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2011 Fall Anime Thread - Bad Shows & Self Hating Nerds

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Instro

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darkside31337 said:
http://i.imgur.com/uaTNw.gif[img]

[spoiler]Takanashi's feminine alter ego has not shown up thus far :([/spoiler][/QUOTE]
Eh that was kind of an overused joke in the first season to be honest.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
zeroshiki said:
The man hater is the worst part of Working and actually made me drop the show.

I mean, the restaurant would have been sued multiple times if this was at all realistic.

She changes in season 2.
I think the amount of times shes punched somebody in the series thus far can be counted on one hand total. Last episode she didnt punch anybody.

It feels more realistic in S2! The character relationships actually feel believable which they didn't even bother trying to do in S1.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
zeroshiki said:
I mean, the restaurant would have been sued multiple times if this was at all realistic.
It's almost like I'm watching anime or something.
 

trejo

Member
Jexhius said:
You realise things can be done well and things can be done badly, right? You could say Code Geass and Guilty Crown take some similar elements but one really isn't as good as the other.
Sure, but I'm trying to be an ass here.

Jexhius said:
You forgot puns in all their forms.
You're not a hipster. You are a squidding monster.
 

Instro

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Jexhius said:
You forgot puns in all their forms.
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scy

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duckroll said:
It has already ceased to be. Do you see it airing anymore? Neither do I!

Don't follow it so I didn't even notice.

...alright, I noticed a lack of puns.

Steroyd said:
Bokutomo - 04

Oh wow, I tip my hat off to Rika, I never thought you could turn a mecha into that.

UNIVERSE!!!
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Working Prime 3: Corruption 03: Kozue-neechan is such a bitch. Small boobs have their appeal too. :(

I'm not sure if I can say this is better than anything that came up in series 1, but that punchline was fucking worth it. Chicken soup for the jaded animu fan.
 

zeroshiki

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Dance In My Blood said:
It's almost like I'm watching anime or something.

Eh, there's a line even in anime terms between requiring suspension of disbelief and being stupid. The man hater was just annoying. It also doesn't help that the main is one of the worst forms of generic male harem lead out there.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
BokuTomo 4: Haremshit powers are go!

At least it has mecha porn?
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I can't believe dude manages to grab a harem by basically doing nothing. He didn't even have to fall into a girl's crotch or anything amazing like that.
 

iavi

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zeroshiki said:
Eh, there's a line even in anime terms between requiring suspension of disbelief and being stupid. The man hater was just annoying. It also doesn't help that the main is one of the worst forms of generic male harem lead out there.

Katanashi isn't all the worst case of generic harem lead. Like, yeah, not at all. Generic Harem lead is the Kyon, Blandomate from kamimemo, or what's his name from clannad/Kanon/Key. All of them, essentially the same exact character. Then you get the bottom of the barrel like the producer from IM@S, or the MC from P4, which I, myself, wouldn't exactly call generic...yet... but idk.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Miri said:
Katanashi isn't all the worst case of generic harem lead. Like, yeah, not at all. Generic Harem lead is the Kyon, Blandomate from kamimemo, or what's his name from clannad/Kanon/Key. All of them, essentially the same exact character. Then you get the bottom of the barrel like the producer from IM@S, or the MC from P4, which I, myself, wouldn't exactly call generic...yet... but idk.
Well, Katanashi doesn't even have a harem...
 

Sophia

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Guilty Crown - 03

Kinda interesting to have an autistic character for once as the main character.... coulda totally done without the boob scene tho.
Yay for cliffhanger endings
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Miri said:
Katanashi isn't all the worst case of generic harem lead. Like, yeah, not at all. Generic Harem lead is the Kyon, Blandomate from kamimemo, or what's his name from clannad/Kanon/Key. All of them, essentially the same exact character. Then you get the bottom of the barrel like the producer from IM@S, or the MC from P4, which I, myself, wouldn't exactly call generic...yet... but idk.

There is no harem in Working. There is literally only one possible romantic pairing involving Katanashi.
 

zeroshiki

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Miri said:
Katanashi isn't all the worst case of generic harem lead. Like, yeah, not at all. Generic Harem lead is the Kyon, Blandomate from kamimemo, or what's his name from clannad/Kanon/Key. All of them, essentially the same exact character. Then you get the bottom of the barrel like the producer from IM@S, or the MC from P4, which I, myself, wouldn't exactly call generic...yet... but idk.

Kyon was kinda of refreshing when he first came on the scene. He wasn't a weakling who can't decide anything ever. He was jaded and cynical which was something new. Then everyone decided to get on the Tomokazu Sugita train and ruined the character retroactively.

Is it really so hard to find a likable lead with a personality?
 

Sophia

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zeroshiki said:
Kyon was kinda of refreshing when he first came on the scene. He wasn't a weakling who can't decide anything ever. He was jaded and cynical which was something new. Then everyone decided to get on the Tomokazu Sugita train and ruined the character retroactively.

Is it really so hard to find a likable lead with a personality?

It is when for every good lead we have about ten shows that copy that and ruin it. :\
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
zeroshiki said:
Kyon was kinda of refreshing when he first came on the scene. He wasn't a weakling who can't decide anything ever. He was jaded and cynical which was something new. Then everyone decided to get on the Tomokazu Sugita train and ruined the character retroactively.

Is it really so hard to find a likable lead with a personality?
They all have the same nice guy personality though?
 

zeroshiki

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firehawk12 said:
They all have the same nice guy personality though?

I didn't say he was completely different! But at least he's not some dude who never says anything, never decides but still has cool powers and girls falling all over him.

GRRR

You can tell I'm still pissed off by Guilty Crown 3.

Marrshu said:
It is when for every good lead we have about ten shows that copy that and ruin it. :\

Surprisingly, there haven't been many Lelouch copycats.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
zeroshiki said:
I didn't say he was completely different! But at least he's not some dude who never says anything, never decides but still has cool powers and girls falling all over him.

GRRR

You can tell I'm still pissed off by Guilty Crown 3.
Dude, that's anime. When it comes to romance, it's almost all nice guy power fantasies for men and pure girl power fantasies for women.
 

Sophia

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zeroshiki said:
Surprisingly, there haven't been many Lelouch copycats.

Probably because it's pretty fucking difficult to actually write someone like Lelouch. Gai from Guilty Crown is the closest they've gotten so far.... and given what Guilty Crown basically is... Yeah.

Meanwhile, ripping off the average jerk with a heart of guild or Tsundere, but putting in half the effort, is far easier.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Working Prime Hunters 04: Oh my, things are starting to move.

So Takanashi likes Poplar for being small and cute but Poplar only likes she-Takanashi. Inami likes Takanashi, but Takanashi believes that Inami likes someone else. Neet-oneechan doesn't want Inami Poplar to date Takanashi, while Nazuna is trying to be positive about Takanashi's relationship with Inami. Inami knows about Sato's feelings for Yachiyo, who loves the manager, but the manager doesn't like her that way. At the same time, Yachiyo is starting to like Sato. Oh, and Yamada wants to hump everyone

More or less?
zeroshiki said:
The man hater is the worst part of Working and actually made me drop the show.

I mean, the restaurant would have been sued multiple times if this was at all realistic.
A woman jumped out of a manhole and took a carton of milk out of her bra. Realistic my arse.
zeroshiki said:
Eh, there's a line even in anime terms between requiring suspension of disbelief and being stupid. The man hater was just annoying. It also doesn't help that the main is one of the worst forms of generic male harem lead out there.
Since when is Working!! a harem?!
 

Gila

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Guys, dunno if this question h s already been answered

Where can I watch bleach on my iPad? I have the crunchyroll app, but it won't let me go to previous episodes. I remember I left off at episode 224, and it doesn't go that far back on crunchyroll :(

Any idea?
 
zeroshiki said:
I didn't say he was completely different! But at least he's not some dude who never says anything, never decides but still has cool powers and girls falling all over him.

GRRR

You can tell I'm still pissed off by Guilty Crown 3.
Not to late too Become a wolf and jump on the Ben-To train.
 

zeroshiki

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firehawk12 said:
Dude, that's anime. When it comes to romance, it's almost all nice guy power fantasies for men and pure girl power fantasies for women.

See, this is why I watch shoujo. At least I get variety in my knights in shining armor!

Marrshu said:
Probably because it's pretty fucking difficult to actually write someone like Lelouch. Gai from Guilty Crown is the closest they've gotten so far.... and given what Guilty Crown basically is... Yeah.

Meanwhile, ripping off the average jerk with a heart of guild or Tsundere, but putting in half the effort, is far easier.

Sadly true. But Lelouch was super successful so they could have done lame copycats! I'm honestly surprised.

flawfuls said:
That is a weird thing to say when Lelouch is a copycat Light.

There's quite a bit of difference between but I'll grant that they're both "megalomaniac nutsos wielding immense power". Given that both those series were crazy popular, how come we haven't seen followups, then?
 

Sophia

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I almost get the impression that the industry is afraid of making followups to super successful shows... Guilty Crown's pretty much the closest to Code Geass since Code Geass, and it's even mirroring it in episode quality. Not that I mind, because of how high the production values have been.
 

Instro

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zeroshiki said:
There's quite a bit of difference between but I'll grant that they're both "megalomaniac nutsos wielding immense power". Given that both those series were crazy popular, how come we haven't seen followups, then?
Well, there's the MC from fapnote.
 

iavi

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firehawk12 said:
Well, Katanashi doesn't even have a harem...

Lol, gotta catch em all though?

zeroshiki said:
Kyon was kinda of refreshing when he first came on the scene. He wasn't a weakling who can't decide anything ever. He was jaded and cynical which was something new. Then everyone decided to get on the Tomokazu Sugita train and ruined the character retroactively.

Is it really so hard to find a likable lead with a personality?

They are likable, safe even, and that's the thing. I can agree on the idea of the archetypes stagnation, but to expect better characters at this point it to basically expect much better writing... and who the fuck am I kidding?

Also, just to stay on track, I still don't feel as if Katanashi fits that mold, bro. He's no deep character, but to say that he's a mold from the template isn't exactly fair.
 

Articalys

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Mawaru Penguindrum 16

What the whatting what did I just watch.

MASAKO EPISODE YAY
So much random comedy interspersed with WTF moments
 

zeroshiki

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Miri said:
Lol, gotta catch em all though?



They are likable, safe even, and that's the thing. I can agree on the idea of the archetypes stagnation, but to expect better characters at this point it to basically expect much better writing... and who the fuck am I kidding?

Shoujo (or slice of life) has much better variety for their leads which I guess goes to show that the industry itself focuses too much on the women. The males are interchangeable.

For example, Ohana is a genki girl but she's different compared to a normal genki girl haremette.

firehawk12 said:
Too bad the girls are almost always boring. :(

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trejo

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Regulus Tera said:
More or less?
I don't think Takanashi likes Poplar "that way"; he just likes things that are small and cute. And NEET sister thinks Takanashi is in a relationship with Poplar, not Inami, which makes her worried his bro might turn into a lolicon.
 

zeroshiki

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Marrshu said:
Well, he did say almost always boring. >_>

There are 2 main shoujo archetypes. The super strong woman who still needs saving (Tsukushi from HYD, Ayukawa from Kaichou wa Maid, etc) or the dojikko weakling that needs to be saved always (all shoujo ever). They at least mix them up compared to shounen.
 

LordCanti

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Penguin 16:

My mind is so full of fuck right now.

Who
took the world from Sanetoshi? Momoka? Kanba's parents when they did the "event"?

The only takeaway I can come up with now is that
the Looney Toons style "Sign Gag" was epic

The more I think about it, the more I wonder if
Himari isn't The Hat, in some way. Her sexy photoshoot with the maid really reminded me of that episode where Himari was sexing up that cabbage. I guess the theory has always been that it's Momoka, but the Momoka from the flashbacks doesn't seem to fit the personality of the hat/princess.
 

flawfuls

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zeroshiki said:
There's quite a bit of difference between but I'll grant that they're both "megalomaniac nutsos wielding immense power". Given that both those series were crazy popular, how come we haven't seen followups, then?

Everyone decided it was easier to followup infinite stratos.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
zeroshiki said:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/shikiroa/kimi0302.png[img][/quote]
[quote=Marrshu]Well, he did say [b]almost[/b] always boring. >_>[/quote]
Sawako is the obvious exception!

[quote=zeroshiki]There are 2 main shoujo archetypes. The super strong woman who still needs saving (Tsukushi from HYD, Ayukawa from Kaichou wa Maid, etc) or the dojikko weakling that needs to be saved always (all shoujo ever). They at least mix them up compared to shounen.[/quote]
Well, there was School Days. But that's offending the audience too much, I'm sure.
 
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