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2012-13 Dec NBA Season |OT|Runnin' in da mouf of Serg Abaka daily.

Kevin Love should wait to do some meaningful things in the league before he starts talking like this, I think. He's really good, but still...
 

KingGondo

Banned
Wait until Scotty Brooks starts airing dirty laundry about the Blunder.
Yeah, I'm sure he's terribly upset that he has a huge contract almost entirely because he's lucky enough to be the coach of a team with Durant and Westbrook.

Oh, Adam. Your barbs don't have the same sting anymore. :p
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Sam Bowie said:
"I can still remember them taking a little mallet, and when they would hit me on my left tibia, and 'I don't feel anything' I would tell 'em. But deep down inside, it was hurting. If what I did was lying and what I did was wrong, at the end of the day, when you have loved ones that have some needs, I did what any of us would have done."

You have got to be fucking kidding me.
 

giri

Member
When major media guys are talking about the D-League, something horrifying is happening.

At least Marshall has a chance to go down as the most pure point guard in NBA history if he ever makes it to the NBA. Good passer, unselfish, has court vision, can't defend, can't jump, can't shoot, can't score, can't post, can't rebound. So much purity.

I was saying this after pre-season :|

I could have swore people were slapping the "NBA ready" tag on Kendall Marshall before he was drafted.

yeah I guess not

They were. I bought into it with the draft. But... he didn't upscale to the NBA at all. He's been left so far behind. If he can't get a big boost in physical attributes to compete athletically with the rest of the NBA, he's going to Europe.

Suns can eat a dick.

Beas is just misunderstood and that organization is run by a bunch of idiots.

mis-understood? how so? Not being quick enough to play the 3, and not being big enough to play the 4, while your go to move is a jab step step back jumper, that you shoot worse than Jamison ever did, doesn't really spell "mis-understood". For over 15 games the suns tried to focus the offense through Beasley, he just wasn't good enough.

His most attempted shot is a 16-23 feet (i can tell you it's more like 21-23 feet cause he sucks at getting position) jumper that he's shooting at 33%.

Beasley's game just doesn't translate to the NBA, and he's never developed it. Never added anything. He's still atrocious defensively, has no understanding of the half court offense.

I'm not sure how that is on anyone but him.

Their goal as an organization is to keep runnin on that treadmill and to stay under the cap.

They don't really have any end goals other than to make money and be competitive. No focus on big time free agents or tanking.

They are just kinda there right now.

And it was obvious with every move they've been making forever now, from as far back as not paying Joe, kicking quality picks to the curb for money, and to building the treadmill roster that they have now.

What has any of that got to do with Beasley? Nothing? Fine, ok, thanks for showing up.

Beasley has the worst luck in the world.

He deserves a quality organization.

Such as? Like, seriously, where has he got left to go in terms of different situations. Miami, Wolves, Suns. Thats a pretty broad spectrum from east to west of the league, and he hasn't put it together in any system, under any coach, on any team.

I don't know, I think Alvin Gentry is a pretty good coach.

If Beasley can't put it together under Gentry, i'm not sure where he can. Gentry is a fantastic development coach for the most part. He's the one guy that got Amare to play Defense for half a season.
 

SamuraiX-

Member
Kevin Love said:
"And that's on me to do my part, to get us there."
Love admires Adelman, and knows that Adelman had significant input into bringing talent like Andrei Kirilenko to the Wolves.

Love needed to leave his public comments to this and just shut the fuck up. Even DMC has more restraint.

Kevin Love said:
"Randy Wittman told me not to shoot 3-pointers. That got me very uncomfortable. There were certain labels tagged on me very early in my career, spots on the floor where I felt uncomfortable. I continued to put myself out there in those spots."

Oh My God.
 
Randy Wittman only coached for 19 games, in which Love shot 1/10 from 3. The 19 games after Randy was fired he was 0/3. He ended up 2/19 on the year 10.5%

His rookie year aside he's a 36.8% 3 point shooter
 

Srsly

Banned
Love needed to leave his public comments to this and just shut the fuck up. Even DMC has more restraint.



Oh My God.

What's wrong with what Love said? Randy Whitman IS an idiot. There's no reason Love shouldn't take threes unless you buy into the nonsense that big men aren't supposed to even if they're good outside shooters. Love probably knew he was a good 3 point shooter, but his percentage was low under Whitman because he got so few attempts. It's hard to have confidence in a skill even if you're actually good at it when your coach disapproves of using it. And when you don't have confidence in a skill, it's difficult to execute it.
 

SamuraiX-

Member
Randy Wittman only coached for 19 games, in which Love shot 1/10 from 3. The 19 games after Randy was fired he was 0/3. He ended up 2/19 on the year 10.5%

His rookie year aside he's a 36.8% 3 point shooter

The guy wants a championship-contending team built around him.

What keystone centerpiece of any championship team ever was a 3-point shooting power forward?
 

Omega

Banned
The guy wants a championship-contending team built around him.

What keystone centerpiece of any championship team ever was a 3-point shooting power forward?

in his defense, the game is different now than it used to be.

I mean, Kevin Durant is called the second best player in the NBA and he's basically a spot up shooter. 60% of the time the dude does not move from the 3 point line.

it's not farfetch'd to say a championship team could be built around a 3pt shooting PF
 

Srsly

Banned
What about the Celtics? Would they be better if Garnett took 3s (if he was a high percentage 3 point shooter) instead of long 2s?

33% from the 3 point line is equal to 50% from inside the arc.
 

Vahagn

Member
Kevin Love should wait to do some meaningful things in the league before he starts talking like this, I think. He's really good, but still...

The Wolves should wait to do some meaningful things before they act like "no one is greater than the franchise".


Bulls did that with Jordan, and everyone knew it was a mistake. Love ain't no Jordan. But the Wolves aren't Minny either.


Piss off the 2nd best player in your franchises history, after you pissed off the best player in your franchise history in the last decade. If Love leaves, Rubio will be out the door soon too. He already had reservations about going to Minny when he was drafted, he won't wanna stay there when his contract expires.
 
The Chicago Bulls have a chance Tuesday night to wipe away their worst memory of the young season when they host the Los Angeles Clippers.

It was on Nov. 17 when the Bulls squandered a 35-point, second-quarter lead and watched the Clippers run away with a 101-80 victory. It was the Bulls' worst loss of the season.

"No question," Joakim Noah said Tuesday morning about that loss giving the team motivation.

...
 

Vahagn

Member
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...2/11/magic-johnson-rips-lakers-for-poor-play/

At this point, i'll be the first to admit Mike brown was a better option than D'antoni. No lie.

Atleast he knew we were a slow, lazy team and played to those strengths last season. Especially with someone like bynum playing lots of minutes in the rotation.


For Years I always argued (even on this site) that the D'Antoni offense was a bad offensive system because it didn't incorporate the "sound offensive principles" that Tex and Phil talked about. Granted that's their opinion, but I trust a guy with 11 chips who's known for his offensive system whenever he opens his mouth to talk about offense.


Listening to D'Antoni talk, I feel like he really doesn't understand why his teams are so poor defensively and why it's a direct result of his offensive philosophy.
 

giri

Member
The Wolves should wait to do some meaningful things before they act like "no one is greater than the franchise".


Bulls did that with Jordan, and everyone knew it was a mistake. Love ain't no Jordan. But the Wolves aren't Minny either.


Piss off the 2nd best player in your franchises history, after you pissed off the best player in your franchise history in the last decade. If Love leaves, Rubio will be out the door soon too. He already had reservations about going to Minny when he was drafted, he won't wanna stay there when his contract expires.

huh?

I'm sure kahn is a goon and handled it really unprofessionally. But that doesn't they were wrong in what they did, just how they did it.

As soon as a player thinks he should start dictating what trades a team makes, and he hasn't even had 5 years in the league, you know he's getting too full of himself.

The cavs are the classic example.

And their roster this year leaves no excuses once rubio is healthy.
 

Omega

Banned
Have you watched Kevin Durant play a single second in the last two years.

last year he played exactly like that. even during the playoffs people were commenting on how he just stands out there and doesn't do shit

i haven't watched him this year so maybe he does something else once in awhile.
 

h3ro

Member
Wtf? Lakers 9-12? Smh. Thats it, Imma be joining Knicks Age.
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Welcome brother.
 
Alright, I'll admit I spaced on that one. lol

Now if only he could find a situation that could replicate the 2011 Mavs.

A defensive specialist center, an all time great PG who is over the hill, a SF who makes you cringe when he shoots but is a good defender, a questionmark riddled bench and a guard who shoots even when it may not be the best idea to shoot.

Now where could Love find that?
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
Mike Trudell ‏@LakersReporter
Jordan Hill will start at PF tonight. He started 2nd half vs Utah & D'Antoni likes how he's playing. Jamison will come off bench.

Haven't watched the past few games but glad to see Hill will be playing big minutes.
 
Now if only he could find a situation that could replicate the 2011 Mavs.

A defensive specialist center, an all time great PG who is over the hill, a good wing defender, a SF who makes you cringe when he shoots, a questionmark riddled bench and a guard who shoots even when it may not be the best idea to shoot.

Now where could Love find that?

Well, the Knicks already have Amare.



Samurai, that was a typo. ESPN needs to edit articles better.
 

Vahagn

Member
huh?

I'm sure kahn is a goon and handled it really unprofessionally. But that doesn't they were wrong in what they did, just how they did it.

As soon as a player thinks he should start dictating what trades a team makes, and he hasn't even had 5 years in the league, you know he's getting too full of himself.

The cavs are the classic example.

And their roster this year leaves no excuses once rubio is healthy.


Managing an NBA Team means, for better or worse, managing egos. Sometimes handling it poorly is as big of a mistake as doing the wrong tactical signing...especially if it means pissing off your best player. That article doesn't say that Love wanted input in trades or demanded them, he just thinks Kahn is incompetent, which, it seems, he is.


Love knows basic common sense, unless you build a super team, it's going to take a few years of continuity to gel together and begin to contend. They've essentially wasted 3 years of Love's career making bone-headed moves. Getting every single draft choice wrong except for Rubio, hiring the wrong coach for 2 years, stockpiling Bigs and PG's and not getting any good wings.


Heck man, we all look at Kahn's work and see the holes and mistakes in it, you think Love shouldn't have a right to have an opinion?
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Now if only he could find a situation that could replicate the 2011 Mavs.

A defensive specialist center, an all time great PG who is over the hill, a good wing defender, a SF who makes you cringe when he shoots, a questionmark riddled bench and a guard who shoots even when it may not be the best idea to shoot.

Now where could Love find that?

Mavs bench was so deep

No one on the Lakers bench would have cracked normal mins outside of Hill
 

giri

Member
Managing an NBA Team means, for better or worse, managing egos. That article doesn't say that Love wanted input in trades or demanded them, he just thinks Kahn is incompetent, which, it seems, he is.


Love knows basic common sense
, unless you build a super team, it's going to take a few years of continuity to gel together and begin to contend. They've essentially wasted 3 years of Love's career making bone-headed moves. Getting every single draft choice wrong except for Rubio, hiring the wrong coach for 2 years, stockpiling Bigs and PG's and not getting any good wings.


Heck man, we all look at Kahn's work and see the holes and mistakes in it, you think Love shouldn't have a right to have an opinion?

He is STILL against the al jefferson trade.

Lets not go over board here.
 

Vahagn

Member
He is STILL against the al jefferson trade.

Lets not go over board here.

What did the Al Jefferson trade get them? According to the article, misused assets. Al Jefferson was better than Darko, or Randolph, or really even Pek.


Obviously complaining about the Jefferson trade isn't Love's brightest moment. But Kahn botched that too. Kahn's made 2 good decisions, and both were no brainers. Draft Rubio, Hire Adelman.


Every other decision has ranged from meh, to just piss poor.
 
Wha-wha-whhhaauuuuutt??

That actually happened? Can't believe I missed that game.

Somebody must have gotten confused. Without even seeing a breakdown of the leads in the game, the quarters went 15,25,21,19 for the Bulls and 18,35,25,23 for the Clippers. Even if the Clippers went on a 35-0 run in the second quarter, they would have been behind at most 40-18 (22 points).

Edit: Actually, looking at the detailed game breakdown, the only time the Bulls lead was 2-0. That's more than just a typo, that's completely changing what happened in the game.
 

Vahagn

Member
I know I've been harping on this a lot but...


"Get Runouts because poor shots in the sequence ends up without good court balance"


Phil has always maintained that there should always be one or two guards back near or above the 3 point line to prevent transition buckets...literally every triangle offense play incorporates that.


Something that D'Antoni's "put two shooters in the corner, run pick and roll" offense doesn't do. Lakers don't just get scored on in transition because they're old, or the TO's, it's because there's usually no one in position to run back on D.
 

giri

Member
What did the Al Jefferson trade get them? According to the article, misused assets. Al Jefferson was better than Darko, or Randolph, or really even Pek.


Obviously complaining about the Jefferson trade isn't Love's brightest moment. But Kahn botched that too. Kahn's made 2 good decisions, and both were no brainers. Draft Rubio, Hire Adelman.


Every other decision has ranged from meh, to just piss poor.

Pekovic is everything Al is but not a ball hog whiner. And making a lot less.

And they got a good haul of assets in return. They just fucked it up.

The Al trade was a really good trade.

If you're thinking otherwise, you're delusional, but it's not surprising.

If the article was his way to get kahn fired, fine. Other wise, he's just being a whiny bitch. You may want to stop over analyzing and trying to excusably rationalize it.
 
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