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2011 Fall Anime Thread - Bad Shows & Self Hating Nerds

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Jex

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AWO Hundredth Episode Spectacular: Tales of Byston Well: Garzey's wing



That’s right, it’s time to learn all about this legendary work from Gundam Tomino’s own personal saga, the Tales of Byson Well. In which we learn about:

- The aforementioned DVD menu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-0FFe4EB0o

- The lack of convenience stores

- What Tomino thinks about his own epic

- Annoying fairies

- What the plot is actually about

- Where to find a quality dub team on the cheap

- Wikipedia Apologists

- Tomino personally doing every part of the show from the world building to the script to the storyboarding has wondrous results

- YAMATO TAKERU NO MIKOTO!

- How to deal with pain of witnessing Garzey’s Wing
 

faridmon

Member
ugh, I am not liking those detail about HxH, but even with those setbacks, it will still better than 90% of Anime these days.
 

Steroyd

Member
R 15 - END

Don't know why I started watching it.
Don't know why I kept watching it.
Watched more episodes than there were left, so may as well finish it.
 

Jex

Member
darkside31337 said:
I planned on watching that show but then I heard how awesome episode 25 is. Kind of takes away from the awesome if everybody says its awesome. Only so many things can happen that would be considered awesome.
I don't even know what that means, please explain.
 

wsippel

Banned
Thanks to the OP, I discovered Mardock. With part two incoming, this season's already pretty much saved. There simply isn't enough violent, evil shit like that these days from what I can tell. Could have done with a little more badassery, though - but I won't complain. Still, are there any other recent (last five or six years or so) violent action OVAs outisde of this, Hellsing Ultimate and Black Lagoon?
 

faridmon

Member
Steroyd said:
R 15 - END

Don't know why I started watching it.
Don't know why I kept watching it.
Watched more episodes than there were left, so may as well finish it.
You are useful for watching those horrible Animes so please, don't depress yourself. You are helping others like me to avoid it.

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So, should I watch it?
 

Jex

Member
wsippel said:
Thanks to the OP, I discovered Mardock. With part two incoming, this season's already pretty much saved. There simply isn't enough violent, evil shit like that these days from what I can tell. Could have done with a little more badassery, though - but I won't complain. Still, are there any other recent (last five or six years or so) violent action OVAs outisde of this, Hellsing Ultimate and Black Lagoon?
Hmm....not really. Baccano is a pretty crazy series, but I can't think of many OVA's. They aren't really producing many works like that at present because that's not what the otaku market are consuming.
 

wsippel

Banned
I've seen Baccano, and it's not really what I was looking for. Enjoyable show (though I prefer Durarara), but not exactly hard boiled, high violence stuff. Also, TV shows are usually held back by the format, which is why I was asking for OVAs (movies would work as well, of course).
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Jexhius said:
I don't even know what that means, please explain.

It would have to be some kind of big event don't you think? Given the nature of the show that's either some epic amazing battle scene or
some tragic unexpected death
, with the latter way more likely.

I could be off base but thats instantly what I think of when I think of what could be so awesome in a show like this.

I know absolutely nothing about this show other than its Shounen.
 

NewFresh

Member
Nichijou Ep.25

Nichijou, why do you have to go and make me feel feelings? WHY?!

That chase sequence was one of the best scenes in a while.
Mio remains my favorite character of the show. Nano
shut down all future yuri possibilities.


Just one episode left :(
 

Tizoc

Member
Got a question for Gundam GAF: Which is better to watch the original Gundam Zeta anime, or the compilation movies?
Likewise with Turn A Gundam: original series or compilation movies?
 

Sophia

Member
Tizoc said:
Got a question for Gundam GAF: Which is better to watch the original Gundam Zeta anime, or the compilation movies?
Likewise with Turn A Gundam: original series or compilation movies?

Original for both of course!

I'm biased, I have yet to see the compilation movies >_>
 

Geneijin

Member
Uta Pri - 13

What a waste of time all this was.

Besides a few decent character songs and the usual bishounen bait, I don't have much else to say about this show. Although I would have been fascinated with the story if it ever started as
Haruka being a frail person and had poor health but was exceedingly talented in music. It would be the ultimate price for possessing a harem as she helps them succeed, yet she would die soon after their first concert in the ending and her harem will move on and always remember her star or something. Not sure why I suddenly thought of that now than before. I blame her grandmother reminding me of her condition.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
I'm not sure what you were expecting out of a show involving the use of excessively cute music idols who only exist as weird creepy fanservice for the sole intention of selling merchandise but I'm sorry you didn't get what you wanted out of that show.

Honestly I'm starting to come around a bit on it, Idolmaster is kinda decent. It's a lot better than Uta Pri.
 
Hela said:
Sket Dance 23 - I think I'm gonna stop watching it after that. It's just weird, not really very funny.

Aw, I thought that episode was quite adorable and amusing. I had been waiting for
the shrink juice to return
.

But you should at least watch episodes 24 and 25 before deciding to quit the show; they're worth watching.

darkside31337 said:
I know absolutely nothing about this show other than its Shounen.

Sket Dance is a comedy.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
hosannainexcelsis said:
Sket Dance is a comedy.

Gintama is also a comedy. It runs in WSJ as does Sket Dance. It's still shounen. I'll check it out but it didn't help that nobody has told me I was completely wrong yet.
 

Steroyd

Member
Hanasaku Iroha - END

A nice solid end to the series, with everything resolved, can't take this type of thing for granted.
 
darkside31337 said:
Gintama is also a comedy. It runs in WSJ as does Sket Dance. It's still shounen. I'll check it out but it didn't help that nobody has told me I was completely wrong yet.

Right, I know it's shounen; I was just trying to clarify what kind of shounen it was since you implied you didn't know.

I'm not going to spoil anything for you, but even if you did have ahead of time a general idea of what was going to happen, I don't understand why that would make the show worse. It's the execution that makes the episode worth watching.
 

Dynedom

Member
Marrshu said:
Original for both of course!

I'm biased, I have yet to see the compilation movies >_>

But don't the movies retcon Gundam ZZ out of existence? That alone might be worth the price of admission!
 

Geneijin

Member
Thoraxes said:
Is it worth it to watch if I just want to hear Wakamoto do something? I don't even care about the show, I just like Wakamoto's voice.
I'll now add 13 to the list of episodes (1, 5, 8, 10, and 12). He only makes a brief appearance in those episodes, so I wouldn't recommend watching the show even if you're a fan of Wakamoto since he has little screen time in it.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
hosannainexcelsis said:
Right, I know it's shounen; I was just trying to clarify what kind of shounen it was since you implied you didn't know.

I'm not going to spoil anything for you, but even if you did have ahead of time a general idea of what was going to happen, I don't understand why that would make the show worse. It's the execution that makes the episode worth watching.

I mean it's not going to turn me away from the show completely but people pointing and gawking at saying OH MAN EPISODE 25 IS SOME EPIC EPIC STUFF kind of rubs me the wrong way and it's something that will be stuck in the back of my mind while I'm watching the show.

Im going to watch Sket Dance just so I can actually get the Gintama / Sket Dance crossover.
 
darkside31337 said:
I mean it's not going to turn me away from the show completely but people pointing and gawking at saying OH MAN EPISODE 25 IS SOME EPIC EPIC STUFF kind of rubs me the wrong way and it's something that will be stuck in the back of my mind while I'm watching the show.

Did you also get annoyed when people said to keep watching Madoka through episode 3?

Anyway, I can tell you this much: episodes 24-25 cover Switch's backstory and all the manga readers agree that the backstories are the best part of Sket Dance.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
hosannainexcelsis said:
Did you also get annoyed when people said to keep watching Madoka through episode 3?

Anyway, I can tell you this much: episodes 24-25 cover Switch's backstory and all the manga readers agree that the backstories are the best part of Sket Dance.

Thankfully I already had seen it before it became a thing, but there's a certain specific
GAINAX
series that lost a ton of impact on me because people were pointing out the episode number where something happened.
 

qcf x2

Member
Well, this season looks like the worst in a while, which is saying something. But thanks to the OP I'm gonna go check out Mardock and Squid Girl. Sign of the times...
 

Jex

Member
Tizoc said:
Got a question for Gundam GAF: Which is better to watch the original Gundam Zeta anime, or the compilation movies?
Likewise with Turn A Gundam: original series or compilation movies?
I haven't seen the movies for Zeta but I'm told that they are supposed to be better.

As for ∀ Gundam, watch the original.
 

Sophia

Member
Dynedom said:
But don't the movies retcon Gundam ZZ out of existence? That alone might be worth the price of admission!

You're right.... *makes mental note to watch movies*

And yes. Fate/Zero shall save anime this season. And no, I'm clearly in no way biased. Not at all! >_>
 
Nichijou 26

I'll agree with what others have said. It wasn't a fantastic ending to the show, but it was good. I kind of wish they had gone with ridiculously over-the-top Nichijou for the ending rather than heartwarming Nichijou. But I suppose that wouldn't have fit thematically.

All and all, I really enjoyed the show throughout. I actually did find it funny, and I laughed out loud more than I usually do for comedies. Of course, I can also praise Nichijou's animation, music, and family friendly rather than otaku-pandering nature, but I guess other people have already gone over that. A fun show, worth the watch, but I don't have much else to add.
 
Geneijin said:
Uta Pri - 13

What a waste of time all this was.

Besides a few decent character songs and the usual bishounen bait, I don't have much else to say about this show. Although I would have been fascinated with the story if it ever started as
Haruka being a frail person and had poor health but was exceedingly talented in music. It would be the ultimate price for possessing a harem as she helps them succeed, yet she would die soon after their first concert in the ending and her harem will move on and always remember her star or something. Not sure why I suddenly thought of that now than before. I blame her grandmother reminding me of her condition.

The show worked best when seen in a light to advertise for STARISH.
Although Haruka's condition and her rise was touching, though that plot you propose would have made the plot stronger. However, I feel like Ichinose's plot point was stronger than hers
 

Jex

Member
[Hanasaku Iroha Finale]

Well, that wraps things up for this show. I'm pretty satisfied with this finale, which thankfully secures the whole show as 'good' rather than one of numerous works that fall apart completely by the end.

Sadly there was very little to harp about in terms of direction/cinematography but with the dissapreance of Ando early on in the show I wasn't expecting much. As for the story
I'm really pleased with how things turned out. While they failed to revolutionize the world they also avoided going down the really cliched and predictable route. Good stuff.

This is a show which had no choice but to rest upon it's characters. I mean, their day to day activities are running a inn, which isn't inherently exciting or fantastical or imaginative, so that can't really be a 'hook'. Well, I suppose it could have been, in a Spice and Wolf fashion, but they didn't really go there. Luckily the show does a solid job in fleshing out and developing the characters, so that we care about their lives and actions. It's pretty basic storytelling, but they executed it competently.

The Inn, while not an inherently fascinating location, was a hundred times more interesting then another school setting. I'm so glad they largely kept away from school related nonsense and it made the show feel different, even if it was not a radical departure from the norm in terms of character types. It certainly helped that there was a number of adults who were actual characters, not just another teenager focused anime.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Marrshu said:
You're right.... *makes mental note to watch movies*

And yes. Fate/Zero shall save anime this season. And no, I'm clearly in no way biased. Not at all! >_>

It's not bias, it's just heightened expectations! Nothing wrong with that.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Jexhius said:
[Hanasaku Iroha Finale]

I'm really pleased with how things turned out. While they failed to revolutionize the world they also avoided going down the really cliched and predictable route. Good stuff.
I was really, really expecting a title card after the credits. I'm glad whoever was in control of this episode restrained themselves. :p

All I can really say is that this would have been much better as a movie. If this were a 2 hour film, a lot of the overall shallowness of the characters and the writing in general could have been swept under the rug with the nice scenery porn/Stranger-esque direction.

I don't think this finale saves the show as a whole, but at least the finale was much more well considered than I expected it to be.
 
darkside31337 said:
Gintama is also a comedy. It runs in WSJ as does Sket Dance. It's still shounen. I'll check it out but it didn't help that nobody has told me I was completely wrong yet.
Its basically Gintama set in a high school with no aliens or supernatural elements what so ever.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Hellsing321 said:
Its basically Gintama set in a high school with no aliens or supernatural elements what so ever.

That doesn't sound very interesting. Does it have an awesome Kugiloli?

But none the less I shall check it out.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
darkside31337 said:
That doesn't sound very interesting. Does it have an awesome Kugiloli?

But none the less I shall check it out.
I'm going to wait for this Sket Dance x Gintama episode to check out Sket Dance proper... still no clue when that will happen though.
 
Hellsing321 said:
Its basically Gintama set in a high school with no aliens or supernatural elements what so ever.

I wouldn't say no supernatural elements whatsoever...

darkside31337 said:
That doesn't sound very interesting. Does it have an awesome Kugiloli?

No, but it has an awesome Tomokazu Sugita-voiced character!

I wouldn't say Sket Dance is as good as Gintama overall, but it's still worth watching and quite enjoyable, especially the interactions of the main trio.
 
Hela said:
Sket Dance 23 - I think I'm gonna stop watching it after that. It's just weird, not really very funny.

As others have said, please just watch 24 and 25. Then you can drop it. Seriously, it's like a different show.
 

Tizoc

Member
Dynedom said:
But don't the movies retcon Gundam ZZ out of existence? That alone might be worth the price of admission!
I don't really care much about continuity and retcons so I can easily treat it an alt. timeline.

Jexhius said:
I haven't seen the movies for Zeta but I'm told that they are supposed to be better.

As for ∀ Gundam, watch the original.
Thanks, mind elaborating on why the series>compilation movies for Turn A?
 
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