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2012-13 Oct/Nov NBA Season |OT| Mavericks Attempt To Defend Title

Eric Gordon


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That running hook Kobe made with 2 min left was sweet. As was the Kobe-Pau-Dwight lob play.

Seeing that Evans flop again, ugh. There is no player in the league I want to retire more than him. Biggest bitch I've ever seen play in the NBA.
 

Forceatowulf

G***n S**n*bi
So ummm... the Lakers were 1 and 4 when Mike Clown was running shit. They're now 5 and 1 since his departure.


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Forceatowulf

G***n S**n*bi
Our competition has been mostly bad, yeah. But we were getting worked by bad teams *cough* Mike Clown era *cough* for a while, and we're dominating them now... that's progress, fellas.

Also Brooklyn was hot. I didn't even know they were on a 5 game winning streak the way people talk shit about them here. You'd think they were Pistons bad reading this place...
 
What a tough run of games they've had too


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eh, beat 4 bad teams comfortably. won a close one against a decent team (would have been more if they hit their FTs)

And then lost by a game winning shot against the Spurs.

the wins are unimpressive given who they beat in general, but how they won is how we expected them to play against the competition, so I'll take it.

Post-Brown I'd say they've done exactly what they should. Pre-Brown, the did not.
 

ISOM

Member
eh, beat 4 bad teams comfortably. won a close one against a decent team (would have been more if they hit their FTs)

And then lost by a game winning shot against the Spurs.

the wins are unimpressive given who they beat in general, but how they won is how we expected them to play against the competition, so I'll take it.

Post-Brown I'd say they've done exactly what they should. Pre-Brown, the did not.

This is all without nash mind you, so I don't know what exactly are people complaining about lakers fan enjoying their wins.
 

ISOM

Member
It'll be interesting to see how the ball handling duties are shared when nash gets back, kobe has been so efficient that I think it should be about 60% of the time kobe has the ball in his hands with 40% being in nash's hands.
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
It'll be interesting to see how the ball handling duties are shared when nash gets back, kobe has been so efficient that I think it should be about 60% of the time kobe has the ball in his hands with 40% being in nash's hands.

really? That pretty much defeats the point of having Nash.

That reminds me of the time Avery took the ball from Kidd's hand
 

ISOM

Member
really? That pretty much defeats the point of having Nash.

That reminds me of the time Avery took the ball from Kidd's hand

It doesn't make sense to have nash handle the ball all the time when you have a prolific scorer and facilitator like kobe. We are not talking about turning nash into a three point specialist either but whatever I guess we'll see what happens when nash comes back.
 

Branduil

Member
It doesn't make sense to have nash handle the ball all the time when you have a prolific scorer and facilitator like kobe. We are not talking about turning nash into a three point specialist either but whatever I guess we'll see what happens when nash comes back.

Yeah you wouldn't want Nash cutting into Kobe's prolific facilitation.
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
I'll never forget how Avery benched Kidd in the last 30 seconds of that San Antonio game, right after we traded for him.

I remember that. And I remember when he wasn't the main ball handler..

It doesn't make sense to have nash handle the ball all the time when you have a prolific scorer and facilitator like kobe. We are not talking about turning nash into a three point specialist either but whatever I guess we'll see what happens when nash comes back.

Kobe is a scorer but not a true facilitator.
 

ISOM

Member
What Lakers-age really means is that Kobe will be unhappy if Nash handles the ball too much, even if it makes the team better.

We were 1-4 when nash was healthy and playing with the starters, We are 5-1 with kobe being the main facilitator. Do you actually know what you are talking about?
 

Branduil

Member
We were 1-4 when nash was healthy and playing with the starters,We are 5-1 with kobe being the main facilitator. Do you actually know what you are talking about?

Yeah I remember when everyone was talking about how Nash was handling the ball too much and they need to run a more egalitarian system like the Princeton or something.
 

ISOM

Member
So there is NO better way then?

Did I say there was no better way? Did I say that Kobe should have the ball all the time? The offense will be alot more uptempo when nash gets back so there will be ALOT of possessions where nash can go to work, all I'm saying is taking kobe out of facilitating all together is not the best thing to do...IMO
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
We were 1-4 when nash was healthy and playing with the starters, We are 5-1 with kobe being the main facilitator. Do you actually know what you are talking about?
Nash hardly was the primary ball handler in the Princeton offense before telling people they don't know what they are talking about make sure you do..


Yeah I remember when everyone was talking about how Nash was handling the ball too much and they need to run a more egalitarian system like the Princeton or something.

lol

Did I say there was no better way? Did I say that Kobe should have the ball all the time? The offense will be alot more uptempo when nash gets back so there will be ALOT of possessions where nash can go to work, all I'm saying is taking kobe out of facilitating all together is not the best thing to do...IMO

Kobe is a scorer who is smart enough to pass out of trouble, he is the one who will get lots of touches from Nash so if he feels the need to facilitate he will. However, taking Nash out of the role he is best at pretty much makes sure less players will get touches because Kobe looks to score
 

giri

Member
Yeah you wouldn't want Nash cutting into Kobe's prolific facilitation.

What Lakers-age really means is that Kobe will be unhappy if Nash handles the ball too much, even if it makes the team better.

Yeah I remember when everyone was talking about how Nash was handling the ball too much and they need to run a more egalitarian system like the Princeton or something.

God damn branduil going ham up in here. Beastin more than melo.
 

Emwitus

Member
AustraliaTE=Pkaz01;44591748]walking the ball up the court, giving it to metta, and standing in the corner makesyou the main facilitator?
Did you actually watch the game? And kobe is an above average passer. During the 3 trips to the finals he averaged double digit assists at times. Again at 38, you can't expect Nash to handle that role for a large numbers of games plus a deep run in the playoffs.
 

Pkaz01

Member
Did you actually watch the game? And kobe is an above average passer. During the 3 trips to the finals he averaged double digit assists at times. Again at 38, you can't expect Nash to handle that role for a large numbers of games plus a deep run in the playoffs.

I watched every game nash played, are we going to act like thats not what nash was reduced to in the princeton?
 

Emwitus

Member
I watched every game nash played, are we going to act like thats not what nash was reduced to in the princeton?

Are we going to act like people are not saying we should go back to the princeton offense and that nash should split his duties with kobe?
 
the starters will log those kind of huge minutes in "statement" games.

the other games theyll try to win but they wont bring out the big guns for 40 minutes to do it. thats the only way to avoid running the starters into the ground before may.
if he does actually do the Portland thing and have every starter a league leader in minutes played, then thats cool too, would be fun to see the Lakeshow go home for the summer in mid-May.
 

Pkaz01

Member
Are we going to act like people are not saying we should go back to the princeton offense and that nash should split his duties with kobe?
Who in their right mind would want to go back to princeton? and what does that have to do with me saying princeton stopped nash from being the main facilitator because he would just stand in the corner?
 

Emwitus

Member
Who in their right mind would want to go back to princeton? and what does that have to do with me saying princeton stopped nash from being the main facilitator because he would just stand in the corner?
No one is talking about the bloody princeton offense. Mike brown is fired.I don't know what you are on about. You made fun of kobe by saying that he would just pass the ball to metta in the corner, i said the argument is ball handling duties should be shared with kobe since nash is not young enough to do that for the whole season plus the playoffs.
 

Pkaz01

Member
No one is talking about the bloody princeton offense. Mike brown is fired.I don't know what you are on about. You made fun of kobe by saying that he would just pass the ball to metta in the corner, i said the argument is ball handling duties should be shared with kobe since nash is not young enough to do that for the whole season plus the playoffs.

... that post talking about nash in the princeton because the guy above made it sound like he was the main facilitator in their loses. It had nothing to do kobe.
 

Pkaz01

Member
So you agree ball handling duties should be shared between nash and kobe?

To be honest if nash is on the floor the ball should be in his hands unless kobe is on absolute fire. Only exception would be maybe in the fourth quarter if kobe needs to close the game out.

But I do agree that neither of them should be completely ball dominant and I don't think either one will be.
 

Emwitus

Member
To be honest if nash is on the floor the ball should be in his hands unless kobe is on absolute fire. Only exception would be maybe in the fourth quarter if kobe needs to close the game out.

But I do agree that neither of them should be completely ball dominant and I don't think either one will be.


No argument's here. Honestly, i'd rather nash have the ball almost every time he's out there since he can do a better job of getting both pau and dwight involved. Now if there was some way we could trade our bench for the medical stuff in phoenix.
 
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