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[Dresden]

Great post if you've been even slightly interested in animu sales in the past. I always like it when people obsessively pursue some obscure facet of their hobby to such exacting detail.

Also:

And just for the hell of it, totals (not adjusting for volume or episode count) of completed (or only 1-2 left) shows topping ¥1 billion from Summer '08 season to present:

¥3,558,459,450 Bakemonogatari
¥2,888,726,400 K-ON!! (2 cour)
¥2,309,061,300 K-ON!
¥2,029,893,600 Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica
¥1,499,645,700 Durarara!! (2 cour)
¥1,482,448,275 To Aru Kagaku no Railgun (2 cour)
¥1,415,086,050 Angel Beats!
¥1,358,193,900 Ore no Imouto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai
¥1,281,284,130 Kidou Senshi Gundam 00 S2 (2 cour)
¥1,269,370,620 Clannad ~After Story~ (2 cour)
¥1,230,564,090 Hagane no Renkinjutsushi (2009) (5 cour)
¥1,026,657,765 Infinite Stratos

Shaft and Kyoani saved anime.

 

[PdotMichael]

I like the red-haired girl but I never watched an episode of Ano Hana.

 

[darkside31337]

I feel we need to have AnoHana defence force here. Who is with me?

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I'm in. Just don't tell anybody else.

 

[faridmon]

I think you're all alone here. Lol. Everyone else is either banned, or has seen the error of their ways!

I blame you and your pathetic Peneguin troops...

 

[InfiniteNine]

See the problem here is that Key art is not mediocre, it is hideous and awful. This might work for other anime, but not Key anime.

The thing is the art isn't a really a good determining factor at all. If the core story isn't entertaining all the fancy artwork in the world wouldn't keep me watching.

 

[NewFresh]

I think you're all alone here. Lol. Everyone else is either banned, or has seen the error of their ways!

I blame you and your pathetic Peneguin troops...

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I'm in. Just don't tell anybody else.

I'm in.

You will have to cleanse us of this pestilence once again

 

[Dresden]

I blame you and your pathetic Peneguin troops...

 

[Nonoriri]

The thing is the art isn't a really a good determining factor at all. If the core story isn't entertaining all the fancy artwork in the world wouldn't keep me watching.

I think that the art isn't really the end all be all, but shit I'd much rather look at something good looking, than something hideous. Especially for a prolonged period of time.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

Plus >Key >Statisfying story

Would you like it better if I said I preferred characters I care about with mediocre art to characters I don't care about at all with good art?

See the problem here is that Key art is not mediocre, it is hideous and awful. This might work for other anime, but not Key anime.

I had no problem staring at Key art for the 60+ hours I spent playing the Clannad VN, so I can't agree with you there. Of course it's not a looker, but it's not offensive to my eyes either.

 

[MotionBlue]

Dantalian no Shoka 11

Dantalian has been a series where each episode was either amazing, or average. This episode is the former,

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we learn Huey's backstory. Learn the arch-nemesis. Learn how Phantom books are made.

This show is 12 episodes, and is only now getting into the meat of the overarching plot, I hope a second season is confirmed.

 

[Lain]

I like the red-haired girl but I never watched an episode of Ano Hana.

Just read the doujinshi about Anaru and you're set. She gives the best of her there.

 

[Risette]

This is worse than mediocre, it's really awful art!

 

[faridmon]

Just read the doujinshi about Anaru and you're set. She gives the best of her there.

I have to say though, Anaru is the worst character in the series. She is hot though...

what is the next project for that team? anyone know?

http://i.imgur.com/3awll.jpg[IMG]/[QUOTE]

I don't get it :(

 

[Nonoriri]

Would you like it better if I said I preferred characters I care about with mediocre art to characters I don't care about at all with good art?

I had no problem staring at Key art for the 60+ hours I spent playing the Clannad VN, so I can't agree with you there. Of course it's not a looker, but it's not offensive to my eyes either.

On the first point, well sure. One the second, the main girl in Clannad looks like a bug, it's frightening!

 

[InfiniteNine]

I think that the art isn't really the end all be all, but shit I'd much rather look at something good looking, than something hideous. Especially for a prolonged period of time.

I'd rather spend my time with something ugly and entertaining, than something decent and mind numbingly boring. Artwork doesn't measure entertainment value.

 

[Clairvoyance]

I don't get it

Poppo=Best
Anaru=Worst

And I'm guessing he means you're salty about the Penguins.

 

[Nonoriri]

I'd rather spend my time with something ugly and entertaining, than something decent and mind numbingly boring. Artwork doesn't measure entertainment value.

Aesthetics can be entertaining! Like in Nichijou for example all the best gags are purely visual gags and are visually engaging and the entertainment is derived solely from said visuals. I'd rather not look at something through a lens of ugly in the hope of finding something good, at least most of the time.

I mean people here think Kemonozume is totally ugly, but I think it is neat looking! :>

 

[Uchip]

And I'm guessing he means you're salty about the Penguins.

it means penguin tastes better salted

 

[jman2050]

This is worse than mediocre, it's really awful art!

KEYFACE)@$@GLDTQFEJAH6.

 

[Risette]

At least Keyart isn't this awful:

 

[duckroll]

You will have to cleanse us of this pestilence once again

Saya is already protecting each and every one of them.

 

[Thoraxes]

Poppo=Best
Anaru=Worst

And I'm guessing he means you're salty about the Penguins.

Did you read the Poppo, uh... story... that someone wrote about how he needed to help Menma get to heaven?

I was never able to be serious about the show again.

 

[Articalys]

On the first point, well sure. One the second, the main girl in Clannad looks like a bug, it's frightening!

I'm still not 100% sure what the visual appeal of ahoge is supposed to be.

 

[Dresden]

At least Keyart isn't this awful:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18877092/EWWWWWWWWWWVOMIT.jpg

Hamhands have charm man.

 

[Nonoriri]

At least Keyart isn't this awful:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18877092/EWWWWWWWWWWVOMIT.jpg

I dunno man, I've been told that this is "charming" or something like that. lolz

 

[Uchip]

At least Keyart isn't this awful:
higurashi?

is this from the game or something
I dont remember it looking that awful (by a close margin)

 

[faridmon]

I really love the art as well:

 

[duckroll]

I'm still not 100% sure what the visual appeal of ahoge is supposed to be.

It's cockroach moe without actually going as far as Gokicha.

 

[Nonoriri]

I'm still not 100% sure what the visual appeal of ahoge is supposed to be.

Well Clannad-girl is the unfortunate victim of DOUBLE-ahoge, and I'm sure that enhances the problem.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

At least Keyart isn't this awful:/QUOTE]

Dem hands.

 

[InfiniteNine]

At least Keyart isn't this awful:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18877092/EWWWWWWWWWWVOMIT.jpg[img][/QUOTE]
This is a good example of not judging entertainment value from looks. I've really enjoyed Higurashi despite it's looks.

 

[Clairvoyance]

Did you read the Poppo, uh... story... that someone wrote about how he needed to help Menma get to heaven?

I was never able to be serious about the show again.

Spoiler

Thankfully,

no. I was going to google search it but my instincts are telling me not to.

 

[PdotMichael]

Playing Gameboy Advance games is not moe.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

I dunno man, I've been told that this is "charming" or something like that. lolz

I've only seen "charming" used to refer to Umineko's sprites, not Higurashi's, which are very bad indeed. Though even in Higurashi, Ryukishi shows a talent for drawing faces which are very expressive of a character's emotional or psychological state.

Would I like better art? Sure. But when the story is as good as it is in Higurashi and Umineko, I'm not going to reject them just because the writer is a poor artist.

 

[NewFresh]

Playing Gameboy Advance games is not moe.

It is extremely moe~

If only that had been playing on a Gameboy Micro! Hnnnnnnnnngggggg!

 

[Vox-Pop]

Great post if you've been even slightly interested in animu sales in the past. I always like it when people obsessively pursue some obscure facet of their hobby to such exacting detail.

Also:


Shaft and Kyoani saved anime.

Yup, can wait for K-On!!! in 2013. Was Bakemonogatari popular here? Pretty impressive sales.

 

[faridmon]

Just read through the OP for teh first time:

Wow, some of you, (translation: most of you) are really quite nagtive. Come on people, you suppose to like Rubbish Anime...

I'll be watching:
- Hunter X Hunter
- Un-Go

and maybe
- Guilty Crown (never liked Mecha, but lets see how it goes)

Playing Gameboy Advance games is not moe.

Thank god!

 

[NotebookJ2]

At least Keyart isn't this awful:

You gotta give R07 credit for drawing some of the best trollfaces ever in Umineko, which is quite an improvement over Higurashi, even if the blockhands still exist.

However nothing can ever beat ZUNart... nothing.

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is it just me or does every anime discussion topic here makes a reference to key art in some way

 

[duckroll]

Please stop trying to make people go blind here. This is anime-gaf, not stabyoureyes-age.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I'm not sure what you win if you successfully find the worst art and post it.

 

[Thoraxes]

Please stop trying to make people go blind here. This is anime-gaf, not stabyoureyes-age.

Re-quoting from 2 pages back.

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I still can't stop laughing

 

[Nora Kisaragi]

Re-quoting from 2 pages back.

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I still can't stop laughing

My reaction.

 

[Geneijin]

I would really put Anohana above, just because how Iroha failed to live up to the expectation of that great first episode. If your series is going to be mediocre, please, don't set your bar high by creating a good pilot.

I would say the same for AnoHana with how the series turned out overall.

At least it decided to come up with a great idea about past, connection and social interaction.

And it lacked execution. That doesn't somehow make the show good because the idea was a good idea and was appealing to you.

I just don't get how inconsistant some of you are (the ones who bother to discuss this matter), Aren't many Anime out there just like Anohana where not much devoloping happnes and decide to pomder the same thing over and over again?

It doesn't dissuade me from thinking about how disappointing AnoHana has been by its own qualities, separate from whatever number of other bad shows there may have been before it.

 

[PdotMichael]

lets talk about gear of war

why, we have no more school girls with big weapons against ugly aliens animes?

 

[Instro]

Dantalian 11
Certainly one of the better episodes in the series, although I had to laugh at the basketball scene.

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Giant smoke monster reminded me of The Anti-Spiral

 

[NotebookJ2]

Please stop trying to make people go blind here. This is anime-gaf, not stabyoureyes-age.

I'm so sorry. I just had to do it.

why, we have no more school girls with big weapons against ugly aliens animes?

Because moe ruins everything or something.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

lets talk about gear of war

why, we have no more school girls with big weapons against ugly aliens animes?

We need more school girls with big weapons against ugly aliens animes. We really do.

Black Rock Shooter, while it doesn't exactly fit that criteria, actually has the general idea more or less down. I hope the upcoming anime does something useful with the concept.

 

[Geneijin]

I'm bigger than this, I won't mention the character arcs amounting to nothing, the ghost rules being all over the place, which are used when apprpriate to the plot, and a poor attempt at getting the viewer engaged and sympathetic to the casts mental problems using only one single flashback.

I will however say that all but the last episode felt like a waste of time.

Actually, I disagree. The character arcs amounted to nothing but melodrama for the sake of drama with very bare character motivations, the ghost rules were inconsistent and used inappropriately when the plot demanded it with no sleight of hand touch, and the only attempt at engaging the audience was through emotional appeal, which severely lacked substance and was predictably melodramatic nonsense in specific instances.

 

[Instro]

Please stop trying to make people go blind here. This is anime-gaf, not stabyoureyes-age.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

THE IDORUM@STER 12:

Catching up with this now that I've finished the Gears of War 3 campaign.

I'm still not sure if I like this show when it's being serious. When it's being wacky and funny, it's really quite good. When it's trying to be serious, I get a bit uncomfortable. It's hard to imagine anyone seriously thinking that anyone's supposed to be taking it seriously, but ever since episode 11 they have been playing it straight and it just feels off. I actually want them to take a chance and implement

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Awakened Miki

into the storyline, just to see how it would be handled.

Miki completely fails at trying to be tsun. Just don't even try.

LOL at "Your Visual stat increased!" at the end.