorious 2D.
Anime status: SAVED!
PdotMichael said:the five stages of what a shit anime!:
stage three (bargaining)
duckroll said:My intensive research has uncovered that there are an amazing SEVEN cuts worth of traditional 2D animated mecha action in episode 2 of Guilty Crown:
Cut1: Towards the end of the OP, there is a really nice cut of the enemy boss mech launching off. Completely 2D.
Cut2: Right after that, there is a cut of the two leads destroying a grunt enemy mech with the sword. This grunt mech is also 2D.
Cut3:After the OP, when the enemy boss mech attacks the wheelchair moe's mech, there is a cut of wheelchair moe's mech taking damage point blank in front of the camera, this is not CG and looks different in design from the CG model.
Cut4:Right after the previous cut, there's a reaction shot in the cockpit, after that there is another cut of the mech continuing to charge forward at the camera. This is also 2D.
Cut5-7:There is a really nice cut after a bunch of reaction shots following the previous scene of the enemy boss mech charging at the camera (1 cut), then it stabs wheelchair moe's mech (1 cut), and then there's a wide shot showing both mechs, with wheelchair moe's mech impaled on the sword arm of the enemy boss mech (1 cut). All in glorious 2D.
Anime status: SAVED!